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It should be banned from most public places, and at the very least have a separated, designated area for people who smoke.

I don't care if you want to wreck your body, but don't make the choice for me.

i think people (none smokers) are pussies to not walk away from a smoker.

At 7/1/08 05:25 PM, videogamer0810 wrote:

At 7/1/08 05:21 PM, Loki1285 wrote: Your one of those pieces of shit who cries like a little bitch everytime you see someone with a cigarette but you can't stop stuffing your fat ass with food.

It's cute how you have to try so hard to compensate for your microscopic penis.

haha, yep it's easier to play with in public that way. Eat another cheeseburger fat ass.

At 7/1/08 05:26 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:

At 7/1/08 05:17 PM, Prinzy2 wrote: The U.S banned alcohol and organized crime flourished. What they should do, it legalize everything, and tax the shit out of it.

On the surface this seems like a good idea, but if something like heroin were legalised, addicts would still rob and kill people for money to pay for their drugs. Criminal organisations would thrive by selling heroin to the addicts slightly cheaper than what the government is asking. Also, heroin comes from places like North Korea, so by allowing it we'd be fuelling sinister countries.

You're right, I didn't think that through at all. Bah!

Anyways, I was watching a documentary on Pot a few weeks ago, and some politician was saying that. I think it was made when Canada was on the verge of decriminalizing or legalizing pot. It was called the Prince of Pot or something. It was actually enjoyable to watch, even if it was basically a bunch of potheads screaming out anti-American stuff lmao.

At 7/1/08 05:25 PM, ToastedCupcake wrote:

At 7/1/08 05:23 PM, Grammar-Nazi wrote: I don't smoke, but banning it would be pointless. Weed is illegal but people use it just as much, if not more.

Marijuana is illegal because the US can't make any profit from it.

No need to spread that gay liberal shit on me.

At 7/1/08 05:23 PM, Prinzy2 wrote:

At 7/1/08 05:18 PM, darknessdweller wrote: Yes, DEFINITELY. Do you people have any idea how many people die from secondhand smoke each year?

Let's ban fast food too, it makes people fat and gives them heart attacks.
While we're at it, let's get rid of alcohol. Think about how many people die from drinking and driving each year. I think we should ban cellphones too, since people talk on them and get into car crashes, resulting in loss of life. Hell, let's just get rid of cars altogether, there are way too many fatal accidents.

Even though you're being sarcastic I agree with some of that. Fast food sucks, which is why i rarely ever eat it. And where i live, it's illegal to talk on your cell phone while driving. However, cars altogether? that's just stupid.

At 7/1/08 05:23 PM, Grammar-Nazi wrote:

Marijuana is illegal because the US can't make any profit from it.

No need to spread that gay liberal shit on me.

Shut up, pissed off conservative redneck.

FUCK NO! But ignorant people who don't understand the consequences of illegalizing a substance may say otherwise.

I would ban it considering how much damage it does peoples health as well as pollution.

At 7/1/08 05:28 PM, Wreckages wrote: i think people (none smokers) are pussies to not walk away from a smoker.

It just pisses me off when I'm enjoying the view, when some prick starts smoking a few meters away from me.

So I just break their legs and walk away.

I wish :D

At 7/1/08 05:27 PM, Flak wrote: It should be banned from most public places, and at the very least have a separated, designated area for people who smoke.

I don't care if you want to wreck your body, but don't make the choice for me.

this guy has the best opinion here. everyone else should just shut up.

As an American, I will defend everyones right to wreck their lungs if they want, as long as you know the harm it causes, then let them do how it do.

but if they let somthing as harmful as ciggarettes legal, they should make all drugs legal, like weed, (i dont do drugs im just saying for logics sake)

I like how health nuts are paranoid at every little thing that everyone says is bad for you.
My Opa smoked for 50 years, he's 84. Also, one of my band teachers use to be a chemical anlysist(sp), even he said that tobacco wasn't all that harmful, it's the chemicals they add too it.

I think smokers should have absolutely no rights whatsoever, and the taxes on cigarettes should be even higher.

I'd love to have my freedom taken away from me. Thanks for asking.

At 7/1/08 05:15 PM, jimnoff wrote: fuck yea it should be banned
that crap kills people but somehow its ok
fucking stupid

So does drinking, but why is that not banned? Because we tried that and found out that it was a terrible idea. If you think smoking is dangerous and stupid, JUST DON'T SMOKE! It's that simple! But you have NO RIGHT to force other people to do the same! And a law will not make anyone to quit. It'll just fill up our overcrowded prisons with more innocent people and replace a legal business with a bunch of underground criminals.

I'd lose income and customers if I cannot sell cigarettes. Cigarettes are a major seller in most convenience stores.

I think it should be just as harshly treated as drugs because cigarettes are basically exacatally the same as drugs:
1. They're addicitive
2.They are negative for your health
3. and both sometimes make you fell relaxed or happy
So in conclusion they should be just as harshly treated as drugs.

At 7/1/08 05:17 PM, xKore wrote:

At 7/1/08 05:15 PM, jimnoff wrote: fuck yea it should be banned
that crap kills people but somehow its ok
fucking stupid

Electricity kills people, I think we should ban that too and be all amish and shit.

/sarc

AIDS kills too. we should ban that too. whats with everybody having AIDS they must be retarded or somrthing because they could die!

At 7/1/08 05:23 PM, Prinzy2 wrote: Let's ban fast food too, it makes people fat and gives them heart attacks.
While we're at it, let's get rid of alcohol. Think about how many people die from drinking and driving each year. I think we should ban cellphones too, since people talk on them and get into car crashes, resulting in loss of life. Hell, let's just get rid of cars altogether, there are way too many fatal accidents.

Fast food is food; it nourishes people and gives them energy, and is inexpensive.
Alcohol plays an important part in social gatherings like parties. They wouldn't be the same without it.
Cell phones allow people to communicate wirelessly.
Cars can transport people.

Let's compare that to other things:
Video games provide a source of entertainment and help form relationships with other people by playing multiplayer.
Diets can help trim down people's weight and help them become fitter.
Matches are easy to carry around and can create a fire quickly to cook food and warm bodies.
Knives make cutting easier.

Let's compare smoking now. There are, for the most part, no health benefits to smoking, other than calming yourself when you smoke. Smoking is also a very large cash cow, and for the cow to die would make many business lose a lot of customers and profit.

My point is, anything has negative consequences. But in order to determine what should stay and what should be banned, you need to determine the ratio of positive and negative reasons and outcomes. In regards to smoking, it will more likely kill you than do you any good. The reason why it's a large industry in the world is that people are addicted to them.

In my opinion, instead of banning smoking, we should instead try to first help the people who want to quit to stop, make people who are indecisive about smoking make up their mind to quit, and leave those who want to smoke be. This way, it will cut down a lot of smokers in the world, and lessen our environmental impact while keeping the ones who are firmly rooted in smoking not worry about price increases and bans.

True, I know it's going to be expensive as hell, and I'm sure that it's effectiveness is limited, but, when you think about it, doesn't everything have a cost?

I really don't know if all of that made any sense, but just pretend it did. It's my opinion. :P

Eh, it kills off the poplation who are idiotic enough to start in the first place.

Smoking is way too awesome to ban.

All you 'let's criminalise another substance' people are really dumb for an obvious reason. Like, criminals will control the market, the economies of large patches of land will be destroyed or converted to illegal trading, and the state will control us all just a little bit more. Lots of people like smoking. People who are having a hard time might find smoking one of the only things that they can look forwards to. You guys are all immensely stupid for obvious reasons; it used to be common knowledge, but apparently the governments nowadays don't know shit about running countries.

Heh, that'll happen when they allow gay marriage in Kentucky.

The OP for the legalbud thread i just saw doesnt.

At 7/1/08 06:15 PM, Kart-Man wrote:

At 7/1/08 05:23 PM, Prinzy2 wrote: Let's ban fast food too, it makes people fat and gives them heart attacks.
While we're at it, let's get rid of alcohol. Think about how many people die from drinking and driving each year. I think we should ban cellphones too, since people talk on them and get into car crashes, resulting in loss of life. Hell, let's just get rid of cars altogether, there are way too many fatal accidents.

Fast food is food; it nourishes people and gives them energy, and is inexpensive.

Lol, if you haven't seen the documentary Supersize Me, you should. Fast food in the generic sense, doesn't nourish people, it's toxic. The only energy they get is from the sugar, and it's way more expensive than a meal made a home.

Alcohol plays an important part in social gatherings like parties. They wouldn't be the same without it.

Exactly, the drive home or getting your stomach pumped is half the fun.

Cell phones allow people to communicate wirelessly.

I heard something about people crossing the road and getting hit my someone talking/texting on their cellphone.

Cars can transport people.

They also make good roadkill of people.

Now, in case you didn't already catch on, I was being sarcastic when I was talking about banning all of that crap. But I've attempted an argument. Read on.

Let's compare that to other things:
Video games provide a source of entertainment and help form relationships with other people by playing multiplayer.

Ever seen the show Intervention? One of the guys on there was addicted to video games. He basically ignored everyone around him and didn't even let his little brother play with him. So much for forming relationships with other people.

Diets can help trim down people's weight and help them become fitter.

Diets can also kill people, see bulimia and anorexia.

Matches are easy to carry around and can create a fire quickly to cook food and warm bodies.

Not to mention burn down houses and burn shit, tons of fun.

Knives make cutting easier.

I'm glad I can cut people with ease now.
There is a negative side to almost everything. However, you need to look past that and see that some things are for the greater good, not to sound like a philosophical moron though.

Let's compare smoking now. There are, for the most part, no health benefits to smoking, other than calming yourself when you smoke. Smoking is also a very large cash cow, and for the cow to die would make many business lose a lot of customers and profit.

I hear stress is a big problem nowadays. People going on mass killing sprees and committing suicide. Take postal workers for example.

My point is, anything has negative consequences. But in order to determine what should stay and what should be banned, you need to determine the ratio of positive and negative reasons and outcomes. In regards to smoking, it will more likely kill you than do you any good. The reason why it's a large industry in the world is that people are addicted to them.

On a personal level, yes, smoking is pretty stupid. However, think about all the cash big tobacco makes. When a person gets sick, think about the nurses and doctors that get paid, not to mention pharmaceutical companies. Even Sanjay said that he'd lose business if tobacco was banned.

In my opinion, instead of banning smoking, we should instead try to first help the people who want to quit to stop, make people who are indecisive about smoking make up their mind to quit, and leave those who want to smoke be. This way, it will cut down a lot of smokers in the world, and lessen our environmental impact while keeping the ones who are firmly rooted in smoking not worry about price increases and bans.

Fuck people, my Opa quit cold turkey, if people can't do it with the patch or nicotine gum, then there is no chance of helping them. They do it because they enjoy it, so let them. If you want a smoke free environment then go pound sand where they've outlawed smoking.

True, I know it's going to be expensive as hell, and I'm sure that it's effectiveness is limited, but, when you think about it, doesn't everything have a cost?

In a country whose economy is based on private enterprise and making money? Yeah, good luck with that one.

I really don't know if all of that made any sense, but just pretend it did. It's my opinion. :P

Perfect sense.

Now for my not so humble opinion.
Deal with it.

The fact that this is even being discussed is frankly ridiculous.

I think so, it's not that hard to ban it, just make buying/selling smokes illegal, smokers will then run out of smokes and loose thier addiction from not smoking for a while.

Yes. They should. They kill people, and they kill people who are around smokers. What more could be needed to ban it?

I don't think it should. they limit public areas where smokers can inhale. I think it's a stupid habit, but I could care less about what people do as long as it doesn't inconvenience me.

At 7/1/08 06:44 PM, Prinzy2 wrote:

fast-food, cell phones, cars, etc.

I was too lazy to bring up the other side of the coin; it would have taken ages. Like I said, everything has consequences.

Now, in case you didn't already catch on, I was being sarcastic when I was talking about banning all of that crap. But I've attempted an argument. Read on.

Yeah, I knew it was. I was just saying that for teh lulz, as well as to tie in my opinion to the rest of them. :)

There is a negative side to almost everything. However, you need to look past that and see that some things are for the greater good, not to sound like a philosophical moron though.

Exactly.

I hear stress is a big problem nowadays. People going on mass killing sprees and committing suicide. Take postal workers for example.

If they feel that depressed, they should seek healthier ways to cope with it. It's easier to give in and take the easy way out, but if they talk to someone I'm sure that they will deal with their problems better than smoking and doing other things.

On a personal level, yes, smoking is pretty stupid. However, think about all the cash big tobacco makes. When a person gets sick, think about the nurses and doctors that get paid, not to mention pharmaceutical companies. Even Sanjay said that he'd lose business if tobacco was banned.

People shouldn't be as greedy then. What about the underdeveloped nations like ones in Africa? They'd be happy if they got even a nickel. Besides, if one section of the market starts to drop, another one will rise. If the sale of cigarettes plummets, people will find something else to buy, and sellers will have something else to profit on.

Fuck people, my Opa quit cold turkey, if people can't do it with the patch or nicotine gum, then there is no chance of helping them. They do it because they enjoy it, so let them. If you want a smoke free environment then go pound sand where they've outlawed smoking.

Just because they can't quit easily doesn't mean they don't deserve help in doing so. Just because some guy is stuck in a pit and has slim chance of getting out at all doesn't mean you can't help him. And, like I've stated before, I don't want an entirely smoke-free environment, I only want a system where the number of smokers will decrease over time.

In a country whose economy is based on private enterprise and making money? Yeah, good luck with that one.

Yeah, it was a bit of a stretch. However, there are restaurants out there that choose to forgo cheap, yet fattening ingredients for healthier ones in their dishes, and they profit. It all depends on how greedy people are.

I really don't know if all of that made any sense, but just pretend it did. It's my opinion. :P

Perfect sense.

Now for my not so humble opinion.
Deal with it.

I will indeed, sir.