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[blznavy]

I spent a good amount of time studying up on the thing i hated the most,Communism. To me communism is the worst evil in the world,the government owns everything,noone gets enough food and ext. But after takeing the time to learn about it i understand it better now( im not a Communist I still love capatilism) But at least im not someone who will dimiss the subject completely and yell AMERICA! I can at least give reasons besides the basics. But anyway the real reason i made this topic was because well I watched a 5 part movie that tried to explain his point of view on Capatalism.

heres the links
part 1
part 2
part 3
part 4
part 5

But i couldnt help but notice the comments left my suporters of Communism and well i cant help but think of them as almost identicaly to a blind following Patriot who will yell America at the face of the topic of Communism. So it kind of shocked me that people who want to unite and destroy capatalism arent any better then the blind followers. So after watching the movies(if you watched them at all) do you think America is really like that? Do you think that America is runned by someone who owns all the toys and keeps everyone at check and prevents us from rebeling against the government? And instead have us attack eachother? Or unite us there war? But heres another point if there is someone trying to keep us at bay by brain washing us then why ARE we aloowed to think outside the box? why can we impeach our president? Our founding fathers didnt want our leaders to gain to much power and thats why we have sertain laws and amendments. You need alot of power to be able to keep everyone at bay like that. Well what does everyone think about these set of movies?

[ManlyMan97]

Wise words! All people who think Communisim works, go to Communist country and become a citizen. It'll be the oppisite of working.

[SolInvictus]

i wouldn't call it the worst evil, but it is an unfeasible idea that people cling to despite the fact it cannot be implemented.

[C-Hawk]

In case anyone at all wants an objective point of view, i'm from a free country. My opinion, communism is largely superior to capitalism. But that's just hoping maybe one person is looking for someone else's opinion.

[CousinIt]

Democratic Socialism is the best way to go.

[SmilezRoyale]

A system where the government is elected to manage everything fosters complete apathy.

There was a time when even midwestern farmers were economically literate; interest rates effected them DIRRECTLY and they KNEW it. That's what formed the populist party; since the developement of the federal reserve, public understanding of the meaning behind m-1 and interest rates are severely limited. Democracy is not compatible with a system that promotes dependence and market illiteracy.

[GunnerX86]

At 7/20/08 11:10 AM, CousinIt wrote: Democratic Socialism is the best way to go.

You realize that Democratic Socialism is semi-Communism.

[freddorfman]

zem%u0159ít kapitalista
you shame your working brethren you with your greed and war you are evil
you look only towards bettering yourself through materilsm and greed

[GunnerX86]

At 7/22/08 03:56 AM, freddorfman wrote: zem%u0159ít kapitalista
you shame your working brethren you with your greed and war you are evil
you look only towards bettering yourself through materilsm and greed

Is this guy talking to me?If he is well then I'll give him my explanation of what I said:
Democratic Socialism is semi-Communism because communist leaders use Socialism to get more power and to look like the good guy to there people.This is not true about everyone that uses Socialism. They use Democratic Socialism.Thus Democratic Socialism is semi-Communism.I'm not saying Democratic Socialism is Communism, I'm saying that it's semi-Communism.

[dySWN]

At 7/22/08 03:56 AM, freddorfman wrote: you look only towards bettering yourself through materilsm and greed

While we're busy looking out for ourselves, you might do well to take a look in a history book and take note of the fact that communism is, by and large, a colossal failure.

[CIX]

At 7/22/08 03:56 AM, freddorfman wrote: zem%u0159ít kapitalista
you shame your working brethren you with your greed and war you are evil
you look only towards bettering yourself through materilsm and greed

Stop paying your $80 high speed Internet connection you greedy commie. Stop mooching off of your parents you greedy monster.

[animehater]

At 7/20/08 11:10 AM, CousinIt wrote: Democratic Socialism is the best way to go.

If you wanna take an early retirement doing nothing and getting money for it.

[AreYouSure]

Communism is the forceful annexation of personal human freedom in a futile attempt to squash the exercise of nature's most universal principle of life: to thrive. Communism creates conflict with the natural order of the world . . . which is not a completely negative thing when balanced with an opposing fierce drive for individuality and personal freedom. Freedom to have property unsubjected to "the greater good".

It's a system, and like any system communism needs challenges to grow and evolve. As a member of a system which allows authority to be distributed via keystone texts, I can see the benefits of multiple mass-human control/belief systems.

The pitfall lies in the conflict between free market and controlled market systems. Who decides the prices of trade when the stakes are fundamentally different? In communism, the good of the people as a whole is supposed to be the apex of decision making processes - while in capitalism the urge to fulfill personal, individual desires trumps the 'good of the whole' most of the time. Because humans hold a shaky dominion over our jar called Earth, we are afforded the opportunity to shape it as we will, to our own peril or benefit.

In communism, like an ant colony, each ant has a role to fulfill and they're expected to fulfill that role or face certain doom. The main problem is that an ant colony cannot survive in a glass jar forever. Humans acting as such will only bring inevitable doom; we've conquered our glass jar and are just recently realizing it.

That's the only reason capitalism and free market systems exist. The answer isn't to own the jar, but to forge and mold the jar into something worth living in.

There is a balance, and therein lies the answer.

Who sets the rules? Who enforces them? Nature is a capitalist pig, but she has rules of her own that she only shares through tough lessons. She is the example we should all follow, if such a singular proposition actually exists.

[pizza4ever]

i stopped reading at communism

[Calvinand]

Communism never works, never has never will. People are not designed to live like that. We just don't decide that the stuff we produce and earn belongs to everyone as much as it does us, it's just illogical. In the real world the government has to force people to share and after awhile you get a stalin who uses the system for his own ends. Democracy works, equal rights, not equal everything

[drDAK]

At 7/26/08 01:10 PM, Calvinand wrote: Communism never works, never has never will. People are not designed to live like that.

People are also not designed to pilot planes, drive cars, and stare at computer screens.

[D2Kvirus]

At 7/18/08 04:22 PM, ManlyMan97 wrote: Wise words! All people who think Communisim works, go to Communist country and become a citizen. It'll be the oppisite of working.

There's plenty of countries where Democracy doesn't work, y'know. Let's start with the ones to have it forced on them in the past five years, shall we?

[zoolrule]

Wow i believe you

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