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poxpower "Mostly I hate the signatures that are like 40 lines long."

I generally don't like sigs and almost never use them. I only created the one I use here because it's the only customization this board offers. Usually the avatar is the biggest reflection of personal identity, and most people customize them, but here we have only those "level" things. I'm finding I don't even want to progress a level. I like the avatar I've got. I don't much care for bloody weapons, but that thing just looks like a Hook 'Em Horns sign.

poxpower "Like, who gives a shit if you can make your text bigger or red?"

You know, I never thought to try, but...

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poxpower "Only thing that annoys me is how you can't edit posts, can't sticky and can't post many images in a single post. That would come in handy a lot of times."

Not being able to edit is the absolute worst. As for the inability to post multiple images, I had simply assumed that the board's software disallowed all HTML besides those four basic tags, but does it? I guess I'll find out when I post this.

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Well, that answered that. Yes, the board's software disallows font tags, at least.

What about image links...

<img src="http://racook.com/offsite/autobahn.
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I'll bet that doesn't work either.

I don't understand why the author of this software would disallow it though. Uploading images to the Newgrounds server, which IS allowed, seems like the crazier option. Newgrounds' disk space must be eaten up with thousands of useless images.

I guess if you host thousands of Flash files, little JPEGs and GIFs are no big deal.

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At 7/8/08 11:17 AM, marchohare wrote: How about something original, something I haven't seen yet, like "Why I Support NAMBLA"?

I don't, but it might be good for a few laughs.

...actually I kinda find it amusing to take the devil's advocate position on shit like that and KP... people's reactions to rational arguments on the subject are always fun to watch.

Tis better to sit in silence and be presumed a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

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I think that most of the reason behind disallowing most html tags is that they want to avoid some of the more annoying spamtastic things that flood other boards like Java bombs, excessive use of frames and borders and font sizes... all of which I'm down for. The no edit thing is annoying, especially because I'm kinda anal about my spelling and grammar, but again, it's nice that people can't just go back and change what they said in order to avoid taking credit for the stupid shit they say... not as nice as fixing stuff would be, but meh.

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At 7/8/08 12:18 PM, marchohare wrote:
but here we have only those "level" things.

I love that shit haha.
Of course I've been at it for a while now so... Didn't think I'd still be doing this like 8 years later.

aaaaaaaaaanyways.

Not being able to edit is the absolute worst.

well it just makes the forum more "stable".
No kids deleting and changing their posts left and right creating mayhem. Because they would, trust me, this would get out of hand pretty fast and just become really annoying.

The "no edit" thing is only annoying for first posts in topics because you can't update it later on. Pretty annoying :O


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So, I'm confused here. Have we decided whether or not the BBS was created by God or if it evolved from simpler html tags and scripts?

Think you're pretty clever...

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At 7/8/08 01:29 PM, Gunter45 wrote: So, I'm confused here. Have we decided whether or not the BBS was created by God or if it evolved from simpler html tags and scripts?

If you God, you mean: Tom, Jim, Stamper

And if by "simpler html tags" you mean: 'God' meddling with it.

Then yes to both.


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At 7/8/08 01:48 PM, Memorize wrote: If you God, you mean: Tom, Jim, Stamper

But who made them? Surely they couldn't have coded themselves.

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At 7/8/08 01:58 PM, Gunter45 wrote:
At 7/8/08 01:48 PM, Memorize wrote: If you God, you mean: Tom, Jim, Stamper
But who made them? Surely they couldn't have coded themselves.

Tom has always been


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At 7/8/08 01:58 PM, Gunter45 wrote:
At 7/8/08 01:48 PM, Memorize wrote: If you God, you mean: Tom, Jim, Stamper
But who made them? Surely they couldn't have coded themselves.

And surely the html code didn't pop up on its own.

And here we have a never-ending supply of "who dun it?"


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At 7/8/08 02:42 PM, Memorize wrote: And surely the html code didn't pop up on its own.

And here we have a never-ending supply of "who dun it?"

We're not discussing the origin of the html code. We're merely discussing how it developed into the BBS.

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At 7/8/08 02:49 PM, Gunter45 wrote:
We're not discussing the origin of the html code. We're merely discussing how it developed into the BBS.

You mentioned God (being Tom). Obviously he is the origin of the BBS and its development.


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At 7/8/08 04:48 PM, Memorize wrote: You mentioned God (being Tom). Obviously he is the origin of the BBS and its development.

With enough time, a self-duplicating HTML code could blossom into the BBS with the right e-vironmental pressures. It's unnecessary bringing Tom into the equation, when history shows html was born almost at the dawn of the internet.

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At 7/8/08 04:56 PM, Earfetish wrote: With enough time, a self-duplicating HTML code could blossom into the BBS with the right e-vironmental pressures. It's unnecessary bringing Tom into the equation, when history shows html was born almost at the dawn of the internet.

We have fossil records of many extinct BBS's that show the development of the BBS over the history of the internet which prove this.

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Funny how people bring up "God" but then say "we're not talking about the origin".

lol.

Naturally, you do realize we can see all of the history of the BBS, and we know Tom is God (lolz).


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wanna hear something funny, of my teachers in middle school said that more and more scientists are considering intelligent design as a possibility, as far as im converned thats pretty much reversing all research done in the last 200 years, and as a result they arent really scientists their quitters. As far as I'm concerned, my argument against intelligent design is as so:

1: its true that if god or allah or whatever didnt create the universe, then what did is a good counterpoint, but for something to create the universe it has to have been created as well, therefore that question can be repeated a hundred times and no answer can be found

2: Mankind and indeed all creatures have a natural fear of death, apparently according to christianity animals have no eternal souls, so their fear of death is rational, however mankind shares this fear, and no amount of afterlife promises have removed it. In fact the most rational religion in that regard is Buddism, which works on reincarnation, therefore making your current incarnations fear of death logical, but it still leaves too many questions unanswered.

3. Carbon dating, ALL religions view the earth as thousands of years old, but science places earth's age at hundreds of millions of years, and is physical, tangible proof for evolution, where as
intelligent design relies on faith for its argument.

Thats just the way it is, note that I have used to anit church linguo, and this is not meant as an attack on the church, this is just stating how my beleifs conflict with theirs and why I have decided against intelligent design.

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The whole thing about ID that gets me is that they only say "certain aspects" were created by an intelligent deity of some kind.

For example lets say evolution is taking place 30 million years ago. And humans are developing Bipedolism but there is no big toe. The " intellgent being" watching over us all puts the big toe on our feet viola intelligent design.

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hey , marchohare why dont you be a good noob and just use the fucking wuote button like everyone else


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Damn, what a shame this thread has gone on-topic again.

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At 7/8/08 07:59 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: hey , marchohare why dont you be a good noob and just use the fucking wuote button like everyone else

does it really piss you off that much.

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At 7/8/08 08:42 PM, Earfetish wrote: Damn, what a shame this thread has gone on-topic again.

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Bout to say the same thing ;(

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Dante-Son-Of-Sparda: "hey , marchohare why dont you be a good noob and just use the fucking wuote button like everyone else"

I don't negotiate with rude, demanding children.

How about you learning the magic of correct spelling, punctuation and capitalization instead?

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At 7/8/08 11:54 PM, marchohare wrote: How about you learning the magic of correct spelling, punctuation and capitalization instead?

LOL


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At 7/8/08 10:05 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote:
At 7/8/08 08:42 PM, Earfetish wrote: Damn, what a shame this thread has gone on-topic again.

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Bout to say the same thing ;(

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At 7/8/08 11:54 PM, marchohare wrote: Dante-Son-Of-Sparda: "hey , marchohare why dont you be a good noob and just use the fucking wuote button like everyone else"

I don't negotiate with rude, demanding children.

How do you deal with God?

...and the non-conventional quoting thing probably helps march construct his posts better by slowing him down enough to avoid kiddie-errors that scream, "my post sukz0rz!!one".

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At 7/8/08 07:59 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: hey , marchohare why dont you be a good noob and just use the fucking wuote button like everyone else

Since he brings far more to the table than a troll such as yourself, I'll hypothesize.

Maybe his eyes aren't in perfect shape and he can't see the colon? That's a more likely idea than him not wanting to use the button.

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I tell you, I am just so sick of everyone who just denies evolution and are willing to take it so far as to make it so that you can't teach evolution in schools. We must teach intelligent design. Makes my skin crawl! Bet these people don't believe in gravity either! The truth is that evolution is a FACT! Pure and simple. We have all the proof you need. Fossils, genetics, did you know that on the genetic level humans and chimpanzees are 97% the same? We are indeed so close that no, you can't crossbreed humans and chimps, but you can, however do blood transfusions from chimps to humans and vise versa as long as their from the same blood type. Thing is, the field of vision of the religious community is limited by their belief that the earth is the center of the universe, and it's only 5,000 years old, whereas the scientific community's vision is limitless by our vast knowledge and unquenchable thirst for even more knowledge and their never ending quest to better ourselves. We will never find a perfect balance between science and religion, and in the end we will have to put all our trust in SCIENCE! Seriously, what are you gonna do when you need a new heart? Pray for a new heart? No you're gonna want to trust science to get you a new heart.

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Intelligent design is flawed.

It assumes a source in line with a human sort of intelligence. What is a mind? We're the only ones with such a thing as far as we know.

Why would the source not be, perhaps an insentient organism? Some other sort of source of energy?

Oh yeah and this also is all terminal to just our universe.

Why don't we extend the questions further this time, if you know what I mean.

you probably don't.
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At 7/8/08 10:11 AM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote:
If you really do want to believe, I'm sure you would've had some divine inspiration by now, sadly you haven't, that is why I pray for you even if you call me names and insult my beliefs.
Because of who I am and because of my relationship with my creator, I can honestly say that I still love you guys and that I would die to save you if needed, even though I'm though on you n say things i don't mean.

This'll prolly be the last antichrist thread I reply to, cuz honestly I can't stand reading the negative comments lol, so peace out everyone, God bless.

How many times must I say this? I AM A CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN. I go to mass every sunday, I study in a Catholic School.

In my school, evolution is taught in SCIENCE. My religion teacher even said that Genesis isn't supposed to be taken literally, and it answers not HOW God made us but WHY.

Piss off.


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At 7/9/08 01:34 AM, Jaketheclonetrooper wrote: How many times must I say this? I AM A CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN. I go to mass every sunday, I study in a Catholic School.

In my school, evolution is taught in SCIENCE. My religion teacher even said that Genesis isn't supposed to be taken literally, and it answers not HOW God made us but WHY.

See, now this is exactly how it should be.

Intelligent Design is not science. It must be taken on faith that some supernatural force is responsible for natural phenomena. That's not science. In no way is that an acceptable hypothesis by any stretch of the imagination. Science does not work on belief. Everyone on the planet could believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth, but that wouldn't make it so.

However, I think if people are curious to learn more about their religion or another religion, then they have their right to do so, as well. There is nothing that says public schools can't teach religion, just so long as they don't get hung up on, or detract from any one religion. With religion being such a huge issue, in America especially, I think there should be a broad religion class offered as an elective in high schools.

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At 7/8/08 04:55 AM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote: Wow, the people on this site realy have some major issues, first you tell us that we came from rocks because everything in this universe is made up of the same material n came out of pure randomness and mistakes, that means this argument is by mistake, you were born by mistake and you exist by mistake, that is what you re saying.

we arent born by mistake dumbass its chance we believe in no mistakes interpret it how u will

If you want to believe that you have no purpose in life then fine, but don't go saying it is more logical or scientifically proven cuz it isn't, you people are the parasites of this world.

we aren't parasites we just feel we need to work for our selves not some "selfless" god

Please close this stupid thread and never make another stupid post like this again, stop trying to push your stupid beliefs cuz the only thing ur doing is making it worse.

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Natural selection huh? Looks like you are one of the psychotic bastards who will end up shooting up a school cuz they were bullied n made fun of, you are not the one who decides who live n dies, you are the slave of your own belief, if you were murdered tomorrow you would be comforted by the idea of no longer existing, coward.

we wouldn't kill any one we have morals and only a small fraction of us belive we cease to exist i m one of those

You forget that this world was created whatever created it was intelligent and has always been there, cause and effect you brainwashed retard.

we're brainwashed... we came to our beliefs by thought not cause our mommies and daddies say big bad god will punish us for not beliving in him

You say a big bang created the universes, where did the energy come from? What caused the explosion?
You will never answer those question with anything more than bullshit, you were not there, scienrtists cannot redo and study the event, you have no proof.

we can and will and btw the energy was prolly the gravity and magnetic forces such a highly compact ball of matter would create somthing like a sun execpt more powerful

Evolution is a fake piece of shit mixed with cherry picked science facts put in to push the belief, fossils don't prove evolution, they prove there was a flood that buried countless animals and plants with sediment, that is also why there are mammoths frozen standing up. if you took the time to look at the other side maybe you wouldn't be so fucking retarded and forceful to push your lies.

k i was a christian for 14 years of my life ive seen ure side do u really belive 3 billion years of history and animals that died at different time would be killed in one flood

In closing Atheism requires as much faith as actually believing, you cannot and will never prove a nonexistence of something you know nothing about, we are not the masters of this world.
To say there is no God reinforces the fact that thee must be because you simply do not know, you aren't arguing either, you are stating a religious belief, not Scientific fact, you know nothing about God and therefore have no impact on the reality that God exists.

k um u cant prove it either um sry but we're even here

Tell your stupid shit to someone who cares, the only thing you people live for is to argue with people who believe in god, you lose every time, go chew on some beef jerky and cry in your dog cage cuz that is all you can do in your own belief, animals live in harmony in their environment, they do not destroy it, that is proof enough that humans are not apart of the natural balance of this world meaning to me that the story of Adam and Eve is true, God created us in his image, they disobeyed them and we today inherit ther sin.

if u were't here to post u wouldn't care but u are so its a moot point

Is that fair? Yes it certainly is, God allows us to choose to disobey him and allows bad things to happen because of our disobedience, is that fair? Yes, you going to Hell for not believing, is that fair? Yes.

GROW THE FUCK UP STUPID EMO KIDS!

k um hell is out dated and sry g2g


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