Rpg maker to swf.

[stickmasta]

I was wondering if anyone here knew if you could switch Rpg maker files into flash files because I
Have a Game I wanted to convert to a flash , but it won't let me just import it so I'm wondering is it possible

[Hoeloe]

No. swf RPG's are made in flash.

[stickmasta]

So there's no way to convert the exe file to a swf file?

[Hoeloe]

No. Not as far as I know, but I doubt very much there is a way, because .swf and .exe are two very different filetypes.

[stickmasta]

oh ok well if anyone knows a way PM me

[gdog163]

If you have the .exe fil on your PC, try looking for some sort of Uploader, that can changhe files for you. Or you can open the .exe in flash(i think) and export into .swf, but im pretty sure thats impossible.

[Deathcon7]

It's impossible. The reliance on image files in RPG maker, and trying to convert that into flash, will create such a large file that it wouldn't be a good idea anyway. Also, the programming, the controls, and everything else involved with the program is not written in AS, meaning that you'd have to find a program to convert the programming into AS so that flash player could read it. There is no such thing, and there never will be because of the amount of work it would take, you would literally have to translate every single line of code into a format AS understands, and then put it into the syntax acceptable by the language. Like translating english to spanish through a computer, errors will be made and those errors will crash the program.

So, no, it isn't possible to convert an RPG Maker executable into an swf file, simple put, No.

[imaganimation]

At 7/17/08 08:44 AM, stickmasta wrote: I was wondering if anyone here knew if you could switch Rpg maker files into flash files because I
Have a Game I wanted to convert to a flash , but it won't let me just import it so I'm wondering is it possible

games made in RPG maker aren't just exe's. They require an entire library (rtp) of images, codes, music, etc, and for the person playing it to own rpg maker. I've made some fkin sweet rpgmaker games, but its impossible to change them into swf's, trust me if we could newgrounds would be flooded with cheesy rpgs.

[GustTheASGuy]

I couldn't be arsed explaining this earlier but now you're just giving uneducated explanations.

At 7/17/08 01:42 PM, Deathcon7 wrote: It's impossible.

Very apparently possible. Like launching an elephant into space.

The reliance on image files in RPG maker, and trying to convert that into flash, will create such a large file that it wouldn't be a good idea anyway.

Erm SWFs are designed to contain images and would in fact compress.

Also, the programming, the controls, and everything else involved with the program is not written in AS, meaning that you'd have to find a program to convert the programming into AS so that flash player could read it.

Actually it's that EXEs contain native opcodes as opposed to AVM bytecode. Not AS.

There is no such thing, and there never will be because of the amount of work it would take, you would literally have to translate every single line of code into a format AS understands, and then put it into the syntax acceptable by the language.

Not lines of code, instructions. For procedural languages like AS it'd be like three to ten instructions per line. There never will be because emulating a native executable is ridiculous, far moreso in Flash.

Like translating english to spanish through a computer, errors will be made and those errors will crash the program.

Hm no it's just not possible to translate native codes to Flash bytecode because it has more low-level instructions, so you'd have to emulate the system IN AS.

So, no, it isn't possible to convert an RPG Maker executable into an swf file, simple put, No.

I'd think it's as easy if not easier to export the Maker's source to Flash than an executable.

[KaynSlamdyke]

At 7/17/08 02:02 PM, GustTheASGuy wrote: I couldn't be arsed explaining this earlier but now you're just giving uneducated explanations.

Gust, while I applaud your explanation of how someone would code an RPG Maker to SWF tool, unless you're actually going to be the one to code it, you're not helping either

[stickmasta]

Well I mean if someone could help me code it It would help me a lot and since it seems like a lot of work
so co-author would be a must and if we could get it sponsored then help yourself to 50 percent.

Also just so people don't say "Hey you can't get a sponsor for an Rpg maker game it's illegal"
It's actually not if you buy the program well if anyone wants to then PM me.
I'll probably send Gust a PM since he seems really good with coding in flash

[GustTheASGuy]

At 7/17/08 05:35 PM, KaynSlamdyke wrote: Gust, while I applaud your explanation of how someone would code an RPG Maker to SWF tool, unless you're actually going to be the one to code it, you're not helping either

It's not my intention to help anyone, I'm adding to discussion.

[Doomsday-One]

At 7/18/08 06:23 AM, GustTheASGuy wrote: It's not my intention to help anyone

Best comment ever on a Flash help topic.

On a more serious note, don't expect much help. It would take an absolute age to make something of that scale. And if you were to, you wouldn't be unwise to suspect being sued for copyright infringement.

So sorry, but you're going to have to make an entire RPG code from scratch if you want a .swf of your game.
But if you do that, you'll probably get more help =)

[Deathcon7]

At 7/17/08 02:02 PM, GustTheASGuy wrote: I couldn't be arsed explaining this earlier but now you're just giving uneducated explanations.

Hmm... late to the argument but for the sake of defending my position I think this is worth the bump.

At 7/17/08 01:42 PM, Deathcon7 wrote: It's impossible.

Very apparently possible. Like launching an elephant into space.

Do you think launching an elephant into space is possible? It'd take a lot of resources, but as it stands, the animal wouldn't survive the trip, so really whats the point?

The reliance on image files in RPG maker, and trying to convert that into flash, will create such a large file that it wouldn't be a good idea anyway.

Erm SWFs are designed to contain images and would in fact compress.

Well, let me put it this way then, the file size will be too large for newgrounds. Submitting it here is obviously his goal and he won't be able to do that even if he did find a way to convert the file.

Also, the programming, the controls, and everything else involved with the program is not written in AS, meaning that you'd have to find a program to convert the programming into AS so that flash player could read it.

Actually it's that EXEs contain native opcodes as opposed to AVM bytecode. Not AS.

If you parden my oversight I was refering to the fact that RPG maker uses Ruby for it's programming, which isn't AS.

There is no such thing, and there never will be because of the amount of work it would take, you would literally have to translate every single line of code into a format AS understands, and then put it into the syntax acceptable by the language.

Not lines of code, instructions. For procedural languages like AS it'd be like three to ten instructions per line. There never will be because emulating a native executable is ridiculous, far moreso in Flash.

I think AS has advanced enough to at least call it an OOP, jeez. Anyways, we're still going back to my original argument although via different paths. For all intents and purposes, it's impossible, if and only if for the fact that no one will attempt programming such an application, as it'd be a great waste of time given RMXP's amateur following.

Like translating english to spanish through a computer, errors will be made and those errors will crash the program.

Hm no it's just not possible to translate native codes to Flash bytecode because it has more low-level instructions, so you'd have to emulate the system IN AS.

So, no, it isn't possible to convert an RPG Maker executable into an swf file, simple put, No.

I'd think it's as easy if not easier to export the Maker's source to Flash than an executable.

Although my argument is sloppy and contains a few holes I think on the whole it's a good position to take in a thread like this. Trying to break it down into discussions of opcodes vs avm bytecode and how they don't relate, or the principles of emulating executables, won't help the situation and on the whole will fly over most peoples' heads.

So, let's try to contain our egos and let things slide. No need to call out a fellow regular on something so small. At the very least PM me if I offended your superior intellect.

And besides, even if I was completely wrong who cares? I don't know if you've ever used RPG Maker before, but it's a tool a lot of kids use to create cookie-cutter rpg games. There are a few diamonds in the rough, but for the large part they all utilize the default RTP package for graphics and sfx, and hardly stride from the Final Fantasy formula. So I wouldn't be hurting anyone if I inadvertanly lied to this kid. He'd be better off learning an actual programming language that can potentially get him somewhere in life. I'm not saying that Ruby is not good for what it's used, just that the program forms a lot of bad habits. Trust, I would know. I'm a victim of them.

[GustTheASGuy]

At 7/24/08 11:02 PM, Deathcon7 wrote: Hmm... late to the argument but for the sake of defending my position I think this is worth the bump.

I sure like arguing. Sufferrrrr.

Well, let me put it this way then, the file size will be too large for newgrounds. Submitting it here is obviously his goal and he won't be able to do that even if he did find a way to convert the file.

Ah his file was actually pretty small. Like 200kb. Guess there were only tiles and such.

If you parden my oversight I was referring to the fact that RPG maker uses Ruby for it's programming, which isn't AS.

Oh well Ruby would be much easier to translate.

I think AS has advanced enough to at least call it an OOP, jeez.

OOP is a way of organising functions while the style of execution is procedural which is what I was referring to what with all the instructions.

And besides, even if I was completely wrong who cares?

"Shoving things in your face since '05."

So I wouldn't be hurting anyone if I inadvertanly lied to this kid. He'd be better off learning an actual programming language that can potentially get him somewhere in life.

Well I actually agree to that idea. I don't think he's gonna though.

[Rustygames]

Battle of who is most misinformed. Go!

[GustTheASGuy]

Silence fool!

[KaynSlamdyke]

At 7/25/08 05:59 AM, GustTheASGuy wrote: Silence fool!

You. Go talk to dELta. Both of you work on an SWF RPG generator for the script kiddies fresh from RPG Maker, and to force the real devs to actually make decent RPGs in Flash to keep ahead.
Do something constructive with your summer kids.

[GustTheASGuy]

He's not online, that's the problem. Hiding from his girlfriend. >:D

[Deathcon7]

At 7/25/08 04:38 AM, GustTheASGuy wrote:

And besides, even if I was completely wrong who cares?

"Shoving things in your face since '05."

Yes, I'll stay, even though you're an asshole. But only because I love you...