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Also you assumed I carried an attitude that was in no way represented by my posts at all. If anything I tried to indicate that I did not carry that sort of attitude.

At 7/3/08 01:29 AM, Black-Chaos wrote: I'd laugh is this causes a big moving rush to California. Sort of like the gold rush, except for weed.

Haha, weed rush- that's catchy.

weed is good, liquor is quicker, but Salvia is da shizz

At 7/6/08 01:37 AM, Institutionalized wrote:
Haha, weed rush- that's catchy.

Except that california isn't the only state ready to legalize it. Or decriminalize I think.

At 7/6/08 01:40 AM, Emergence wrote: weed is good, liquor is quicker, but Salvia is da shizz

Are you a salvia addict? I would love to meet a salvia addict.

Hey life did you catch kolohe being an idiot on the last page. Haha.

Silly kolohe and his assumptions.

At 7/6/08 11:32 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: Silly kolohe and his assumptions.

Nope...

At 7/4/08 02:23 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: More like weed doesn't kill you at all what so ever kolohe.
May I also point out the relevant fact that the only damaging thing about smoking pot is the smoke.

Yes, the effects of weed have never been connected to traffic fatality. EVER

More like, you were wrong and got your panties in a bunch about it. Good job Jr!

At 7/6/08 12:18 PM, Kolohe wrote:

At 7/6/08 11:32 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: Silly kolohe and his assumptions.

Nope...

At 7/4/08 02:23 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: More like weed doesn't kill you at all what so ever kolohe.
May I also point out the relevant fact that the only damaging thing about smoking pot is the smoke.

Yes, the effects of weed have never been connected to traffic fatality. EVER

More like, you were wrong and got your panties in a bunch about it. Good job Jr!

I disagree with your argument about driving high. It's a lot easier to drive high than it is even only after having two beers. I don't suggest doing either, but you make it look like cannabis is the worse choice here.

This is why I like my state.

At 7/6/08 12:24 PM, life wrote: I disagree with your argument about driving high. It's a lot easier to drive high than it is even only after having two beers. I don't suggest doing either, but you make it look like cannabis is the worse choice here.

My main point is that there are other dangers associated with pot besides the inhalation of smoke (if that's how you consume it). Is driving high better or worse than drinking and driving? I don't know, but the the CD player can be pretty fucking distracting when your high.

As you well know, drugs effect different people in different ways. It's cool that you can pull off driving after a few tokes, but I can't and I wouldn't advise anyone to try it. Either way, drunk or high, you shouldn't be behind the wheel.

At 7/6/08 12:35 PM, Kolohe wrote:

At 7/6/08 12:24 PM, life wrote: I disagree with your argument about driving high. It's a lot easier to drive high than it is even only after having two beers. I don't suggest doing either, but you make it look like cannabis is the worse choice here.

My main point is that there are other dangers associated with pot besides the inhalation of smoke (if that's how you consume it). Is driving high better or worse than drinking and driving? I don't know, but the the CD player can be pretty fucking distracting when your high.

No there isn't. Cannabis shouldn't be blamed for a person's actions. If someone tries driving high then you're introducing a whole new danger: an automobile. It's not the weeds' fault, it's the person that would get into a car while high. I'll predict what you say next: "You just said you drive high". Yes I have before and I'm a complete idiot for doing that. It wasn't a hard thing to do, but I don't ever plan on doing it again. Pure cannabis use with out the introduction of other factors like an automobile shouldn't be counted as a danger because it's the person's fault, not the drug itself. Especially in a country where a much more impairing intoxicant is legally sold.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/MISC /driving/driving2.htm

http://www.roads.dft.gov.uk/roadsafety/r esearch16

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/ca nnabis_driving4.shtml

At 7/6/08 12:58 PM, life wrote: No there isn't. Cannabis shouldn't be blamed for a person's actions. If someone tries driving high then you're introducing a whole new danger: an automobile. It's not the weeds' fault, it's the person that would get into a car while high. I'll predict what you say next: "You just said you drive high". Yes I have before and I'm a complete idiot for doing that. It wasn't a hard thing to do, but I don't ever plan on doing it again. Pure cannabis use with out the introduction of other factors like an automobile shouldn't be counted as a danger because it's the person's fault, not the drug itself. Especially in a country where a much more impairing intoxicant is legally sold.

Great, I wasn't blaming the pot for his actions. I'm blaming pot for creating his inability to drive safely. Did the pot effect his judgment when deciding to drive? Probably, but it's not like you completely loose control when you're high, so he knew what he was doing. I'm only pointing out that the worst thing about it is the fact that it's an intoxicant, and a lot of people don't treat it accordingly.

If you discount the effect that pot has to cause idiots to act foolishly as a negative, then that's your opinion. In the case of alcohol, most parents aren't worried that their kids are going to die from alcohol poisoning, they are worried that they are going to do something fucking stupid when they're drunk. Does that mean we should criminalize alcohol? Hell no, but to say that doing stupid shit when your drunk because your judgment is impaired isn't a negative, to me, is ridiculous. I mean, to say that DUI fatalities are not a negative effect of alcohol consumption... Please.

So, people sometimes do not use their best judgment when high. This certainly isn't a qualification for criminalization, but I personally wouldn't discount it completely, as you seem to.

At 7/6/08 02:22 PM, Kolohe wrote:

At 7/6/08 12:58 PM, life wrote: No there isn't. Cannabis shouldn't be blamed for a person's actions. If someone tries driving high then you're introducing a whole new danger: an automobile. It's not the weeds' fault, it's the person that would get into a car while high. I'll predict what you say next: "You just said you drive high". Yes I have before and I'm a complete idiot for doing that. It wasn't a hard thing to do, but I don't ever plan on doing it again. Pure cannabis use with out the introduction of other factors like an automobile shouldn't be counted as a danger because it's the person's fault, not the drug itself. Especially in a country where a much more impairing intoxicant is legally sold.

Great, I wasn't blaming the pot for his actions.

"My main point is that there are other dangers associated with pot besides the inhalation of smoke "

Then don't say that. If we throw the impaired driving out of playing field, does cannabis have any health risk when not smoked? When you stack this up next to alcohol it's insane that one is legal and the other isn't.

lmfao wut? sounds way to good to be true, but if it gets legalized here, that'd be rad. either way im still gonna smoke it, it doesnt really matter if its legal or not lmao

Wow, just...wow. Californians are fucked up anyway.

At 7/6/08 02:55 PM, MudkipsPiano wrote: Wow, just...wow. Californians are fucked up anyway.

omg i kno righ. its leik ppl r so dum dont they kno dat weed maks u see hella shit and that will mak u go crazy also it maks u dum cuz the smoke goes 2 ur brain when ur hallucinating. all stoners do is stare at their wall cuz they see a dinosaur or sumthing. im glad my parents taught me abot drugs so that i can becam the cool kid i am today

this is almost as bad as california lettin THE GAYS get MARRIED- i meen do they WANT 2 spread AIDS all over the place or wat?

At 7/6/08 03:00 PM, MadCow wrote:

At 7/6/08 02:55 PM, MudkipsPiano wrote: Wow, just...wow. Californians are fucked up anyway.

omg i kno righ. its leik ppl r so dum dont they kno dat weed maks u see hella shit and that will mak u go crazy also it maks u dum cuz the smoke goes 2 ur brain when ur hallucinating. all stoners do is stare at their wall cuz they see a dinosaur or sumthing. im glad my parents taught me abot drugs so that i can becam the cool kid i am today

this is almost as bad as california lettin THE GAYS get MARRIED- i meen do they WANT 2 spread AIDS all over the place or wat?

Hey man, I'm not saying all californians are bad, and I'm not saying I type like spanish preps as well. It's just that the last time I went to Southern California there were waaaay too many fuck ups. Hippies, emos/goths, psychos-- and now they're legalizing weed so that they don't get sued for banning it but sued for people killing each other.

At 7/6/08 02:32 PM, life wrote: Then don't say that. If we throw the impaired driving out of playing field, does cannabis have any health risk when not smoked? When you stack this up next to alcohol it's insane that one is legal and the other isn't.

Yes, I completely agree that it's insane that it's a crime to posses or consume marijuana when alcohol is perfectly acceptable.

Yes, pot is about a billion times safer than alcohol; we all know that. In my opinion, denying that there are other risks associated with pot besides health risks is, well, irresponsible. I know you're not denying that there are other risks, it just seems that you don't think that they should be a factor in the criminalization of pot... I think. Anyways, I don't think they should be either.

The only reason to highlight these risks is to show people what can happen if you act foolish with drugs. Anyone who doesn't take the time to learn about what they're doing is setting themselves up. Maybe you just take the stance that the stupid shall be punished.

At 7/6/08 12:35 PM, Kolohe wrote:

At 7/6/08 12:24 PM, life wrote: I disagree with your argument about driving high. It's a lot easier to drive high than it is even only after having two beers. I don't suggest doing either, but you make it look like cannabis is the worse choice here.

My main point is that there are other dangers associated with pot besides the inhalation of smoke (if that's how you consume it).

My main point is that I agree with you pretty much but you don't seem to realize that. Maybe that's because you didn't read all of my posts maybe?

And also saying that something causes someone to do something is retarded. The only thing that causes anyone to do something is that PERSON who is doing it. Their brain. Their decision.

Fuck.

I love how kolohe said the same thing I did but tacked on a perspective that lends to the light that I am not sharing that same thing.

How silly.

At 7/6/08 12:24 PM, life wrote: I disagree with your argument about driving high. It's a lot easier to drive high than it is even only after having two beers. I don't suggest doing either, but you make it look like cannabis is the worse choice here.

Atleast someone here knows what he's talking about

At 7/3/08 01:28 AM, Me-Patch wrote: Maybe we can get ultra super-dooper lucky and this will somehow lead to a supreme court ruling for national decriminalisation, or at least states rights on it.

Hope fully =]

If it passes or not, people are gonna do it a lot anyway.

This would defeat the entire purpose of The OC if this passes. The entire show was doing drugs and drinking beer, while getting in a heap of trouble. If mary jane is legalized, then it has no point. TV has a point?

At 7/6/08 06:46 PM, Epicness wrote: This would defeat the entire purpose of The OC if this passes. The entire show was doing drugs and drinking beer, while getting in a heap of trouble. If mary jane is legalized, then it has no point. TV has a point?

The OC sucked anyways. It will add a twist to it. Maybe they'll all become heroin addicts and commit suicide.

At 7/6/08 07:04 PM, Hellraiser wrote:

At 7/6/08 06:46 PM, Epicness wrote: This would defeat the entire purpose of The OC if this passes. The entire show was doing drugs and drinking beer, while getting in a heap of trouble. If mary jane is legalized, then it has no point. TV has a point?

The OC sucked anyways. It will add a twist to it. Maybe they'll all become heroin addicts and commit suicide.

Yeah, The OC did suck (they stopped making it you know right?), now the from The OC is in a slightly different place in 90210, but they'll just copy The OC of course but market it as slightly newer.

Hi guise.

I'm so high, this is amazing new LOL

legalizing it could create a larger revenue for the state

At 7/6/08 03:50 PM, JackPhantasm wrote: And also saying that something causes someone to do something is retarded. The only thing that causes anyone to do something is that PERSON who is doing it. Their brain. Their decision.

Fuck.

Yes Jack, let's repeal all gun control legislation while we're at it. Guns can't murder somebody unless some dipshit PERSON decides to pull the trigger. Right?