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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-03 18:51:38 Reply

At 11/2/12 11:27 PM, SG3 wrote: That, or I'm way off. If you can invalidate my argument I'll poke around and re-evaluate my position on the subject.

Animals do get pleasure from sex. They're not aware that sex leads to reproduction so there must be some sort of incentive such as pleasure.

Like anything that's pleasurable they can learn how to obtain some amount of satisfaction without actually have sex which is why they masturbate (masturbation has been known to take place in a variety of animals). I'd say that if an animal can feel pleasure then their invividual motivation would be obtaining pleasure, not reproduction even though the act of sex usually leads to the latter.

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-03 19:35:36 Reply

At 11/3/12 06:51 PM, Entice wrote: Animals do get pleasure from sex. They're not aware that sex leads to reproduction so there must be some sort of incentive such as pleasure.

That's true, it's well known that dolphins often have sex merely for pleasure. I think it has more to do with mammals than animals in general.

But coming back to the topic of human reproduction, there are several factors that play into what sex actually does for us. Sex and love are definitely two different worlds entirely, yet they can be profoundly connected. The old argument is that humans aren't naturally monogamous. Yes we are able to have sex with multiple people but we are also very hard wired to have a committed relationship with one person.

When it comes down to it, there's no umbrella philosophy for sex and love that fits every person. Some will be promiscuous and some are only interested in one person. You can't judge someone's interests based on your own experiences.

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-03 20:43:23 Reply

At 11/3/12 07:35 PM, RobinDB wrote:
At 11/3/12 06:51 PM, Entice wrote: Animals do get pleasure from sex. They're not aware that sex leads to reproduction so there must be some sort of incentive such as pleasure.
That's true, it's well known that dolphins often have sex merely for pleasure. I think it has more to do with mammals than animals in general.

It is a common myth that animals do not (as a rule) have sex for pleasure, or alternatively that humans, pigs (and perhaps dolphins and one or two species of primate) are the only species which do. This is sometimes formulated "animals mate only for reproduction".

Just did a quick google. Also:

Animals other than humans have no awareness that their sexual activities are connected with reproduction: They engage in sex because they're biologically driven to do so, and if the fulfillment of their urges produces a physical sensation we might appropriately call 'pleasure,' it isn't the least bit affected by the possibility (or impossibility) of producing offspring.

I stand corrected. Apparently there's some leniency over the definitions, as with other emotions of animals, but that's sufficient ground for me to rethink my claim.

Male penguin couples have been documented to mate for life, build nests together, and to use a stone as a surrogate egg in nesting and brooding. In 2004, the Central Park Zoo in the United States replaced one male couple's stone with a fertilized egg, which the couple then raised as their own offspring. "Humans have created the myth that sexuality can be justified only by reproduction, which by definition limits it to hetero sex," says Michael Bronski. "But here is an animal society that uses homosexuality to improve its social life."

Aww.

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-04 08:12:12 Reply

At 11/3/12 08:43 PM, SG3 wrote:
At 11/3/12 07:35 PM, RobinDB wrote:
At 11/3/12 06:51 PM, Entice wrote:

We're so enlightened here aren't we.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-04 14:18:25 Reply

At 11/4/12 08:12 AM, Confucianism wrote: We're so enlightened here aren't we.

U mad?

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-04 14:19:08 Reply

At 11/4/12 02:18 PM, Painbringer wrote: U mad?

I don't see why I would be.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-04 14:25:12 Reply

At 11/4/12 02:20 PM, Amaranthus wrote: I know you guys secretly like each other

His liking of me is no secret. However you are wrong about me.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-04 14:27:20 Reply

At 11/4/12 02:25 PM, Amaranthus wrote: That's sad

He's already got a boyfriend. So I wouldn't feel so bad if I were you.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-04 14:33:01 Reply

Damn, you could cut the lack of sexual tension in here with a knife.

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-04 14:34:38 Reply

At 11/4/12 02:33 PM, SG3 wrote: Damn, you could cut the lack of sexual tension in here with a knife.

I'll have a slice thank you.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-04 14:35:47 Reply

At 11/4/12 08:12 AM, Confucianism wrote: We're so enlightened here aren't we.

Did you say that just for the sake of being negative or because you can't refute anything that we said?

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-04 14:56:23 Reply

At 11/4/12 02:33 PM, SG3 wrote: Damn, you could cut the lack of sexual tension in here with a knife.

It's a gay club with a different kind of "gay."

I don't care what Confucianism thinks of me anymore, just as long as he's not turning everyone against me for thinking the way I do.

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-04 15:01:49 Reply

At 11/4/12 02:35 PM, Entice wrote:
At 11/4/12 08:12 AM, Confucianism wrote: We're so enlightened here aren't we.
Did you say that just for the sake of being negative or because you can't refute anything that we said?

Oh my no. And not because I couldn't disprove anything either. Just because of how we always get so deep into these kinds of conversations and always end up with a satisfactory conclusions. Unlike the rest of the forums......

At 11/4/12 02:56 PM, Painbringer wrote: It's a gay club with a different kind of "gay."

You mean different preferences, morals ect. There isn't any other kind of gay. That as in being homosexual.

I don't care what Confucianism thinks of me anymore, just as long as he's not turning everyone against me for thinking the way I do.

Hey now, as long as you don't talk to me about I don't care. You do what you want to. And even suggesting that I would do such a thing, damn. That's nasty.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-04 15:06:14 Reply

At 11/4/12 03:01 PM, Amaranthus wrote: All he said about you against me (in a thread) is that you're ugly, that's it.

I said I don't find him attractive. Same as I don't find anyone else I've seen a picture of in this club or even anywhere else on here attractive.

Don't mix my words Ama.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-04 15:08:36 Reply

At 11/4/12 03:06 PM, Amaranthus wrote: I'm not

I think you are. I've never even said the word ugly on NG. And now I have. I hope you're happy young man.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-04 15:10:43 Reply

At 11/4/12 03:09 PM, Amaranthus wrote: You did say you'd get freaked out by his nudes

Yes. I know. And I would. Just like I would if I were to see anyone's nudes here.
*Sigh*
This doesn't mean that I think he's ugly.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-04 15:15:35 Reply

At 11/4/12 03:01 PM, Confucianism wrote: Oh my no. And not because I couldn't disprove anything either. Just because of how we always get so deep into these kinds of conversations and always end up with a satisfactory conclusions.

Okay. That post sounded extremely sarcastic so I was confuzed

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-04 15:26:45 Reply

At 11/4/12 03:01 PM, Confucianism wrote: You mean different preferences, morals ect. There isn't any other kind of gay. That as in being homosexual.

I meant the derogatory kind of gay, meaning lame/uncool/stupid, just like kids use in school - That's how I found the atmosphere here.

Hey now, as long as you don't talk to me about I don't care. You do what you want to. And even suggesting that I would do such a thing, damn. That's nasty.

Well, I dunno.

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-04 15:34:55 Reply

At 11/4/12 03:15 PM, Entice wrote: Okay. That post sounded extremely sarcastic so I was confuzed

I'm not a sarcastic person. I recall being noted as very much like Agent K from Men in Black.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-05 17:28:13 Reply

At 11/4/12 03:34 PM, Confucianism wrote: I'm not a sarcastic person.

Do you ever use sarcasm? I know it's very commonly used here on NG.

But if not, then I apologize for accusing you of it, and will try to remember that in the future.

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-06 12:46:42 Reply

Hey, so, presidential elections. What's with that?

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-06 13:01:47 Reply

At 11/6/12 12:46 PM, SG3 wrote: Hey, so, presidential elections. What's with that?

Too early to tell.

But there are just under five hours left to vote as of now.

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-06 14:05:13 Reply

At 11/6/12 01:01 PM, Painbringer wrote:
At 11/6/12 12:46 PM, SG3 wrote: Hey, so, presidential elections. What's with that?
Too early to tell.

But there are just under five hours left to vote as of now.

I meant more like, did/could anyone here vote? Opinions?

Also, when are results announced?

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-06 14:14:21 Reply

At 11/6/12 02:05 PM, SG3 wrote: I meant more like, did/could anyone here vote? Opinions?

I voted early, for Obama. Based mostly on his social policies.

Also, when are results announced?

Sometime tonight I presume.

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-06 16:26:27 Reply

At 11/5/12 05:28 PM, Painbringer wrote: Do you ever use sarcasm?

Probably. But I don't remember. It may as well be said that I don't considering how little I do.

But if not, then I apologize for accusing you of it, and will try to remember that in the future.

I don't recall you ever accusing me of such a thing.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-06 17:47:05 Reply

At 11/6/12 02:05 PM, SG3 wrote: I meant more like, did/could anyone here vote? Opinions?

I can't vote, but I want Gary Johnson to win. I know he doesn't have a hope in hell, though, so I'm not sure. I hate all of Romney's social policies, and some of his economical polices as well, but I dislike a few of Obama's economical policies, too, along with the fact that he passed the National Defense Act, which allows the indefinite detention or execution of anyone in the US without a trial. So I'm really conflicted

Also, when are results announced?

They're supposed to be announced tonight, but due to Hurricane Sandy screwing up the entire East Coast, there could be delays, and I can guarantee you there will be challenges to the winner.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-06 18:13:04 Reply

At 11/6/12 05:47 PM, Scarface wrote: They're supposed to be announced tonight, but due to Hurricane Sandy screwing up the entire East Coast, there could be delays, and I can guarantee you there will be challenges to the winner.

I've already seen links to articles about bugs in new voting machines popping up on Google, Facebook, and even the BBS.

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-06 18:27:06 Reply

At 11/6/12 02:05 PM, SG3 wrote: I meant more like, did/could anyone here vote?

I cannot vote for I am not a citizen of the U.S.A.

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-07 01:33:06 Reply

Major victories for gay marriage in the US today. Main voted to legalize gay marriage and it looks like Maryland and Minnesota are following suit.

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club 2012-11-07 04:30:54 Reply

At 11/7/12 01:33 AM, Entice wrote: Major victories for gay marriage in the US today.

And this is only the beginning...

More states will follow suit eventually.