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At 7/18/08 03:06 PM, Gunter45 wrote:

At 7/18/08 02:29 PM, Memorize wrote: Love the French logic.

"We're trying to ease the relationship with muslims in this country"

"Muslim woman wanting citizenship? Denied"

Because allowing more of the culture that's clashing with theirs in is better?

Or, you know, it could further strain the relationship even more when the Muslim communities take note that the government is selectively choosing who and who isn't granted citizenship, primarily based on religion. Or more specifically: Their religion.

At 7/18/08 04:00 PM, Memorize wrote: Or, you know, it could further strain the relationship even more when the Muslim communities take note that the government is selectively choosing who and who isn't granted citizenship, primarily based on religion. Or more specifically: Their religion.

As opposed to them pushing their set of laws on the government and having the numbers and the political clout to do it?

This is called nipping a problem in the bud and, actually, the only reason this would escalate matters is if retarded people in the press make mountains out of mole hills about what the French government's responsibility to the world is, which they seem to be doing.

At 7/18/08 04:27 PM, Gunter45 wrote:

At 7/18/08 04:00 PM, Memorize wrote: Or, you know, it could further strain the relationship even more when the Muslim communities take note that the government is selectively choosing who and who isn't granted citizenship, primarily based on religion. Or more specifically: Their religion.

As opposed to them pushing their set of laws on the government and having the numbers and the political clout to do it?

Then disallow it.

Stop it.

You don't bar individuals just because of a few raudy others, especially when it could lead to even more tension.

If they want to stop it, then they sure do have a funny way of doing it. They'll allow Muslim law to be integrated into their country (causing strain), so their solution is to prevent citizenship?

Fascinating.

A Muslim man's only achievement in life is being born with a dick in one hand and a Qur'an in the other.
Which OBVIOUSLY gives him dominance and right over all women.

At 7/19/08 12:40 AM, CousinIt wrote: A Muslim man's only achievement in life is being born with a dick in one hand and a Qur'an in the other.
Which OBVIOUSLY gives him dominance and right over all women.

well the dick part does.

At 7/18/08 04:38 PM, Memorize wrote: If they want to stop it, then they sure do have a funny way of doing it. They'll allow Muslim law to be integrated into their country (causing strain), so their solution is to prevent citizenship?

Fascinating.

Just because it's an imperfect solution, that means it's no good? You realize they're straining the cultural divide no matter what they do. By allowing wholesale integration of everyone, regardless of whether or not they'll integrate, the problem gets worse and continues to do so. While stemming immigration may make things worse, it doesn't exponentially do so. Not only that, but it dilutes the other culture by allowing more people in who are willing to adapt to the French culture.

At least, that's the plan. Whether or not you think it's a good one doesn't mean France has any less right to implement it.

At 7/21/08 02:46 PM, Gunter45 wrote:

Just because it's an imperfect solution, that means it's no good? You realize they're straining the cultural divide no matter what they do. By allowing wholesale integration of everyone, regardless of whether or not they'll integrate, the problem gets worse and continues to do so. While stemming immigration may make things worse, it doesn't exponentially do so. Not only that, but it dilutes the other culture by allowing more people in who are willing to adapt to the French culture.

They are the ones who allowed them to integrate their own rule of law within their system.

Preventing citizenship is so very minute in comparison, and all it will ever do is cause more tension than that which has already been created (and brought about, in part, by the French Government).