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It's my belief that any person who was influenced by games to commit violence wasn't entirely sane in the first place. I mean I don't go on a killing spree in GTA and have the cops everywhere trying to kill me and say to myself "wow, getting shot at. That looks like fun." I just think that in most cases of violence, the violence was impulsive due to stimuli at that moment or just hereditary. And most parents blame video games just to blame something other than themselves because they know they're a bad parent.

There are ratings for movies, TV and video games. Parents need to look for these ratings and understand what they mean in order to keep material THEY find objectioable away from their kids. They need to be PARENTS, not their kid's best friend.

I bet Jack Thompson plays GTA4 and masturbates to the violence.

It's ridiculous. If the kid is prone to be influenced by a video game, then he's prone to be influenced by OTHER mediums as well. I'll make myself an example. I've played all sorts of video games from violent gore games to simple sim games. I've played Grand Theft Auto and the sort. I've NEVER been in a fight and I am ALWAYS peaceful and try to avoid conflict. I should make my own bullshit study with just myself as a sample and say that all people who are exposed to violent video games in their teenage years generate peaceful and pacifist behaviour.

These guys are just dramaqueens who want to stir shit up to look like they are reporting some sort of news.

look... people still kill people only "psycho's" are inspired to go kill after playing video ganes (:

Bus Simulator made me do it.

All I have to say when I see stuff like this is that people are not desensitized by violence and blood. I can say that from firsthand experience. For starters, when I fell through a window and was severely lacerated at my apartment complex, everyone who saw me was horrified. I know some of them are gamers, and yet, when confronted with actual blood, they were as pale as ghosts. These reactions have been well in keeping with times I, or people I've seen, have been injured. People are afraid of violence, not desensitized.

But with all the violent video games, why would this be?

The violence in video games is nothing like real violence. Only someone who has never seen actual blood and viscera would make such an asinine claim.

Which is entirely the point. Nobody is exposed to actual violence in their daily life. When's the last time you've had to kill and skin an animal for food? Hell, when's the last time you've even been in a fight? Let's face it, modern society is soft when it comes to violence; the majority of us go long periods of time without seeing so much as a moderate cut.

At 7/31/08 04:46 PM, Gunter45 wrote: The violence in video games is nothing like real violence. Only someone who has never seen actual blood and viscera would make such an asinine claim.

Which is entirely the point. Nobody is exposed to actual violence in their daily life. When's the last time you've had to kill and skin an animal for food? Hell, when's the last time you've even been in a fight? Let's face it, modern society is soft when it comes to violence; the majority of us go long periods of time without seeing so much as a moderate cut.

Totally agreed. Anyone who claims "THOSE KIDS KILLED PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY PLAED VIDEO GAEMS OMG ZOMG BAN GAMES" need to get a grip.
I play games all the time; been a gamer for more than 10 years, yet *GASP* I haven't murdered everyone I know. People who kill other people (Bar the military and police) are generally "missing a few gears" up there.

GTA IV has been banned in Thailand after a kid caught a cab, then shot the driver.

The police say that it's the game's fault, as they did thorough checks and he doesn't show any mental problems. That the kid said he "wanted to find out if it was as easy in real life to rob a taxi as it was in the game" implies that he's probably not all there, actuellment.

Fox news dosnt understand their own hypocracy. They say they stand for America and use their freesom of speech to full extent but then when it comes to a topic they do not really undersatnd or just plain dosent like they flip and say that we cant do it because it is "corrupting" the youth of this country. well i say no more, do not believe the lies of fox news

every time you watch a page on newground some black/asian kid in canada or the usa kills a school

At 8/6/08 11:32 AM, BennyBaller wrote: every time you watch a page on newground some black/asian kid in canada or the usa kills a school

Luckily, nobody in it.

Anyway, update on GTA Thailand - it turns out the kid didn't even have the game. I'd love to hear Jackie Boy Thompson try and spin it so not owning or playing GTA IV makes you a potential murderer...

At 8/9/08 01:58 PM, D2Kvirus wrote:

At 8/6/08 11:32 AM, BennyBaller wrote: every time you watch a page on newground some black/asian kid in canada or the usa kills a school

Luckily, nobody in it.

Anyway, update on GTA Thailand - it turns out the kid didn't even have the game. I'd love to hear Jackie Boy Thompson try and spin it so not owning or playing GTA IV makes you a potential murderer...

"Don't you know that the GTAIV's psychic vibes travel in every direction forever until someone is infused with them? He didn't need to have the game, the energy from it poisoned his mind."

- Jack Thompson.

Jack Thompson - filling the void left when Bob Dornan retired from politics.

At 7/25/08 07:37 PM, ImaSmartass2 wrote: Thoughts, Opinions, and anything else here!

99% of the games I play are violent. Think: True Crime, Rainbow Six, Medal of Honor, Spartan: Total Warrior, etc. I'm not as bothered by real-life gore (such as blood and guts hanging out of a dead guy) as other people are. However, I've been playing such games for a long time, and I have yet to get into a fight. People don't provoke me, and I'm not violent at all unless absolutely necessary.

Seriously, don't have 50 year old "experts" judge the effects of video games on children. Have children judge the effects of videos games on children. Surely they know how video games affect their view of life much better than some rich, middle-aged white guy with greasy hair.

"Don't you know that the GTAIV's psychic vibes travel in every direction forever until someone is infused with them? He didn't need to have the game, the energy from it poisoned his mind."

- Jack Thompson.

Isn't that a meme?

It the parents fault obviously, if the parent realizes that their child are playing such games they are condoning their actions by not talking to the child about it. If they were to just tell the child that such things happening in the video game is wrong the child will have have the ability to understand that "Oh maybe I shouldn't steal this candy" and put it back. It's not the video games fault, it's the parents lack of parenting and their ignorance.

A several year long study on violence in American teens has actually proven that playing violent video games doesn't affect one's tendency to commit violent crimes, in fact it may even prevent it to a certain degree. This study's results were put into a book called Grand Theft Childhood if anyone is interested. I find these authors very credible myself, and it's almost a slap in the face to people who think violence is caused by video games since this study was funded by the US Department of Justice with over $1.5 million. XD

Link to an interview with the authors.

So every time we hear people say that violent video games are corrupting our youth, we can prove them wrong.

At 8/9/08 03:24 PM, yourefat wrote:

"Don't you know that the GTAIV's psychic vibes travel in every direction forever until someone is infused with them? He didn't need to have the game, the energy from it poisoned his mind."

- Jack Thompson.

Isn't that a meme?

I honestly have no idea, I just made up some quote from Jack Thompson I thought was funny, lol.

I charge FOX News with corrupting America's youth my encourging lieing and hypocracy by claiming to be fair and balanced while only showing one side!
Seriously, though, FOX only showed the issue from the perspective of the anti-videogame side. A few years ago when I was 13-14, my Mother would tell me that they were making me violent and emotional. She said that I was becoming desensationalized with violence. I said:
"So your saying that a inanimate object is corrupting me, and that me, killing pixels is the same as killing someone in real life? Your the one who can't tell the difference between reality and a video game, why am I the one with the 'problem'?"

Well my opinion on this subject is that sure really violent games are not good for five year olds. But blaming them is like blaming music. Some kids are criminals from the start and not some game is going to change that. If parents are so scared about their children why don't they just get there asses up and check a game before buying. Because if they do that then no one would have to go through all of this and in the end if something happens where the kid becomes a criminal or murderer blame the parents not other things.

dose anyone know what this means?

well im 12 ive watched saw played m games and yet i still hate real violince so this whole games are a bad influence isnt true for me
also this what i think is true about infleences

At 8/10/08 05:56 AM, thesearetasty wrote: well im 12 ive watched saw played m games and yet i still hate real violince so this whole games are a bad influence isnt true for me
also this what i think is true about infleences

You mean influences? And while you may not necessarily be effected by things like that, there are supposedly people who are, but again, see the post I made further up the page. It's already been proven that video games =/= more violence in real life.

At 7/28/08 05:23 PM, atation wrote: Hell, it was music in the sixties, TV in the seventies, movies in the eighties and nineties and now it's video games. Welcome to the new millenium.

don't forget, it was comic books back in the fifties. They said that the fact that super heroes had to fight crime and the police couldn't do it alone, it made the kids think they could become criminals and get away with it.

just plain bullshit.

I think everyone here can generally agree that violent video games DO NOT cause violent behavior, but rather that it's the one who is subject to the violence that has the power to do or not do it. In the end, it's pure will power that determines if you're going to do something bad, because you watched or played something that is ill natured. The other thing we can agree on is that Fox News is full of hypocratic buttheads.

Personally, I don't mind if people THINK about killing someone else, but don't actually do it. However, when the act is done... when someone has done something that denies someone else their right to live, that is unjust, no matter WHY or HOW it happened. They killed someone, and for the rest of their life, that will stand as a fact, and nothing one does changes that fact. When one spills another's blood on their hands, the smell never goes away, no matter how many times it is washed.

Sometimes one may not have a choice; self-defense comes by instinct. But... No matter how much I think about it, even if one is the victim, they were still involved. Things like this are about making choices. Obviously, people who commit the crime of denying others their right to life... people who choose whether or not someone lives or dies, whether that would be stranger in the middle of the street or oneself, make the wrong choice.

Now... if the person wants to die... that's different. However, we can save that for another time.

The video games are not making them fat, it's that they are sitting down on their fat ass all day that is making them fat. And video games are fantasy, and people should remember that.

I have to say, of all the video games that I've ever played, Mario Party makes me the angriest. Halo, sure its violent, but unless I'm going out into space to fight aliens its not really going to effect how I act in daily life. But Mario Party, when you get screwed over, the guy who did it is sitting next to you. So people need to stop focusing on violent video games and focus on violent children. Its a chicken egg situation. Any child with a predisposition to violence is likely to play violent video games because that way they can use up their anger in a safe environment. When you take away video games these children have no way to dispense their anger. Its sort of like pedophile and child porn: if you let them look at lolicon or whatever they can get their rocks off without hurting anybody, but when you take that away thats where kids start to get hurt. Thats what I have to say about that.

Oh Newgrounds, you never cease to be useless,

Stimulate some debate, stop agreeing on everything you bastards, why can't there be one topic where everyone doesn't compromise, damn all threads where people compromise like on Religion, presidential canidates, evolution, taxes, 9/11, Russia, Iraq war, Israel, China, Communism, Socialism, Capitalism, Evironmental issuses, Steven Colbert/John Stewart, and the Media.

At 8/16/08 01:40 AM, ImaSmartass2 wrote: Stimulate some debate, stop agreeing on everything you bastards, why can't there be one topic where everyone doesn't compromise, damn all threads where people compromise like on Religion, presidential canidates, evolution, taxes, 9/11, Russia, Iraq war, Israel, China, Communism, Socialism, Capitalism, Evironmental issuses, Steven Colbert/John Stewart, and the Media.

sarcasm much?

This topic is pretty clear though. video games are violent mmkay but they dont make us violent mmmkay