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At 7/30/08 08:37 PM, corroder2500 wrote: chritianity is a trap. It is impossible to go through life without sinning. The government gave citisens freedom of religon because mos religions prmote good values. There is no heaven or hell. GO SIN!!!

I'm no Christian, but I heard of...

FORGIVENESS?

At 7/31/08 10:06 AM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: You can't possibly say that's true, that's just the way other religons see Satanism, which is widely regarded as "correct" just because so many people believe it, which is extremely unfair.

I never said it was correct. That's the way Christians see it. That's the way Dante wrote about it. It's also my favourite interpretation of the devil and hell.

And FYI, Satanists don't believe in evilness, if anyone actually bothered to research the religion they simply believe in sustaining all that is good in the world, worshipping the Devil (which is the same as worshipping God) and enjoying life.

Oh yeah, I'm sorry about what I said about Satanism, even though I DIDN'T MENTION SATANISM ONCE. I know about Satanism. I know they don't sacrifice virgins to the overlord. I know all this, and I never said anything to the contrary you massive tool.

Because he's a bad, bad creature.

No I think you misunderstand, that last part wasn't directed at you, I should have worded it better, I apologise.

At 7/30/08 08:35 PM, Lost-Chances wrote: Think of Hell and Heaven as two companies. Heaven has better marketing skills but Hell has better "free gifts" posted outside it's store. Once you enter one store, you can not leave.

I like this analogy.

At 7/31/08 10:17 AM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: No I think you misunderstand, that last part wasn't directed at you, I should have worded it better, I apologise.

Good.

Even if Satan could made hell more appealing it would be a mockery because it wouldn't be hell at all anymore. Hell is not for enjoyment and as stated in the posts above if the Devil had his choice he wouldn't be there either. But he is terribly lonely in his basement and he would like some company the more the better in fact.

I don't like religions cause there are too many rules to follow. I just without believing in a god

Lol

I don't think satan has control of Hell's interior.

At 7/30/08 08:33 PM, CptOwen wrote: Why doesnt he make hell more appealing? (discuss)
I mean all that torment and sorrows not gunna help is it. Get some entertainment set up, thats what i say. if its as fun as heaven the world would be sinning in no time. Anyone got any suggestions incase the big guy reads this?

The devil doesn't own hell, it's not his domain it's his (and every demon's) prison, he just rose to the top of the prison anarchy.

At 7/30/08 08:33 PM, CptOwen wrote: Why doesnt he make hell more appealing? (discuss)
I mean all that torment and sorrows not gunna help is it. Get some entertainment set up, thats what i say. if its as fun as heaven the world would be sinning in no time. Anyone got any suggestions incase the big guy reads this?

Christians don't believe that the devil is in hell. They believe that the devil and bad people will be sent there LATER as punishment.

I don't think I'm better than you as a person, I think my belief are.

At 7/31/08 06:53 AM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: That's what christians want everyone to think
(No I am not bashing anyones religion, I'm just stating my opinon...)
I just think that the Devil didn't agree with Gods methods of allowing peole into heaven, as long as they have no fun in life, and if they so much have sex before marriage, will be sent straight to the "fires of hell". Is that a bad thing?

I don't think hell is a place for people to burn for their horrible sins, although some should, I think that the Devil just sits in hell watching and loathing God for all etirenity, and anyone who joins him is welcomed.

yea..

Or, you could actually read the part of the Bible that talks about it, seeing as how that's where all of this comes from. Before you claim that it's a biased source, please note that it is the only source.

Now, the whole story goes that Lucifer thought himself to be on par with God, God doesn't take kindly to any affront to His authority, so He creates Hell as a punishment for (now) Satan and the 1/3 of the angels who joined in the rebellion.

Enter man, who God gave dominion of the earth. Satan's pissed because he originally ruled the earth. So, in a fit of sour grapes, he tempts man to sin and, lo and behold, mankind entered into Satan's rebellion and so God had to send people to hell. God makes a bargain and allows animal sacrifices instead (for some reason, although I don't quite get the leap in logic that would allow such a loophole). Then Jesus comes as a sort of one-time ever-applicable sacrifice, so everything's gravy for people who believe in that.

So, basically, the synopsis is that Satan got cocky, God got pissy, and man got tricked, so God got pissy again. That's why people go to hell, just seems kind of silly.

It's all well and good to come up with your own ideas of the afterlife, but if you're referencing stuff, it's good to get it right. It would be silly to say I think Zeus drives a Camaro and lives in Malibu. You have to be true to the source material. If you're going to make up your own take on it, at least be original.

At 7/31/08 01:28 PM, corroder2500 wrote: I don't think I'm better than you as a person, I think my belief are.

Well than, I'm sorry to tell you this, but, you and your beliefs are wrong.

I think I'll go for a walk outside now; the summer sun is calling my name. "I hear ya!", I just can't stay inside all day, I've got to get out and get some of those summer rays.

I'm an agnostic. What now, BITCHES? Just let people believe what they want, and shut the fuck up. All y'all.