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Regarding SCTE3's sexuality, I don't think it would matter if he were straight. At my school, we had a LGBTQA group that stood for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgendered, Questioning, and Allied. Allied were like straight people who supported the aforementioned people. So if he wasn't slightly bi or questioning or whatever, then it'd all be good anyway, yeah.

At 5/25/09 01:04 PM, Lost-Chances wrote:

At 5/25/09 12:26 PM, Sensationalism wrote: I can't believe we still have places like that.

This is the problem with a fucking religious government. One which counts religion morals as an actual reason. The main moral backing of homophobia is religion, that's it. If we cut religion out of the equation, like we should of done years and decades ago, we would be in a better position than we are now. I'm not by any means saying we should destroy religion, I'm just saying stop bringing religion into decisions to legalise things or prohibit things.

I agree. Religion and religious organisations have too much power in the government when they should have none at all.

At 5/25/09 06:17 PM, SCTE3 wrote: On a side note, got a splinter out of my heel that had been there since Saturday, had to use rubbing alcohol and a needle to get the fucker o ut and my heel hurts like hell for now, damn do splinters hurt. >:(

I hate splinters! I had one on my finger and then later I pulled the scab out because I forgot about it so it had to heal twice.

At 5/25/09 01:04 PM, Lost-Chances wrote:

At 5/25/09 12:26 PM, Sensationalism wrote:

This is the problem with a fucking religious government. One which counts religion morals as an actual reason. The main moral backing of homophobia is religion, that's it. If we cut religion out of the equation, like we should of done years and decades ago, we would be in a better position than we are now. I'm not by any means saying we should destroy religion, I'm just saying stop bringing religion into decisions to legalise things or prohibit things.

I agree. Religion and religious organisations have too much power in the government when they should have none at all.

Well i've always thought that religion was created as a way to reinforce the standing the first governments had on matters. Like a "If you don't agree with me, then god will cause your life to suck" or the way that they had "Divine Favor" - the way they used to kick kings out of ruling power after they became too corrupt, they would get a priest or some other higher up in the leading religious hierarchy to say that they had fallen from gods favor, and you need a new king. The peasants and nobles would throw the kingdom into an uprising until a new king was found.

Unfortunately though, religion seems to have grown into much more then this.

SIDE NOTE: I think this is my first posting here, so following suit with the rules, I suppose I should mention my sexuality, and it may just cause a discussion.
This is why. Most people call be bisexual because I will have sex with men, and women. My quarrel with this label is though, that I have always preferred men. I tend to make a lot of homosexual innuendo in conversation, and when people finally get bold enough to ask if i'm gay, I usually tell them, "Well, i'm a gay guy that will indulge in the occasional woman." The reason I say this is because I find so few women attractive, and usually the women that I find attractive are usually somewhat masculine, rather then small, petite, and big hooters like most guys like. But if i'm gay, then how could I have sex with a woman? It never has made sense to me, but I try not to rationalize it too much.
What do you guys think???

At 5/26/09 04:44 AM, TheFaces wrote: What do you guys think???

Bisexuality doesn't mean you like both sexes equally, just you like both sexes. I'd say you're a gay inclined bisexual.

At 5/26/09 06:49 AM, Lost-Chances wrote:

At 5/26/09 04:44 AM, TheFaces wrote: What do you guys think???

Bisexuality doesn't mean you like both sexes equally, just you like both sexes. I'd say you're a gay inclined bisexual.

That makes sense, although I like the way I say it better. The way you put it makes it sound gay.

I kid, I kid.

So are most of the users that post here actually gay/bi? (There are kind of a lot of pages to actually go through and look)
There are a few regs here even, like Sensationalism, and yourself. I was almost surprised, but then once I thought back for a minute, some things made sense.

At 5/26/09 07:08 AM, TheFaces wrote:

At 5/26/09 06:49 AM, Lost-Chances wrote:

At 5/26/09 04:44 AM, TheFaces wrote: What do you guys think???

Bisexuality doesn't mean you like both sexes equally, just you like both sexes. I'd say you're a gay inclined bisexual.

That makes sense, although I like the way I say it better. The way you put it makes it sound gay.

I kid, I kid.

Pft, it's more correct than saying "oh, I'm gay but I do like fucking women every so often".

So are most of the users that post here actually gay/bi? (There are kind of a lot of pages to actually go through and look)
There are a few regs here even, like Sensationalism, and yourself. I was almost surprised, but then once I thought back for a minute, some things made sense.

Actually, no. There's a transsexual somewhere and someone else who probably shouldn't be here considering he's straight. Everyone else, yep, gay or bisexual.

At 5/26/09 09:22 AM, Lost-Chances wrote: transsexual

This piques my interest

At 5/26/09 09:22 AM, Lost-Chances wrote: Actually, no. There's a transsexual somewhere and someone else who probably shouldn't be here considering he's straight. Everyone else, yep, gay or bisexual.

you can be a gay transsexual though, or bi or pansexual or straight
or asexual

At 5/26/09 10:03 AM, Sawdust wrote:

At 5/26/09 09:22 AM, Lost-Chances wrote: transsexual

This piques my interest

helo

At 5/26/09 12:33 PM, Reed wrote:

At 5/26/09 09:22 AM, Lost-Chances wrote: Actually, no. There's a transsexual somewhere and someone else who probably shouldn't be here considering he's straight. Everyone else, yep, gay or bisexual.

you can be a gay transsexual though, or bi or pansexual or straight
or asexual

True, but I'm assuming he didn't think there was a transsexual in the club.

At 5/26/09 06:49 AM, Lost-Chances wrote:

At 5/26/09 04:44 AM, TheFaces wrote: What do you guys think???

Bisexuality doesn't mean you like both sexes equally, just you like both sexes. I'd say you're a gay inclined bisexual.

I'd agree with that. I'm the same way. Bi with a strong preference for females though. The fact that I like guys at all prevents me from being lesbian. :(

At 5/26/09 12:33 PM, Reed wrote: helo

Know anything about that transexual?

At 5/27/09 01:26 AM, Sawdust wrote:

At 5/26/09 12:33 PM, Reed wrote: helo

Know anything about that transexual?

Is there supposed to be a comma there?

At 5/27/09 03:11 AM, Sensationalism wrote: Is there supposed to be a comma there?

No, why do you ask?

I'm asking if the man has anything on that transexual topic.

At 5/27/09 03:33 AM, Sawdust wrote:

At 5/27/09 03:11 AM, Sensationalism wrote: Is there supposed to be a comma there?

No, why do you ask?

I'm asking if the man has anything on that transexual topic.

Laughable irony sadly missed.

At 5/27/09 03:33 AM, Sawdust wrote:

At 5/27/09 03:11 AM, Sensationalism wrote: Is there supposed to be a comma there?

No, why do you ask?

I'm asking if the man has anything on that transexual topic.

hahaha, i am the transsexual! :P
or one of them i guess

At 5/26/09 04:44 AM, TheFaces wrote: What do you guys think???

Well, define gay.

Does gay refer to a person's biological sex, or does gay refer to sexual identity?

For instance, if a woman identifies herself as a woman, but she's attracted to women who identify as men, is she gay or she straight? Now, you could say that she's still gay because the women she's attracted to are still biologically women, but you could also say that she is straight because she's attracted to someone who identifies as a man.

In my opinion, I would say that you're gay because although you're attracted to men and women, the women you're attracted to either identify as men or are very close to it. Of course, it's hard to say because I don't know anything about the people you've dated but if my interpretation of what you're saying is correct, then you're attracted to people who identify or who personify themselves as men.

And by "more masculine" women I'm assuming you don't mean what I refer to as "fashionably tomboyish" meaning just having short hair and/or occasionally wearing something from the men's department? If not, then disregard what I've said because that would throw off my thesis.

Hate crime :(

At 5/27/09 02:45 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote:

At 5/26/09 04:44 AM, TheFaces wrote: What do you guys think???

Well, define gay.

Happy(old definition), now it pretty much means 2 people of the same sex who love each other very much.

Does gay refer to a person's biological sex, or does gay refer to sexual identity?

It can refer to both you know?

stuff

That pretty much sums up what I was going to say.

At 5/27/09 05:20 PM, Sensationalism wrote: Hate crime :(

"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face- forever." - George Orwell's 1984.

At 5/27/09 05:20 PM, Sensationalism wrote: Hate crime :(

Hmm... That's truly sickening. Fortunately i've never been a victim of a hate crime. I think it's in large part due to the fact that most places I go my reputation as a fighter precedes me, but I have had multiple people voice their disgust at my sexuality.
I do remember one time in highschool though I saved these two guys from a couple of jocks who had no other reason to fuck with them because they're gay. I ended up becoming really good friends with the two, and last I heard they were still together.

For those of you that are wondering, I stomped the three jocks into the ground.

At 5/28/09 01:03 AM, TheFaces wrote:

At 5/27/09 05:20 PM, Sensationalism wrote: Hate crime :(

Hmm... That's truly sickening. Fortunately i've never been a victim of a hate crime. I think it's in large part due to the fact that most places I go my reputation as a fighter precedes me, but I have had multiple people voice their disgust at my sexuality.
I do remember one time in highschool though I saved these two guys from a couple of jocks who had no other reason to fuck with them because they're gay. I ended up becoming really good friends with the two, and last I heard they were still together.

For those of you that are wondering, I stomped the three jocks into the ground.

Win Faces, utter Win! Hate crime pisses me off. I'm glad I live in a city, an area where my sexual orientation really doesn't matter to most people. I hate the fact I was able to tell every one of my friends I was gay, that they all unquestionably accepted it and don't particularly care, when there are so many out there who get hit, or verbally abused or whatever for being themselves. It's really fucking stupid.

I'm seeing a pattern, one that makes me seeth. God. All these fuckers, these homophobes are religious zealots. It pains me to say that the utter stupidity of religious followers is putting me off faith. I personally believe there is a higher power, one I refer to as God, but organised religon is starting to seem an outdated ploy aimed at stupid, pathetic people. I didn't always feel like this, but I'm starting to. Religon is idiodic (although personal faith is not).

Anyone attending any Pride events? Pride in my area is in July, I will try to go but I don't know if I'll be able to find anyone to go with me.

At 5/28/09 05:10 AM, Podburrys wrote:

At 5/28/09 01:03 AM, TheFaces wrote:

At 5/27/09 05:20 PM, Sensationalism wrote: Hate crime :(

Hmm... That's truly sickening. Fortunately i've never been a victim of a hate crime. I think it's in large part due to the fact that most places I go my reputation as a fighter precedes me, but I have had multiple people voice their disgust at my sexuality.
I do remember one time in highschool though I saved these two guys from a couple of jocks who had no other reason to fuck with them because they're gay. I ended up becoming really good friends with the two, and last I heard they were still together.

For those of you that are wondering, I stomped the three jocks into the ground.

Go Faces!!! That's really awesome!!

Win Faces, utter Win! Hate crime pisses me off. I'm glad I live in a city, an area where my sexual orientation really doesn't matter to most people. I hate the fact I was able to tell every one of my friends I was gay, that they all unquestionably accepted it and don't particularly care, when there are so many out there who get hit, or verbally abused or whatever for being themselves. It's really fucking stupid.

People in my town don't come out until after high school if they are gay. There was one lesbian in my brother's graduating class and people would talk about her behind her back a lot. I remember some girls complaining that she was allowed to use the girl's locker room. How ridiculous is that?
And this really slutty girl started going out with a new chick their senior year (when I was a junior). People talked about that, but I think they mostly did it for attention. Lots of PDA.

I didn't come out as bi until I started college. And most people in my hometown probably don't know.

I'm seeing a pattern, one that makes me seeth. God. All these fuckers, these homophobes are religious zealots. It pains me to say that the utter stupidity of religious followers is putting me off faith. I personally believe there is a higher power, one I refer to as God, but organised religon is starting to seem an outdated ploy aimed at stupid, pathetic people. I didn't always feel like this, but I'm starting to. Religon is idiodic (although personal faith is not).

I think people like to use religion as justification for their homophobia. Zealots are mostly scary. I thought christianity was about being loving and accepting? I don't think Jesus would be happy with those people. I'm atheist myself, but just saying.

At 5/28/09 11:06 PM, Sensationalism wrote: Anyone attending any Pride events? Pride in my area is in July, I will try to go but I don't know if I'll be able to find anyone to go with me.

I usually do. More for the free condoms then anything, but it's kind of cool being around so many good looking guys that are actually INTO guys.

Go Faces!!! That's really awesome!!

Well thank you.

Win Faces, utter Win!

Thank you too.

People in my town don't come out until after high school if they are gay. There was one lesbian in my brother's graduating class and people would talk about her behind her back a lot. I remember some girls complaining that she was allowed to use the girl's locker room. How ridiculous is that?
And this really slutty girl started going out with a new chick their senior year (when I was a junior). People talked about that, but I think they mostly did it for attention. Lots of PDA.
I didn't come out as bi until I started college. And most people in my hometown probably don't know.

I never actually came out. I was more or less outed by myself unintentionally . Basically when I was in my sophomore year of highschool I had a Ford Ranger. I drove up to my school one night to just hang out with some friends, and this guy that I had a crush on. We used to play football on my highschools field after dark with one of those glow in the dark NERF balls, just because it's too hot to play during the day time. Well after we were all tired, and ready to go home, I offered to give my crush a ride home. He accepted, and I professed to him that I had a crush for him. Well, it turned out that he was Bi, which I didn't know. I was parked in the front of my school where the staff parks, and I had a camper on my truck at the time. I usually kept a few blankets and crap in the back in case I would get home late, and I didn't want to wake up my dad by coming in the door, so I would just sleep in the truck. Well long story short we fell asleep in the back of my truck with the camper hatch and windows open for air, and I guess in the morning we were half naked, embraced, and the principal was kind of pissed off I was in his spot. I woke up, to the principal banging on my truck telling me to wake up and get dressed. Well it was already around 6:30 AM, and the busses and everybody else was just getting to school, so me and Jason had to get dressed in front of what was probably a good 30%-50% of the student body.
I really didn't care, and the principal apologized for embarrassing me, and explained that he really didn't realize. Luckily my school had/has a pretty large homosexual community, and it's really not uncommon to see gay couples. But it was still pretty embarrassing at the time.

I think people like to use religion as justification for their homophobia. Zealots are mostly scary. I thought christianity was about being loving and accepting? I don't think Jesus would be happy with those people. I'm atheist myself, but just saying.

Well, people are going to hate you for one reason or another. It doesn't really matter if it's for your skin, sexuality, political views, or just your social standing. If you're going to hate, then hate. Obviously they have something to be jealous of, so I love haters. Just as long as they don't confront me about it, then I won't stand on their neck until they apologize.

At 5/28/09 11:06 PM, Sensationalism wrote: Anyone attending any Pride events? Pride in my area is in July, I will try to go but I don't know if I'll be able to find anyone to go with me.

Way way way way too in the closet to bother. That and I hate loud places that feel "in-your-face". I'm a shy bastard.

Oh, and my nearest gay/bi/trans/pans/etc pride is in Brighton. No idea when.

People in my town don't come out until after high school if they are gay.

After I left compulsory education, I was surprised by the amount of bisexual and gay people. Okay, they were few in number, but it hit me like a train. A kid I knew in one of my glasses who sort of got on my nerves a bit turned out to be gay. What blew my mind even more was when a kid who constantly picked on me through-out secondary school since I was 12 until I left calling me gay and things like that was found giving that same gay kid head.

It was a twisted form of justice.

I didn't come out as bi until I started college. And most people in my hometown probably don't know.

I'm still not out at all. I came out to one person and that was followed by over six months of feeling bad.

I think people like to use religion as justification for their homophobia. Zealots are mostly scary. I thought christianity was about being loving and accepting? I don't think Jesus would be happy with those people. I'm atheist myself, but just saying.

I think Zealots forget we're in a society that accepts all walks of life. Well, SHOULD accept all walks of life. Yet their views are barbaric as some Middle Eastern countries yet they view them as barbaric and twisted. It's even worse when they try to convince themselves that they accept people for who they are but then get sicken by the behaviour they say they tolerate.

At 5/29/09 04:29 AM, TheFaces wrote: I really didn't care, and the principal apologized for embarrassing me, and explained that he really didn't realize. Luckily my school had/has a pretty large homosexual community, and it's really not uncommon to see gay couples. But it was still pretty embarrassing at the time.

I would be mortified if that happened to me. D:

At 5/29/09 11:44 AM, Lost-Chances wrote: I'm still not out at all. I came out to one person and that was followed by over six months of feeling bad.

I'm not in the closet, but I don't go around like, "Hi, my name's Kate and I"m queer."

I generally don't talk about my own sexual orientation most of the time, unless it's to a friend about a particular problem that I'm having, because I fear it will make them feel uncomfortable particularly if it's a woman. I'll admit to being queer if I'm asked the direct question, but I don't like going into detail about it. This is irl, not online, btw. I have much less inhibitions online.

Like, when I was telling some of my better friends about the problem I was having with who is now my ex-boyfriend, I felt uncomfortable adding in the part about me questioning my sexuality. It made me feel self conscious.

I think Zealots forget we're in a society that accepts all walks of life. Well, SHOULD accept all walks of life. Yet their views are barbaric as some Middle Eastern countries yet they view them as barbaric and twisted. It's even worse when they try to convince themselves that they accept people for who they are but then get sicken by the behaviour they say they tolerate.

"Love the sinner; hate the sin."

So, "loving the sinner" includes hate crimes and social prosecution? These people are full of contradictions, flawed logic, and ignorance.

At 5/28/09 01:03 AM, TheFaces wrote: Hmm... That's truly sickening. Fortunately i've never been a victim of a hate crime. I think it's in large part due to the fact that most places I go my reputation as a fighter precedes me, but I have had multiple people voice their disgust at my sexuality.

I remember once in my homeroom this kid pointed to me and saidd to someone else, "That kid's bi.......everyone's turning fucking gay now.....".

That's pretty much the closest I've ever come to being gay bashed. Most people seem to like me.

At 5/28/09 11:06 PM, Sensationalism wrote: Anyone attending any Pride events? Pride in my area is in July, I will try to go but I don't know if I'll be able to find anyone to go with me.

If I did go to an event, I probably wouldn't do much.
Intovertedness.

At 5/29/09 05:36 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote: I'm not in the closet, but I don't go around like, "Hi, my name's Kate and I"m queer."

Same. I've only really come out to a few people, most other people find out on their own or question me about it.

Unrelated; I've been it on by two fat black gay men in the past week.

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At 5/26/09 06:49 AM, Lost-Chances wrote: Bisexuality doesn't mean you like both sexes equally, just you like both sexes. I'd say you're a gay inclined bisexual.

Dude, You're gay? Man I was away a long time. Either that or I already knew you were gay and am being an idiot.

Anyway. Bisexual chick, only just noticed this club. I wanna join!

At 5/29/09 06:24 PM, BobbyJenkins wrote:

At 5/26/09 06:49 AM, Lost-Chances wrote: Bisexuality doesn't mean you like both sexes equally, just you like both sexes. I'd say you're a gay inclined bisexual.

Dude, You're gay? Man I was away a long time. Either that or I already knew you were gay and am being an idiot.

I'm bisexual actually. I only really started coming out about a year ago on Newgrounds but I've been bisexual since I was about 13 or 14.

Assuming that was directed at me.

Anyway. Bisexual chick, only just noticed this club. I wanna join!

Go ahead, more the merrier.

At 5/29/09 06:32 PM, Lost-Chances wrote: I'm bisexual actually.

Ah shit, sorry, jumped to conclusions.

Go ahead, more the merrier.

YAAAYYY!!!! *gets all caught up in the dyke drama*

At 5/29/09 06:19 PM, AngryBanana wrote: Same. I've only really come out to a few people, most other people find out on their own or question me about it.

Also the same. I think you're only 'in danger' of retarded responses if you don't inform people, the people don't know you and you just randomly do related things near them. I think that's what they mean by 'forcing it on them', but still, that's really piss weak.

Relating to the prevailing theme of ignorance, there was this kid on the forum who was stereotyping gay males. I said that he can't, and he proceeded to tell me I was wrong because he honestly thought all gay guys were limp handed pixies. I corrected him with the fact I knew I was correct because I am essentially gay, and once broke someones nose before beating the utter shit out of them. He admitted he was wrong - before admiting the fact there are some 'pretty tank gays' out there, but you guys all have the accent and don't deny it. I can't believe people honestly believe we're ALL stereotypes.

FOr the record I don't have the lisp/accent.

At 5/29/09 10:10 PM, Podburrys wrote:

FOr the record I don't have the lisp/accent.

Actually... what's whit that? Does anybody here have that? I don't. I've only known one kid that had that, and I think he did it just to be funny.