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If terrorism was really a threat to the US, don't you think we would have had another attack since 9/11? It wouldn't even have to be more airplane attacks. It could be bombs blowing up buses, houses, trains, but no - it hasn't happened. That shows that there is ABSOLUTELY no homegrown terrorist threat to the US. If you have any common knowledge, you know that you can find most of the ingredients to make a bomb in your local Walmart (Fox has even done reports on it). There are NO terrorists in the US (except for the government, of course).

And then also, look at all the legislation that has been justified in the name of this one, lone 9/11 attack: The Patriot Act, Guantanamo Bay, the FISA warantless wiretapping act, stupid security measures at the airports, the Afghanistan war, the Iraq war, soon to be the Iran and Syria wars. All of this justified in the name of one isolated attack. Just thinking about it in a common sense approach only leaves one conclusion: COMPLETE inside job.

Now, is there a terrorist threat to Middle Eastern countries - or should I say, country? Yes. Israel, America's orgy partner, is absolutely at threat from all kinds of suicide bombers, radical Muslim extremists. There is no doubt about it. But AMERICA has absolutely no direct terrorist threat, yet the authorities continually try to sell us this lie.

So you don't even need to read the PNAC: Rebuilding America's Defences document, or the Operation Northwoods plan, or the staged Gulf of Tonkin Incident, or the UN population reduction agenda. It's all there if you just use a bit of critical thinking and common sense. 9/11 was an inside job.


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Maybe the bear patrol's just doing a good job keeping the bears away.

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The US isnt the only one doing this the UK governemnt has also gone crazy trying to over-protect the poeple. Their has been the attack in London and since then a few attempted attacks. So its not the case of an isolated incident as you put it.

But as someone pointed out. Its happened and the government wont go back on their word. They wont admit they were wrong. So my advice to you would be. Stop bitching about it on the internet and start attending protest marches.

The Anarchist movement is gaining more support in the UK last time I checked. Havnt seen any of them in a while though.

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At 7/18/08 09:01 AM, Elfer wrote: Maybe the bear patrol's just doing a good job keeping the bears away.

I was going to ask if you were honestly serious, but that can't possibly be.

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Also, another fun fact: 9/11 was the first instance of international terrorism in US history.

So, what's that you say? We've been doing a good job before we had to give our rights? The terrorists won't win if we don't let the government detain us indefinitely? Well gee, I guess I pissed away my rights for nothing.

The fact of the matter is, everyone knows we had the intelligence to stop 9/11. It's not a matter of how much intelligence we have if we don't have the analysts who can connect it all. There was no conspiracy behind why we didn't act on that intelligence, we just couldn't put it together until it was too late. So, how is it that getting even MORE intelligence is going to help us? We're inundating an already overworked group of analysts. We're hiring more people to gather intelligence and allowing them to get it from more places, but the increase in analysts has been relatively minuscule.

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its becuase every year the president does a magic JUU-JUU dance to ward off the evil spirits that attract terrorism.

thats what that africa shit was.

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At 7/18/08 09:35 AM, bcdemon wrote:
At 7/18/08 09:01 AM, Elfer wrote: Maybe the bear patrol's just doing a good job keeping the bears away.
I was going to ask if you were honestly serious, but that can't possibly be.

You do realize that there have been attempted attacks since 9/11, right?


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You know the U.S. has been successful in preventing terrorist attacks, right?

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At 7/18/08 09:35 AM, bcdemon wrote:
At 7/18/08 09:01 AM, Elfer wrote: Maybe the bear patrol's just doing a good job keeping the bears away.
I was going to ask if you were honestly serious, but that can't possibly be.

Only to a certain extent. Terrorist attacks have been prevented both before and after 9/11.

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At 7/18/08 09:22 AM, Jon-86 wrote: The US isnt the only one doing this the UK governemnt has also gone crazy trying to over-protect the poeple. Their has been the attack in London and since then a few attempted attacks. So its not the case of an isolated incident as you put it.

But as someone pointed out. Its happened and the government wont go back on their word. They wont admit they were wrong. So my advice to you would be. Stop bitching about it on the internet and start attending protest marches.

The Anarchist movement is gaining more support in the UK last time I checked. Havnt seen any of them in a while though.

Hm, the irony of getting organized for an anarchist movement is hilarious. But sadly, the fact that there has not been a major attack shows that we have been-GASP!- successful at keeping the terrorists away.
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At 7/18/08 10:36 AM, ThePretenders wrote: You know the U.S. has been successful in preventing terrorist attacks, right?

except in this case


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The reason we have not suffered any new attacks on American soil is because we have won our war in Iraq and are winning it in Afghanistan. As long as we keep the sandmonkeys on the defensive we do not have to worry about them devoting the resources necessary to launch another attack. America owes its current safety to President Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair. However, if Obama moves in and pulls all the troops home...well we will have something new to greive over.

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At 7/18/08 09:01 AM, Elfer wrote: Maybe the bear patrol's just doing a good job keeping the bears away.

hardly...
The most reasonable answer:

It takes several years of planning to create a massive attack. If we were to have an attack, it would be done well after a huge period of rest.

It only seems that the bear patrol is doing ther job of keeping the bears away...
Their only way to know they're effective?

If they come said, "This group was about to do this, and here is the proof, and here is how likely it was going to happen."

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At 7/18/08 12:06 PM, fli wrote:
At 7/18/08 09:01 AM, Elfer wrote: Maybe the bear patrol's just doing a good job keeping the bears away.
hardly...
The most reasonable answer:

It takes several years of planning to create a massive attack. If we were to have an attack, it would be done well after a huge period of rest.

It only seems that the bear patrol is doing ther job of keeping the bears away...
Their only way to know they're effective?

If they come said, "This group was about to do this, and here is the proof, and here is how likely it was going to happen."

NO, because it doesn't have to be a massive attack. It could be something really small, like a small attack on a bus or a train, but no. Don't you get it: America is full of fat consumerist slobs, even the immigrants. NO ONE wants to attack America.

And what about America's "terrorist watch list", with over 1 million people on it currently? If there are 1 million potential homegrown terrorists in the United States, then again, why has there been absolutely no attack in 7 years?


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At 7/18/08 01:16 PM, Mr-Money wrote: NO, because it doesn't have to be a massive attack.

No, it has to be a big attack because that's what the original poster said on the lines of "Why don't we have another 9-11? Because our government has done its job."

It could be something really small, like a small attack on a bus or a train, but no. Don't you get it: America is full of fat consumerist slobs, even the immigrants. NO ONE wants to attack America.

but we had small attacks... but we classify them as other things.
School threats ala Columbine style are an example of this.


And what about America's "terrorist watch list", with over 1 million people on it currently? If there are 1 million potential homegrown terrorists in the United States, then again, why has there been absolutely no attack in 7 years?

If I remember, it took the original planners of the 9-11 attacks nearly a decade to create and execute.
HOW SOON do you believe they can hatch something on a grand scale as this?

The only way to know if our government has been effective is to actually have the evidence of foiled attack plans... otherwise, it's like this: Lack of evidence, isn't evidence at all.

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Well, I'm sure it would be idiotic to let people know we've spoiled attacks before, as that could compromise agents working for us. The CIA has not just been lounging around for the past seven years. And I disagree with the statement that"Lack of evidence is no evidence at all", as you must remember we have killed tons of Al Queda leaders, so they've had to been very low profile. Ergo, it is highly likely that because we killed a ton of leaders, they have not been able to plan many attacks, as they are on the defense atm.


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At 7/18/08 11:49 AM, yinyangman wrote:
At 7/18/08 10:36 AM, ThePretenders wrote: You know the U.S. has been successful in preventing terrorist attacks, right?
except in this case

I meant after 9/11, the U.S. has been succesful in preventinf terrorist acts.

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because its all one giant conspiracy in order for the Jews to propagate their world control. happy now Mr-Money?

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At 7/18/08 01:16 PM, Mr-Money wrote: NO ONE wants to attack America.

I guess all those people shouting "Death to America" are just kidding.

Think you're pretty clever...

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You guys are lucky I'm not a terrorist.


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I don't think the government caused 9/11 but I do agree with everything else the OP has said.

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There have been plenty of attacks. They just occur in the Middle East. Bin Laden and the other Islamic insurgents wnat to break the military strength of the United States like they did the USSR. If they succeed, the US will no longer be ABLE to occupy Muslim countries, support Israel or apostate regimes or carry out what Islamists see as a war on Islam.

People need to realize that Islamists are not insane terrorists bent on world domination or the destruction of the Western Wrold, and they do not hate America because we are free. They are insurgents fighting against an imperial power (the US is an imperial power, but I am not using that term to criticize the US) for a few very specific goals.

If you want to understand Islamists, you should read Imperial Hubris by Michael Scheuer. Scheuer is the former head of the CIA's Bin Laden unit and has spent over twenty years working in the intelligence community, focusing on Islamists. He is an expert on the subject. The book is very enlightening. I cannot recommend it highly enough.


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I think the government stirs up trouble abroad (Iraq) and then acts all heroic that they're killing terrorists in Iraq.


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I take it you didn't hear about the attempted attack a few years back, one of the targets was the Sears Tower in Chicago, if I remember right that was planed by home grown terrorist

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I would also imagine that any terrorist sleeper cells in the US are not going to compromise themselves for the sake of a minor attack. It isn't easy for terrorists to slip into America and still be connected enough with the organization to carry out another 9/11.


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At 7/18/08 11:55 AM, studmuffin7 wrote: The reason we have not suffered any new attacks on American soil is because we have won our war in Iraq and are winning it in Afghanistan. As long as we keep the sandmonkeys on the defensive we do not have to worry about them devoting the resources necessary to launch another attack.

List of resources required for a terrorist attack:
- dudes
- hardware store

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Ooo! Ooo! My turn, my turn! It's because we have soldiers fighting in Iraq, dummy-head! You see; The only real reason we have soldiers there in the first place wasn't because of the children there are starving or women are being raped-- It's because we don't want them to attack us, you silly gooses! Honestly, it started out as having operatives over there, to figure out what the terrorists were doing and then stopping them-- Which sometimes included the armed forces. Although, that's not why they're there-- They are there because it's a lot easier for the operatives to do there job when you have air, infantry and armour support. Maybe I'm wrong. . .But hey. If that doesn't answer your question, then I'll throw it simple; Soldiers stop the terrorists from attacking. But. . .I could definately be wrong. But can't we all at these types of times?

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At 7/18/08 09:39 PM, SourPuddle wrote: Maybe I'm wrong. . .But hey. If that doesn't answer your question, then I'll throw it simple; Soldiers stop the terrorists from attacking.

After reading a few, I changed my mind. Nonetheless, there were attacks after 911, I might have a point here. . .

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