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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 2nd, 2010 @ 06:39 PM Reply

At 8/2/10 03:02 PM, HappyMango wrote: i think it would be funny if we got it backwards, and hell is actually the place you WANT to go to. like going to hell is the equivilant of what we consider heaven to be like.

Can't say I'd find it that funny.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 2nd, 2010 @ 11:34 PM Reply

well at least appreciate the irony if that were true.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 3rd, 2010 @ 05:00 AM Reply

At 8/2/10 11:34 PM, HappyMango wrote: well at least appreciate the irony if that were true.

I'm not even sure if that's ironic.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 3rd, 2010 @ 08:03 AM Reply

how is spending your whole life trying to avoid hell, when it turns out to be the good place to go, not ironic?


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 3rd, 2010 @ 12:15 PM Reply

At 8/2/10 03:02 PM, HappyMango wrote: i think it would be funny if we got it backwards, and hell is actually the place you WANT to go to. like going to hell is the equivilant of what we consider heaven to be like.

Not if you think about the things you'd then be actually encouraged to do. Like murder would be a good thing and plenty more other unpleasant things. So the place I go that is good is filled with murderers and thieves and the like? Still wouldn't be very heavenly to me.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 3rd, 2010 @ 12:20 PM Reply

Hi, i've only really posted in here a few times and they were few and far between, but I wonder if anyone would be willing to offer advice, or moreover any ideas on something.

I'm quite certain i'm gay (i've had feelings of sexual attraction for males but never women). I've "known" for a few years now. I've even come out to a select few of my friends who I felt I could trust, and should know.

However, over the past few months, i've found myself thinking more and more, about telling my mum. There isn't really any problem there, she's completely fine with homosexual men and has many gay friends (she's even gone as far as saying to both me and my brother that she would have no qualms if either of us were gay). But I have no idea how to approach the topic.

There isn't really any urgency or anything, it's just something i'd like to do.

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I'm 17 years old, male.
I live in Dubai, homosexuality is illegal here.
Me and my mum are very, very close.
She sometimes says things that imply she thinks i'm straight, talks about girlfriends etc.
I have one brother, older. He's straight as far as I know.

Thanks in advance to anyone thats willing to offer any advice or insight : )


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 3rd, 2010 @ 12:27 PM Reply

I would say something like:
"Hey mom, you know how you said you'd have no qualms if my brother or I were gay? Well, I am."

You could wait until it is urgent, but it just seems like you want her to know and that's fine. Do whatever feels right for you.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 3rd, 2010 @ 12:31 PM Reply

At 8/3/10 12:27 PM, Sensationalism wrote: I would say something like:
"Hey mom, you know how you said you'd have no qualms if my brother or I were gay? Well, I am."

You could wait until it is urgent, but it just seems like you want her to know and that's fine. Do whatever feels right for you.

This, but I would wait until it felt like the right time to tell her, if you get my meaning. It's not something you say everyday, you know.

" Hey mom, I'm going out to eat, and then I'm going to hang out with some friends. Oh, also, I'm gay. Alright, bye!"

You'll probably know when the right time to come out is.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 3rd, 2010 @ 12:56 PM Reply

At 8/3/10 12:31 PM, Scarface wrote: " Hey mom, I'm going out to eat, and then I'm going to hang out with some friends. Oh, also, I'm gay. Alright, bye!"

But if I was a lesbbian, I'd probably use the line "Mom, I gonna eat out tongiht. in both sense of the word"


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 3rd, 2010 @ 01:09 PM Reply

At 8/3/10 12:56 PM, JohnnyWang wrote:
At 8/3/10 12:31 PM, Scarface wrote: " Hey mom, I'm going out to eat, and then I'm going to hang out with some friends. Oh, also, I'm gay. Alright, bye!"
But if I was a lesbbian, I'd probably use the line "Mom, I gonna eat out tongiht. in both sense of the word"

But gay is a bit more boring. "I'm going to go out, grab lunch and have some sausages, in both senses of the word".

Yeah, just doesn't work as well.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 3rd, 2010 @ 03:29 PM Reply

At 8/3/10 12:27 PM, Sensationalism wrote: Do whatever feels right for you.

I think this is probably the best way to say it really. It is probably much better doing something I feel comfortable with, as apposed to trying an approach that worked for someone else.

At 8/3/10 12:31 PM, Scarface wrote: I would wait until it felt like the right time to tell her, if you get my meaning. It's not something you say everyday, you know.

I think this is the biggest thing stopping me. It does seem like something thats relatively important, and should probably be treated as such. I'm ready to tell her, but I think i've either not been proactive enough in creating a suitable situation, or there just haven't been any. I kind of feel like i'm waiting on something without any ETA.

You'll probably know when the right time to come out is.

You think? I'm unsure. There have been a few moments where i've just though damn, I really want to just finish this, let's do this. But I always stop myself, usually because i'm either slightly drunk, or the situation doesn't seem appropriate.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 3rd, 2010 @ 05:33 PM Reply

At 8/3/10 12:15 PM, Sensationalism wrote:
Not if you think about the things you'd then be actually encouraged to do. Like murder would be a good thing

i think you misunderstood me. the same things to do to get into heaven are the same. but just the names are switched. heaven is where bad ppl go, and hell is for good ppl. sorry if i left confusion behind.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 3rd, 2010 @ 07:46 PM Reply

At 8/3/10 05:33 PM, HappyMango wrote:
At 8/3/10 12:15 PM, Sensationalism wrote:
Not if you think about the things you'd then be actually encouraged to do. Like murder would be a good thing
i think you misunderstood me. the same things to do to get into heaven are the same. but just the names are switched. heaven is where bad ppl go, and hell is for good ppl. sorry if i left confusion behind.

Ohhhh. I thought like everything was the same but it was good to go to hell.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 3rd, 2010 @ 08:14 PM Reply

im glad we could work out this confusion together.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 4th, 2010 @ 12:09 AM Reply

just to jump in here for a sec...im bi my gf knows and doesnt trip...as far as hell, im going there for things i did WAY before i was bi....

i mean hell the only reason i am bit is because to be honest i didnt see the big deal of people bashing others for being gay and i wanted to see what was so fun or whatever about being gay so i rang up a friend who is gay and asked him to let me do him... i liked it and have been ever since...still dont see the big deal really...and as far as "god" is concerned, i dont think he would condemn people for being gay...i mean in the end he wants us to be happy right? be true to ourselves...so y would he be mad.......?


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 4th, 2010 @ 01:18 AM Reply

At 8/4/10 12:09 AM, ghostxero wrote: ...so i rang up a friend who is gay and asked him to let me do him... i liked it and have been ever since...

I wish that I had your friends.

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 4th, 2010 @ 06:57 AM Reply

At 8/4/10 12:09 AM, ghostxero wrote: im bi my gf knows and doesnt trip...

...Son of a bitch...


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 4th, 2010 @ 09:18 AM Reply

At 8/4/10 01:18 AM, bgraybr wrote:
At 8/4/10 12:09 AM, ghostxero wrote: ...so i rang up a friend who is gay and asked him to let me do him... i liked it and have been ever since...
I wish that I had your friends.

Me too.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 4th, 2010 @ 07:36 PM Reply

At 8/4/10 12:09 AM, ghostxero wrote: just to jump in here for a sec...im bi my gf knows and doesnt trip...as far as hell, im going there for things i did WAY before i was bi....

You did this other guy before being with her or you do stuff with guys WHILE being with her?


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 4th, 2010 @ 11:11 PM Reply

no no no this was like...3 years ago that i rang him up for a bit of the ol...gobble the monster and all.

ive only been with my gf for about....9 months now, i told her in the very beginning and she was like WOW...ok! haven't done anything with a guy since...though she did mention wanting to watch cause she is fascinated by it and wants to understand how they could possible survive a liaison with me....


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 5th, 2010 @ 12:39 AM Reply

one qeustion? will any of the bi girls send porn =3

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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 5th, 2010 @ 01:43 AM Reply

At 8/5/10 12:39 AM, zmatt007 wrote: one qeustion? will any of the bi girls send porn =3

No.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 5th, 2010 @ 09:18 AM Reply

At 8/5/10 12:39 AM, zmatt007 wrote: one qeustion? will any of the bi girls send porn =3

No. And if you're on the internet but can't find your own porn, you need serious help.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 5th, 2010 @ 12:32 PM Reply

So I read an Australian article recently which said Gay people smoked a lot more than straight people, which from my experience didn't at all surprise me. I can't find that particular article, but when looking for it I found many more such as this one from a few years back saying:

About 14 percent of Californians smoke, according to a 2005 Department of Health Services survey released in April. But in a 2004 state survey, more than 30 percent of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people were smokers.

Does that come as a surprise to anyone? Thoughts, opinions?


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 5th, 2010 @ 12:35 PM Reply

At 8/5/10 12:32 PM, HungarianSupermarket wrote: Does that come as a surprise to anyone? Thoughts, opinions?

Like, cigarette smokers? Or marijuana?


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 5th, 2010 @ 12:49 PM Reply

At 8/5/10 12:35 PM, Scarface wrote:
At 8/5/10 12:32 PM, HungarianSupermarket wrote: Does that come as a surprise to anyone? Thoughts, opinions?
Like, cigarette smokers? Or marijuana?

I assume cigarettes. And yes, I am surprised, unsure why though.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 5th, 2010 @ 01:38 PM Reply

At 8/5/10 12:32 PM, HungarianSupermarket wrote: Does that come as a surprise to anyone? Thoughts, opinions?

Maybe it was how the question was presented. Maybe they ask "do you do fags"

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But anyway, I'm gonna make huge leaps of logic based on generalizations, but bear with me: Most smokers start young, usually underage. There are very few who actually start smoking when it's legal for them to do so, and for a good reason, adults know better. Now, another study has shown that gay teenagers are ore likely to get a girl pregnant, and lesbian teenagers are more likely to get pregnant, because queer teens try hard to assert being heterosexual. I would guess that the same preassure to assert ones masculinity is also somewhat accountable for the larger amount of smokers.

But then again, it could just be a statistical anomaly; when 5-10% of the population is LGBT, the difference to the general population doesn't need to be that big to already stand out.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 5th, 2010 @ 01:48 PM Reply

At 8/5/10 12:32 PM, HungarianSupermarket wrote: Does that come as a surprise to anyone? Thoughts, opinions?

My only idea is that because the large amount of conflict during teenage years, it creates stress. This may then lead to smoking due to stress relief, conformity/finding acceptance (through finding a common ground with others) and depression where they smoke because they know it's destroying them. Plus among male homosexuals, there is also the idea they should stay in shape which may include smoking to quiet down the hunger drive. While lesbians, some stay in touch with their feminine side and try to keep into shape via smoking, while smoking also can be seen as somewhat masculine and an act a butch lesbian may take up.

There's a lot of generalisations, but if the statistic is significant, then some questions need to be raised.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 5th, 2010 @ 02:23 PM Reply

At 8/5/10 12:49 PM, Punkboyben wrote:
At 8/5/10 12:35 PM, Scarface wrote:
At 8/5/10 12:32 PM, HungarianSupermarket wrote: Does that come as a surprise to anyone? Thoughts, opinions?
Like, cigarette smokers? Or marijuana?
I assume cigarettes. And yes, I am surprised, unsure why though.

Derp, silly me. I forgot to check back on this. Yes, cigarettes is what I am/the statistics are referring to. I don't know of any statistics about illegal drugs and the gay community, though there is that stereotype of gays taking lots of drugs and partying.. that's another topic though.

But why I brought it up is because I found it incredibly relevant to my local gay community. You walk past any gay bar here on a weekend night and you're guaranteed to have at least 5 people outside smoking, and you walk past any other bar/club and there will only be the occasional one or two.


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Response to Newgrounds Gay/bisexual Users Club Aug. 6th, 2010 @ 07:46 PM Reply

can i join?I'm bisexual.