Pragmatic Vs. Hypocrite
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One who is bad for failing to pratice what he preaches, and one with the nature to change their mind on an issue when the facts support the other side.
Can you draw a line between them?
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At 7/18/08 10:13 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: One who is bad for failing to pratice what he preaches, and one with the nature to change their mind on an issue when the facts support the other side.
Can you draw a line between them?
Very easily: a hypocrite continues to say one thing while doing another whereas the pragmatist, while changing opinion when necessary, does not state to the contrary.
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At 7/18/08 10:13 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: One who is bad for failing to pratice what he preaches, and one with the nature to change their mind on an issue when the facts support the other side.
Can you draw a line between them?
Al Gore vs. ???
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Sure a hypocrite says one thing and does another. The pragmatist does what works and doesn't have any qualms about supporting what works. Well that was a tough one; back to curing cancer, or maybe male pattern baldness and erectile dysfunction -which pays more?
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At 7/19/08 05:25 AM, dySWN wrote:
Al Gore vs. ???
any politician
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Does it have to be either one or the other?
Personally, I think the line gets drawn when the scale of your rhetoric is out of proportion to the actual situation.
Tis better to sit in silence and be presumed a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
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At 7/22/08 03:12 AM, GunnerX86 wrote: It's better if you are a pragmatic.
Thanks, now I know. Couldn't have figured that out myself.
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At least the hypocrite comes to a conclusion by oneself instead of blindly following the biggest liar.
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At 7/22/08 01:03 PM, CIX wrote: At least the hypocrite comes to a conclusion by oneself instead of blindly following the biggest liar.
Pragmatics don't follow blindly. They change, when needed, if they see something more truer before, or eliminate it when it's been proven false. There's an honesty to it that hypocrites don't change.
Hypocrites insist on a certain belief, yet contradicts themselves at the same time-- and there is a total lack of honesty with them.
It's better to be an honest person and admit that you're changed in how you think, then to be a dishonest hypocrite who can't admit that they've changed how they think (or, never believed in at all for that matter.)
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I'm glad to know now that a distiction can indeed be made between one who contradicts himself and one who only appears to contradict himself but in fact sides with the facts.
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At 7/23/08 12:22 AM, MultiCanimefan wrote: I'm glad to know now that a distiction can indeed be made between one who contradicts himself and one who only appears to contradict himself but in fact sides with the facts.
You're completely missing the distinction. A hypocrite will continue to talk one way while doing another and a pragmatist will say that he has changed his mind based on the facts and now supports something else.
There's a world of difference.
The real comparison that needs to be made is between someone who is pragmatic and someone who is spineless. Where do you feel the line is drawn?
Think you're pretty clever...
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At 7/23/08 09:31 AM, Gunter45 wrote:At 7/23/08 12:22 AM, MultiCanimefan wrote: I'm glad to know now that a distiction can indeed be made between one who contradicts himself and one who only appears to contradict himself but in fact sides with the facts.You're completely missing the distinction. A hypocrite will continue to talk one way while doing another and a pragmatist will say that he has changed his mind based on the facts and now supports something else.
There's a world of difference.
The real comparison that needs to be made is between someone who is pragmatic and someone who is spineless. Where do you feel the line is drawn?
How exactly did I miss the distinction? Did I not say myself that a pragmatist is one who sides with and supports the facts? I know the distinction, I just didn't make it clear; my comment wasn't exactly worded that well.
