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At 9/26/12 09:42 PM, Scarface wrote: Homosexuality tears down basic principles other people care about.

Are you really bringing that to the table? Really?

At 9/26/12 09:47 PM, Confucianism wrote:

At 9/26/12 09:42 PM, Scarface wrote: Homosexuality tears down basic principles other people care about.

Are you really bringing that to the table? Really?

Yes, because it's the same issue. Just because you don't like something doesn't make it wrong.

Personally, the entirety of all my relationship problems could be solved by me being in a polyamorous relationship, but I won't do it, because I personally don't agree with that. If other people want to do that, I won't think ill of them.

At 9/26/12 09:50 PM, Scarface wrote:

You want to know what you've just done? You've just had a look at my dish and then decided to re make it but follow the same recipe I used and wrote.

At 9/26/12 09:54 PM, Confucianism wrote: You want to know what you've just done? You've just had a look at my dish and then decided to re make it but follow the same recipe I used and wrote.

And yet you see NO parallel whatsoever to your opinion on this, and other people's opinions on homosexuality.

Really? You don't see that?

At 9/26/12 09:56 PM, Scarface wrote: And yet you see NO parallel whatsoever to your opinion on this, and other people's opinions on homosexuality.

Really? You don't see that?

You obviously don't get what I've said do you.

Anyway. I'm not going to stop them or try to convince them otherwise. I just don't like it. I don't think their inferior or some how genetically bad or sin worthy. Like a lot of people consider being homosexual to be. My ideas when it comes to dealing or what I think of it are not parallel to peoples oppinions of tha matter.

At 9/26/12 10:02 PM, Confucianism wrote: You obviously don't get what I've said do you.

Actually, I don't think you get what you've said. You said you would lose respect for people who didn't go about relationships in a way that thought was right, and I disagree with that. That's the same as someone respecting you less for being homosexual.

Anyway. I'm not going to stop them or try to convince them otherwise. I just don't like it. I don't think their inferior or some how genetically bad or sin worthy. Like a lot of people consider being homosexual to be. My ideas when it comes to dealing or what I think of it are not parallel to peoples oppinions of tha matter.

I'm pointing out the parallelism to let you know how it feels to be disrespected just because your idea of a loving relationship is different. Clearly, you didn't get it.

So I came out to everyone that I am bisexual. I don't think anyone believed me at first, or if they do at all, regardless, I went further and just admitted on my facebook, even though I only have like 30 friends, it was still uncomfortable to do.

At 9/28/12 02:37 PM, freshmaker49 wrote: So I came out to everyone that I am bisexual. I don't think anyone believed me at first, or if they do at all, regardless, I went further and just admitted on my facebook, even though I only have like 30 friends, it was still uncomfortable to do.

Well I still to this day get a very surprised response when someone finds out I'm gay. What they say is that i just don't give off that kind of impression. *Pat pat* Well done anyway. And welcome to the club.

At 9/28/12 02:37 PM, freshmaker49 wrote: So I came out to everyone that I am bisexual. I don't think anyone believed me at first, or if they do at all, regardless, I went further and just admitted on my facebook, even though I only have like 30 friends, it was still uncomfortable to do.

Congrats on coming out, and welcome to the club!

There may be some people who don't believe you, but just ignore them.

At 9/28/12 05:51 PM, Painbringer wrote: I'm guessing bisexuals get a bad rap because many gay guys come out as bi.

They're stereotyped as confused. I get the feeling that most people don't believe me, including my parents.
Supposedly biphobia exists in the gay community too but I haven't seen it firsthand.

At 9/28/12 06:11 PM, Entice wrote:

At 9/28/12 05:51 PM, Painbringer wrote: I'm guessing bisexuals get a bad rap because many gay guys come out as bi.

They're stereotyped as confused. I get the feeling that most people don't believe me, including my parents.

I've only come out to close friends (I came out to my family as thinking I might be gay quite a few years ago, I think they've already forgotten and assume I'm straight), and they all seem to believe me.

Supposedly biphobia exists in the gay community too but I haven't seen it firsthand.

Same with me, but I have a feeling that the types of gays who would do that are the kind who would flaunt their sexuality around, and who I wouldn't want to be friends with anyway.

At 9/28/12 10:31 PM, Painbringer wrote:

At 9/28/12 10:03 PM, Scarface wrote: I have a feeling that the types of gays who would do that are the kind who would flaunt their sexuality around,

I fail to see what sexual openness has to to with biphobia, but I'm guessing a lot of gay men think that bi men are really gay and just won't admit it.

I was going more for the hipsterish attitude of people who enjoy being the only one of their kind (not all flamboyant gays, of course).

At 9/29/12 03:43 PM, Painbringer wrote:

At 9/28/12 11:12 PM, Scarface wrote: I was going more for the hipsterish attitude of people who enjoy being the only one of their kind (not all flamboyant gays, of course).

I fail to see how gays can think that they're the only one, unless they were sheltered from the outside world or something.

I often see a sort of "You can't be gay" attitude, almost like it's an exclusive clique. As if I just wanted to be popular.

At 9/29/12 10:16 PM, Painbringer wrote:

At 9/29/12 10:05 PM, Scarface wrote: I often see a sort of "You can't be gay" attitude, almost like it's an exclusive clique. As if I just wanted to be popular.

Who can't be gay?

Someone who doesn't "look gay enough". Sometimes people will refuse to believe you are gay/bisexual if you don't act a certain way. Some people are under the impression that people try to be gay in order to become more popular, become the center of attention, ect.

So idk if this has been posted before, but i'd like to talk about it.

I'm a gay teenager. I like to fantasize about guys when i'm doing my personal romantic needs.
But sometimes all I can think about is girls doing that to me and it's all really confusing.
I've never really found them attractive except like a little bit, but before I accepted who I was I would think about them a lot and now i'm wondering if this is just teenage sexual crave or am I not really gay, I just think I am.

(I'm not good with words,so if you dont understand something ask me.)

At 9/29/12 10:34 PM, K1LL80Y wrote: So idk if this has been posted before, but i'd like to talk about it.

I'm a gay teenager. I like to fantasize about guys when i'm doing my personal romantic needs.
But sometimes all I can think about is girls doing that to me and it's all really confusing.
I've never really found them attractive except like a little bit, but before I accepted who I was I would think about them a lot and now i'm wondering if this is just teenage sexual crave or am I not really gay, I just think I am.

It's possible that you are bisexual. Judging from what you said, you seem to have sexual thought about mostly boys, but sometimes girls. If you want my opinion, I'd say you like boys more than girls, but still have some attraction to both.

I'm pretty much the same way. I think I'm physically attracted to both, but personality wise, I definitely like guys better.

At 9/29/12 10:37 PM, Scarface wrote:

It's possible that you are bisexual. Judging from what you said, you seem to have sexual thought about mostly boys, but sometimes girls. If you want my opinion, I'd say you like boys more than girls, but still have some attraction to both.

I'm pretty much the same way. I think I'm physically attracted to both, but personality wise, I definitely like guys better.

Yeah thats what I think too, but I mean I havent thought about girls like that since like... beginnings of puberty? So it's been a while.

At 9/29/12 11:11 PM, Painbringer wrote:

At 9/29/12 10:28 PM, Scarface wrote: Someone who doesn't "look gay enough". Sometimes people will refuse to believe you are gay/bisexual if you don't act a certain way.

Soon after I came out to my family, my mom argued that I can't really be gay because I didn't look or act like it.

I hate shit like that.

Some people are under the impression that people try to be gay in order to become more popular, become the center of attention, ect.

You don't believe that, do you?

I suppose it can happen, but I would never doubt someone unless I knew from prior experience that they lied about a lot of things.

My biggest reason for coming out in general (to everyone other than family) was to pick up guys.

Same for me.

buttttts

Did you just delete your post Luis?

At 9/30/12 09:47 AM, Confucianism wrote: Did you just delete your post Luis?

YEA. I was really annoyed with it.

At 9/30/12 06:41 AM, Painbringer wrote: Well, gays can attract girls quite easily. But how many straight guys would fake being gay just just for that?

Very, very few.