The Real Inconvenient Truth

[Chavic]

Al Gore's energy usage in his mansion increased 20% during 2007, despite installing solar panels and energy-efficient light bulbs.
He now uses 50% more energy in one month than the average American uses in the entire year.

Hypocrite much?
How can anyone believe this man's bullshit?

[birdwing]

At 7/9/08 08:13 PM, Chavic wrote: How can anyone believe this man's bullshit?

stupidity my friend... pure stupidity.

[SolInvictus]

because Al Gore invented the environment?

[Memorize]

He's like... A thief telling everyone not to steal...

[birdwing]

Check this out!!

Apparently (according to whats in the grayish green box..) Bush is Eco Friendly.

[AapoJoki]

It's pretty much the same thing as holding an international climate conference in Bali, Indonesia and having all the world leaders fly there in their private jets.

We're really lacking good role models in the fight against climate change. But when have politicians ever been good role models in anything at all?

[SadisticMonkey]

At 7/9/08 08:18 PM, SolInvictus wrote: because Al Gore invented the environment?

No, the answer we were looking for was 'Internets".

[Chavic]

At 7/9/08 09:11 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 7/9/08 08:18 PM, SolInvictus wrote: because Al Gore invented the environment?

No, the answer we were looking for was 'Internets".

Lolz, so true

[Prinzy2]

At 7/9/08 08:28 PM, AapoJoki wrote: It's pretty much the same thing as holding an international climate conference in Bali, Indonesia and having all the world leaders fly there in their private jets.

Well actually, jets are probably the most energy efficient mode of transportation out there, besides maybe a high speed magnet train or whatever they are.
Anyways, from this page, it says that the Gore household purchases their power from a local Green Power Switch program among all the other shit that is suppose to be eco friendly, then they throw money at what ever carbon footprint they leave, offsetting it to zero.

[Gunter45]

Damn that AlGore. Hoarding all the energy for himself.

[Chavic]

At 7/9/08 09:32 PM, Prinzy2 wrote:

At 7/9/08 08:28 PM, AapoJoki wrote:

Anyways, from this page, it says that the Gore household purchases their power from a local Green Power Switch program among all the other shit that is suppose to be eco friendly, then they throw money at what ever carbon footprint they leave, offsetting it to zero.

So if they pay to pollute, its OK?

[Prinzy2]

At 7/9/08 09:42 PM, Chavic wrote:

At 7/9/08 09:32 PM, Prinzy2 wrote:

At 7/9/08 08:28 PM, AapoJoki wrote:

Anyways, from this page, it says that the Gore household purchases their power from a local Green Power Switch program among all the other shit that is suppose to be eco friendly, then they throw money at what ever carbon footprint they leave, offsetting it to zero.

So if they pay to pollute, its OK?

Well you're going to pollute no matter what, it unavoidable.
They pay people to clean up whatever mess they make, it's like an environmental maid service.

[Memorize]

That's like paying a Church money for your future sins.

"Here's $100. Now, off to visit the prostitution ring!"

[Callojero777]

Leave it to Mr. Gore to pull the wool over my eyes

[SadisticMonkey]

At 7/9/08 08:18 PM, Memorize wrote: He's like... A thief telling everyone not to steal...

That's like telling people to save energy and then using a heap of energy.

Oh, wait. I'm not very good at this.

[birdwing]

At 7/9/08 09:57 PM, Prinzy2 wrote:

At 7/9/08 09:42 PM, Chavic wrote:

At 7/9/08 09:32 PM, Prinzy2 wrote:

At 7/9/08 08:28 PM, AapoJoki wrote:

Anyways, from this page, it says that the Gore household purchases their power from a local Green Power Switch program among all the other shit that is suppose to be eco friendly, then they throw money at what ever carbon footprint they leave, offsetting it to zero.

So if they pay to pollute, its OK?

Well you're going to pollute no matter what, it unavoidable.
They pay people to clean up whatever mess they make, it's like an environmental maid service.

accept for the fact that they don't have away to remove the carbon dioxide and all the other crap from the atmosphere so paying off your carbon footprint is like paying bush to run the country... its stupid and inefficient.

[Elfer]

At 7/9/08 08:18 PM, Memorize wrote: He's like... A thief telling everyone not to steal...

Absolutely. However, we shouldn't interpret this as meaning that it's okay to steal.

[ThePretenders]

Ah, the gas guzzling man is telling other people to cut energy consumption. If you want to save the world, I suggest you downgrade to a small family home and drive an eco friendly carm, before you tell us what to do. Fucking hypocrite.

[Shadowstepp]

thank god someone esle finally caught onto his bullshit and besides how do we know gobal warming is even true ? last winter was the clodest i've ever expinced in my 20 years

[cainine-k9]

Well he uses 50% more energy, but he buys enough carbon credits to offset it. However, no one actually knows if carbon credits actually do anything so it could be a huge scam

[Prinzy2]

At 7/10/08 08:42 AM, birdwing wrote:

At 7/9/08 09:57 PM, Prinzy2 wrote:

At 7/9/08 09:42 PM, Chavic wrote:

At 7/9/08 09:32 PM, Prinzy2 wrote:

At 7/9/08 08:28 PM, AapoJoki wrote:

Anyways, from this page, it says that the Gore household purchases their power from a local Green Power Switch program among all the other shit that is suppose to be eco friendly, then they throw money at what ever carbon footprint they leave, offsetting it to zero.

So if they pay to pollute, its OK?

Well you're going to pollute no matter what, it unavoidable.
They pay people to clean up whatever mess they make, it's like an environmental maid service.

accept for the fact that they don't have away to remove the carbon dioxide and all the other crap from the atmosphere so paying off your carbon footprint is like paying bush to run the country... its stupid and inefficient.

Lol I'm glad someone is finally making some sense.
I agree with you 100%, all this talk about carbon credits is stupid. You need carbon dioxide in your body, and plants need it to make food. I'm all for finding alternative fuels and making things more efficient, but let's go for something that's going to last another 100 years instead of switching every vehicle to a hybrid, then biofuel, then hydrogen, then electricity.

Same thing goes for finding ways to make electricity.

At 7/10/08 12:16 PM, cainine-k9 wrote: Well he uses 50% more energy, but he buys enough carbon credits to offset it. However, no one actually knows if carbon credits actually do anything so it could be a huge scam

Pretty much is. I know non-developed countries can sell carbon credits to developed countries.
So I'd say it's pretty much a scam as well.

[n64kid]

At 7/9/08 08:18 PM, SolInvictus wrote: because Al Gore invented the environment?

Here's another inconvenient truth. Nixon started the EPA. Thank you to both parties for being pro environment.

Lyndon Johnson (D) Democratic Congress
1967 -- Air Quality Act (AQA)

Richard Nixon (R) Democratic Congress
1969 -- National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA)
1970 -- Major amendments to AQA
1970 -- EPA created
1972 -- Clean Water Act (passed over veto)
1972 -- Amendments to Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act
(FIFRA)*

Gerald Ford (R) Democratic Congress
1974 -- Safewater Drinking Act (SWDA)
1975 -- FIFRA amendments

Jimmy Carter (D) Democratic Congress
1976 -- RCRA
1976 -- Toxic Substances Control Act
1978 -- FIFRA amendments
1980 -- CERCLA/Superfund Act
1980 -- More FIFRA amendments

Ronald Reagan (R) Democratic House/Republican Senate
1984 -- Hazardous and Solid Waste Amendments
1986 --SARA Title III/Emergency Planning and Community Right-to-Know Act
1986 --SDWA Amendments
1987 --Water Quality Act (CWA Amendments)
1988 -- FIFRA Amendments
1990 -- Clean Air Act Amendments (major changes)
1990 -- Federal Pollution Prevention Act (PPA)
1990 -- Oil Pollution Act

George H.W. Bush (R) Democratic Congress
1992 -- Federal Facility Compliance Act

Bill Clinton (D) Republican Congress (starting in 1995)
1994 -- The Browner Common Sense Initiative

George W. Bush (R) Republican Congress
2002 -- Great Lakes Legacy Act

[Gunter45]

Carbon credits, good God. There's no way to get rid of the CO2 in the atmosphere, currently. You can't exactly get a big vacuum and suck it all out provided you have the money for it.

That's more along the lines of killing someone and then paying them restitution.

[Korriken]

carbon credits is the way that the rich get to keep on with their lavish lifestyle without drawing the ire of the people they are telling to be more modest in their energy consumption. It also allows 3rd world dictators without huge industrial plants and millions of cars to benefit by selling off "carbon credits". To me this is about the same as bashing in mailboxes, then leaving some money on the neighbor's doorstep. the mailbox is still destroyed.

[SmilezRoyale]

At 7/10/08 08:58 AM, Elfer wrote:

At 7/9/08 08:18 PM, Memorize wrote: He's like... A thief telling everyone not to steal...

Absolutely. However, we shouldn't interpret this as meaning that it's okay to steal.

Absolutely, we should interpret it as; How much does this individual really care about what they are preaching?

[CommanderX1125]

At 7/10/08 11:03 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote:

At 7/10/08 08:58 AM, Elfer wrote:

At 7/9/08 08:18 PM, Memorize wrote: He's like... A thief telling everyone not to steal...

Absolutely. However, we shouldn't interpret this as meaning that it's okay to steal.

Absolutely, we should interpret it as; How much does this individual really care about what they are preaching?

It has been my humble experience that roughly 99.9% of what people preach, they themselves do.

[Ravariel]

At 7/10/08 11:03 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote:

At 7/10/08 08:58 AM, Elfer wrote:

At 7/9/08 08:18 PM, Memorize wrote: He's like... A thief telling everyone not to steal...

Absolutely. However, we shouldn't interpret this as meaning that it's okay to steal.

Absolutely, we should interpret it as; How much does this individual really care about what they are preaching?

Does it matter? Does a fat doctor telling you that you need to lose weight make it okay to ignore his advice?

Is he right? Yeah, probably.

Is he a hypocrite? Yeah, a bit.

Is he right? If so, then what's the matter?

[Alphabit]

Carbon credits are bullshit.
Some types of farms where they harvest fruit or palm oil are eligible to sell carbon credits... But think about it; a lot of these farms had to clear large forested areas to make their plantations in the first place. Essentially, carbon credits are useless.

[morefngdbs]

At 7/12/08 09:09 AM, Alphabit wrote: Carbon credits are bullshit.

;;;
C'mon guy's surely your not that stupid & or naive , this is simply another way for the Government to TAX us ! Got F*&^ All to do with the enviorment...it's just a smokescreen for a new Tax !

Essentially, carbon credits are useless.

Exactly, there is no possible way carbon based life forms can totally get rid of CARBON ! Sure we may have an overabundence, & cutting back on certain activities may be the way to cut this...but just how does a new tax help anything ?

[Chavic]

At 7/12/08 06:02 AM, Ravariel wrote: Does it matter? Does a fat doctor telling you that you need to lose weight make it okay to ignore his advice?

Is he right? Yeah, probably.

Is he a hypocrite? Yeah, a bit.

Is he right? If so, then what's the matter?

If he doesn't follow what he preaches, then obviously he doens't believe in what he is saying. If "global warming" is such a problem, he would certainly follow his own advice. But he doesn't believe in it because its absolute bullshit.

He just likes to be in the public limelight and make loads of cash.
If he doesn't believe in what he says, then the only reason for this "huge" outcry against global warming is that it is a cashcow. If he really believed that the ice caps are going to melt and flood most of the world then he would follow his own advice.