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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-20 22:28:34 Reply

So, does anyone have a mic and steam? I'll chat with you.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-20 22:37:40 Reply

At 8/20/08 10:28 PM, kenshi2 wrote: So, does anyone have a mic and steam? I'll chat with you.

I have a mic and steam, but I hardly ever use steam, so I don't really know how to use it.

I have vent.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-20 22:38:18 Reply

At 8/20/08 10:28 PM, O0-0O-O0-0O wrote:
At 8/20/08 10:23 PM, reviewer-general wrote: Boo, social stigma!

When will society finally grow up?
When people grow a pair and stop being immature pricks.

In other words, not soon.

Stupid fucking pricks. They think they're just "goofing around", but they are really destroying lives. And it's not just for people who are gay or bi or whatever. Anyone who is different or unique or GOOD in any way is systematically destroyed.

C'est sickening. >:(

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 00:55:42 Reply

To spare you all the pain of going to general to see the thread, I'll just post this here. However, here it is if anyone wants to see it.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbur ghtrib/news/s_581644.html

Opinions?


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 01:00:11 Reply

At 8/21/08 12:55 AM, O0-0O-O0-0O wrote: To spare you all the pain of going to general to see the thread, I'll just post this here. However, here it is if anyone wants to see it.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbur ghtrib/news/s_581644.html

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hmm weird

it depends what the context of the stories was

if they were saying how bad child abuse is, then there's nothing wrong with it

if they were promoting it though then i guess i'm not suprised that she got punished


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 01:03:43 Reply

At 8/21/08 01:00 AM, Dezimo wrote: if they were saying how bad child abuse is, then there's nothing wrong with it

if they were promoting it though then i guess i'm not suprised that she got punished

It wasn't either.

It was just an erotic story.

A lot of people, like myself, write stories about things they don't actually support in reality, like rape.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 01:08:21 Reply

At 8/21/08 01:03 AM, O0-0O-O0-0O wrote:
At 8/21/08 01:00 AM, Dezimo wrote: if they were saying how bad child abuse is, then there's nothing wrong with it

if they were promoting it though then i guess i'm not suprised that she got punished
It wasn't either.

It was just an erotic story.

A lot of people, like myself, write stories about things they don't actually support in reality, like rape.

well an erotic story would sort of come under promoting it

also i can't understand why someone would write erotic stories about child rape if they aren't interested in it themselves

i'd sort of understand stories about rape, but i think child rape is a bit far


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 01:13:18 Reply

At 8/21/08 01:08 AM, Dezimo wrote: well an erotic story would sort of come under promoting it

Not really. I don't promote rape, yet I still write erotic stories about it.

also i can't understand why someone would write erotic stories about child rape if they aren't interested in it themselves

It's a fetish, like anything else. I have several friends who have admitted to being pedophiles, but they'd never harm a child. It's not a crime to be aroused by something because as long as you don't act on your desires, the most harm you can do is make someone offended.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 01:24:49 Reply

At 8/21/08 01:13 AM, O0-0O-O0-0O wrote: It's a fetish, like anything else. I have several friends who have admitted to being pedophiles, but they'd never harm a child. It's not a crime to be aroused by something because as long as you don't act on your desires, the most harm you can do is make someone offended.

hmm fair enough then :P

i guess as long as it's entirely fictional then it doesn't matter

also, any words on the ban of drawn child porn in england?
i thought it was a bit stupid at first, but i considered that it could be linked to real children being harmed, so i wasn't sure at the time
of course, not everyone draws it though, you could just of had it off some website like 4chan


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 01:31:31 Reply

At 8/21/08 01:24 AM, Dezimo wrote: also, any words on the ban of drawn child porn in england?
i thought it was a bit stupid at first, but i considered that it could be linked to real children being harmed, so i wasn't sure at the time
of course, not everyone draws it though, you could just of had it off some website like 4chan

I think I remember something about that, though I don't know too much about it. I think it was connected to that group of laws under the 134 whatever thing that I posted about here, though I haven't heard any new buzz about any of it.

I don't feel as strongly about cartoon child porn as do about the erotic stories and the violent pictures. It's probably because it just doesn't pertain to me in way, but I don't know. I suppose I'm for its legalization seeing as it is just drawings and no one gets hurt.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 04:57:47 Reply

I'm honestly not concerned on any level about anything but real child molestation. Seriously, as long as no one is getting raped or violated in the real world, I don't see it as truly harmful. Hell, half of anime (I don't mean just pervert stuff, but even mainstream) has moments of sexual activity of minors all over the place. In terms of text, I've detailed a thing or two online about sexual situations, and I was a minor for them. If you look into any topic of masturbation or sexual activity online, you're going to get stories, and chances are incredibly high that they're going to involve minors, and even higher that those aren't just stories, but real. A real story about being raped when you were younger is still a story. Making up a story about how you were raped is yet another story. Narrating a rape/molestation scene of a child or minor is still just a story, real or not (and in this case, it wasn't, right?). All it takes is a minute of thought and you yourself can think of some terrible things. Typing it out is just a way to recall those thoughts and allow others (or yourself) to read over them. and endure them freshly. Does thinking about it and actualizing it in your mind count, too? It shouldn't. Even art depicting it is an expression. If a people drew pictures of themselves as a minor in a sexual situation, does that count as simulated child pornography? Because, all in all, they're simply different means of the same idea - conveyance of thought. And if it were them, shouldn't they have a say in what it's used for? Honestly, if someone gets off looking at boots, should they be banned from a boot store? They're allowed to buy their boots and house a collection. But what about the person who just collects boots. Should he not be allowed to collect boots because the last guy used them improperly? And even that first man is judged by his actions because a prior man was caught ripping the boots and getting off on them. I don't think everyone has the same agenda, regardless of how normal the world wishes we were. Besides, what's illegal now is only a testament to what's acceptable in this day and age. This is the Age of Indecency, after all.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 12:16:00 Reply

Personally, I find it distasteful, but as long as there was never any intent to act on such things (which it seems there wasn't), then I don't see how the government can do anything about it. It's HER website, she can do what she wants.

I've seen FAR FAR worse things elsewhere on the internet that I am sure was never prosecuted.

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 14:07:19 Reply

At 8/21/08 12:55 AM, O0-0O-O0-0O wrote: Opinions?

Hmm.

I think her website should have been taken down, but I don't think she should have been arrested.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 14:19:11 Reply

Hmm. I've been off for a while, whaddya guys discussing right now?
Child Hentai?


I am gay.

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 14:26:11 Reply

At 8/21/08 02:19 PM, kenshi2 wrote: Hmm. I've been off for a while, whaddya guys discussing right now?
Child Hentai?

No, the next best thing. Literature... about Child Rape.


My PSN ID is xscoot. Crazy, huh?

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 14:39:45 Reply

At 8/21/08 02:26 PM, xscoot wrote:
At 8/21/08 02:19 PM, kenshi2 wrote: Hmm. I've been off for a while, whaddya guys discussing right now?
Child Hentai?
No, the next best thing. Literature... about Child Rape.

Hm, that's fine, as long as no child is Actually violated and the such, it's fine.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 15:04:51 Reply

At 8/21/08 12:55 AM, O0-0O-O0-0O wrote: To spare you all the pain of going to general to see the thread, I'll just post this here. However, here it is if anyone wants to see it.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbur ghtrib/news/s_581644.html

Opinions?

House arrest is a bit severe for what happened. She wasn't displaying it as pornographic material but rather text material of how bad child abuse cases really are. I'm also surprised that she got into legal trouble to do with child-pornography through text. To be honest, it sounds like a clamping down on what you can say and write about and what you can not write about which is depressing. Partly because I enjoy obscure stories a lot more than the boring romantic/action/war stories.

I can only hope there isn't a repeat of this law-suit.

At 8/20/08 10:28 PM, kenshi2 wrote: So, does anyone have a mic and steam? I'll chat with you.

Got mic, got webcam. If by Steam you mean the gaming thing then yeah I do have it. Otherwise, nope.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 15:12:51 Reply

At 8/20/08 10:28 PM, kenshi2 wrote: So, does anyone have a mic and steam? I'll chat with you.

i have steam, username's dezimo is you want to add me


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 15:34:51 Reply

At 8/21/08 03:12 PM, Dezimo wrote:
At 8/20/08 10:28 PM, kenshi2 wrote: So, does anyone have a mic and steam? I'll chat with you.
i have steam, username's dezimo is you want to add me

I've added you..


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 15:43:00 Reply

At 7/17/08 06:50 PM, xscoot wrote: I'm bi. The thing is, I'm so picky about guys, I might as well be straight. Still, I have some man crushes, but I will not tell who.

hey man u rock purrrr


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 15:45:01 Reply

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 15:58:12 Reply

Hm, I think I may be slowly turning gay, for some reason, I've STARTED losing interest in females. It doesn't bother me, I just dont know how that started.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 16:52:04 Reply

I'm bi, can I joinz? :3

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 17:04:48 Reply

At 8/21/08 04:52 PM, Sun-and-Moon wrote: I'm bi, can I joinz? :3

Sure.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 17:10:27 Reply

At 8/21/08 05:04 PM, O0-0O-O0-0O wrote:
At 8/21/08 04:52 PM, Sun-and-Moon wrote: I'm bi, can I joinz? :3
Sure.

^_^ I havent come out yet though haha....but I've decided recently that I'm bi

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 17:18:28 Reply

At 8/21/08 05:10 PM, Sun-and-Moon wrote:
At 8/21/08 05:04 PM, O0-0O-O0-0O wrote:
At 8/21/08 04:52 PM, Sun-and-Moon wrote: I'm bi, can I joinz? :3
Sure.
^_^ I havent come out yet though haha....but I've decided recently that I'm bi

welcome :)

i only came out about 3 months ago :P
it sucked, everyone was ok with it, but i'd managed to make it sooo awkward

if you're gonna tell people, put on a serious tone and be straight about it xD
don't say "hey guess what!" like i did


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 17:24:42 Reply

At 8/21/08 05:18 PM, Dezimo wrote: if you're gonna tell people, put on a serious tone and be straight about it xD
don't say "hey guess what!" like i did

Ohhh God I can only imagine how that went :S who did you tell?

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 17:36:05 Reply

At 8/21/08 05:24 PM, Sun-and-Moon wrote:
At 8/21/08 05:18 PM, Dezimo wrote: if you're gonna tell people, put on a serious tone and be straight about it xD
don't say "hey guess what!" like i did
Ohhh God I can only imagine how that went :S who did you tell?

all of my friends xD

i told them all separately, but i managed to make each one awkward

things i'd saif include:
"hey guess what!"
"i have something cool we can talk about!"
"bet you can't guess what i'm about too say!"
..and more

avoid them xD


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 17:53:11 Reply

All the friends whom I told that I was bi all acted like they were expecting it. :\

Lol.

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2008-08-21 17:56:47 Reply

At 8/21/08 05:53 PM, reviewer-general wrote: All the friends whom I told that I was bi all acted like they were expecting it. :\

Lol.

none of my friends expected me to be gay xD

i'm the straightest gay person ever :)


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