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At 7/15/08 02:07 PM, JUSTIN-BAILEY wrote: Worst Characters: (1 being the worst/best)

1. Bowser
Way too slow.

2. Jigglypuff
Just a joke, weak and easily KOed.

3. Ganondorf
Easily Koed by long range attacks.

4. Peach
Slow, and weak. The recovery doesn't help enough.

5. Snake
In reality, not a horrible character, but too hard to charge up his attacks.

Best characters:

1. Lucus
Balanced: Excellent recovery, A side smash is quick, A up is very strong great for finishing a combo, lots of long range attacks.

2. Captain Falcon
Speed and power, not much else you need.

3. Sonic
Unmatched speed.

4. Fox
Speed and ranged attacks.

5. Samus
Long range master, can beat the hell out of Ganondorf and other slow characters without ranged attacks.

Most Mediocre Character:
Mr. Game and Watch.

Too risky to play as, inaccurate long range attack, A side could be good or bad, good recovery, the middle of the road.

Mr. Gaymenwatch is win. >_> I'm not saying I'm the greatest or anything, but I'm quite the challenge on YouTube and the Marriland Forums, and I've gotten murdered by a Game and Watch user before.

At 7/15/08 02:07 PM, JUSTIN-BAILEY wrote: Worst Characters: (1 being the worst/best)

1. Bowser
Way too slow.

2. Jigglypuff
Just a joke, weak and easily KOed.

3. Ganondorf
Easily Koed by long range attacks.

4. Peach
Slow, and weak. The recovery doesn't help enough.

5. Snake
In reality, not a horrible character, but too hard to charge up his attacks.

Best characters:

1. Lucus
Balanced: Excellent recovery, A side smash is quick, A up is very strong great for finishing a combo, lots of long range attacks.

2. Captain Falcon
Speed and power, not much else you need.

3. Sonic
Unmatched speed.

4. Fox
Speed and ranged attacks.

5. Samus
Long range master, can beat the hell out of Ganondorf and other slow characters without ranged attacks.

Most Mediocre Character:
Mr. Game and Watch.

Great list, you put the pros and cons of the characters, and didn't just beat them down like "DIDDY KONG is GAY, PIT SUCKS."

i got three:
1.olimar
2.diddy kong
3.pit

At 7/15/08 02:07 PM, JUSTIN-BAILEY wrote: Worst Characters: (1 being the worst/best)

1. Bowser
Way too slow.

He isn't that bad.

2. Jigglypuff
Just a joke, weak and easily KOed.

Ever tried beating him on 9? Hardest shit ever.

3. Ganondorf
Easily Koed by long range attacks.

Good thing you can dodge range attacks easily too. Also the B down move I think it is helps a lot

4. Peach
Slow, and weak. The recovery doesn't help enough.

Yeah she is a bit slow but that's why she has two recoveries.

5. Snake
In reality, not a horrible character, but too hard to charge up his attacks.

He is a wee bit hard to play as, but most of his smashes can be used well if ya plan ahead.

Best characters:

1. Lucas
Balanced: Excellent recovery, A side smash is quick, A up is very strong great for finishing a combo, lots of long range attacks.

Course sometimes the recovery might not work and can leave in the air for a bit, allowing enemies to attack.

2. Captain Falcon
Speed and power, not much else you need.

Captain falcon is all about angles, if you can get that down and mastered, he's very formidable, but if you can't, he's not very good of a character

3. Sonic
Unmatched speed.

Attacks are weak

4. Fox
Speed and ranged attacks.

Doesn't fair well in 3-4 person brawl

5. Samus
Long range master, can beat the hell out of Ganondorf and other slow characters without ranged attacks.

I'd like to see that.

Most Mediocre Character:
Mr. Game and Watch.

Too risky to play as, inaccurate long range attack, A side could be good or bad, good recovery, the middle of the road.

He's a luck/chance character.

diddy kong is the worst to be...... hes never been play before on my game

it's not that ilke playing as yoshi but more like proving you all wrong with him but most pissing people of with him as well "#\^& i can't believe i lost to yoshi" thats what makes it all worthwhile

Why does everyone hate Diddy? i think he owns, i kick ass with him, i think ganondorf is the worst

At 7/7/08 10:11 PM, dec-1310 wrote: EVEN if you don´t believe me.... the worst character is Fox.....................................
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No... I´m not kidding.... I bet skilled Fox users lack of control wth other characters.... the "top tier characters" are nothing but noob friendly characters.... The best characters are the ones you all are saying that are the worst.... It´s ok... The character that I control the best is Falco... but he is NOT the best character....... If someone beats you with Jigg.... that guy could Annihilate with any tier character since Jigg is difficlt to use but......... If you Master her well.... And learn everyone´s moves.... you could be the best brawler..... so in conclusion........... I don´t say "TIERS R 4 QUEERS"... but I say.... The tier chars are the worst............
T-H-E E-N-D

The whole Fox is a top tier thing was Melee, not Brawl. Fox is actually around the middle of the current rankings. He has a high learning curve. And Falco is actually pretty high up there, like #7. And Falco doesn't take a while to get a hold of. Actually, the most difficult character to use is Ganondorf. He's at the bottom, since his attacks don't really combo that much, so he's just a slow hit-and-run character, plus, shitty recovery.
Jigglypuff is not that hard to use.
Even in Melee, Fox is not a beginners character. It takes time to master those quick combos. And 'shining' isn't so easy.

though all this what have we learned??....

snake is the best!

R.O.B. for the fail.

At 7/17/08 06:34 PM, firedog2 wrote: Why does everyone hate Diddy? i think he owns, i kick ass with him, i think ganondorf is the worst

Although that .Gif is adarable, picture spamming is frowned upon.

it's not that ilke playing as yoshi but more like proving you all wrong with him but most pissing people of with him as well "#\^& i can't believe i lost to yoshi" thats what makes it all worthwhile

Diddy Kong has to be the worst

At 7/17/08 08:50 PM, majgamer wrote: it's not that ilke playing as yoshi but more like proving you all wrong with him but most pissing people of with him as well "#\^& i can't believe i lost to yoshi" thats what makes it all worthwhile

hey hello out there are you ignoring me

At 7/13/08 08:24 AM, Yacazuma wrote:

At 7/7/08 10:11 PM, dec-1310 wrote: Shit loads of periods.

You are the period key's bitch.

You are a Mofo bitch....................... <------- oh loook!!!
just get on what I say, not on HOW I say........

Anybody saying that Jigglypuff, or Ness/Lucas are the worst characters obviously have to have against them in 9....

goes away

At 7/17/08 06:46 PM, verycoolguy wrote:

The whole Fox is a top tier thing was Melee, not Brawl. Fox is actually around the middle of the current rankings. He has a high learning curve. And Falco is actually pretty high up there, like #7. And Falco doesn't take a while to get a hold of. Actually, the most difficult character to use is Ganondorf. He's at the bottom, since his attacks don't really combo that much, so he's just a slow hit-and-run character, plus, shitty recovery.
Jigglypuff is not that hard to use.
Even in Melee, Fox is not a beginners character. It takes time to master those quick combos. And 'shining' isn't so easy.

I know what you mean...... But I MEAN that If you just use Fox is like you are a noob...... fox is fast, powerful and pretty easy to master..... Falco is overall...... Jigg Isn't hard to use I know....... I like to use her....... the char I control the least is Yoshi..... but If i could use it i would pwn everyone....... since I USE yoshi somethimes, he was pretty useful in HRC on melee.... Fox users lack of strategy and are good players but just wih him and the clones...... What I say is, there are 35 characters, dont concentrate on just 1 or 2, if you know to use he supposed "best" and the "worst" then you are an excellent brawler.......... that's why I say Fox is for beginners..... my 6 yeared old cousin defeated a lvl 6 cpu with fox..... THE FIRST TIME HE PLAYED EVER!!!!!!! but I began in melee using Jigg (wasn't my game that time) and it was harder...... but when I got melee I began Pwning with Sheik....... So what I mean Is.... TIER CHARS ARE NOOB CHARS!!! Now all of you get out and use characters as Jigglypuff, Ganondorf (he is not that hard), ROB, Mr. G&W, Olimar and all those supposed bad characters...............
And if you complain about my period overusing sorry... It got addicting...............

diddy kong

At 7/17/08 06:34 PM, firedog2 wrote: Why does everyone hate Diddy? i think he owns, i kick ass with him, i think ganondorf is the worst

wtf ganon rulz and diddy sucks his up up b is really bad!

I say jiggilypuff, Bowser, and Yoshi are garb..

All of those 3 characters have only have like 2 moves
which are pretty bad..

also remember This is IMO totaly up to you...

I also Like Ike alot he hits hard but hes pretty usless for getting back on the map most of the time
B& -> is pretty good for getting back on

At 7/18/08 12:45 PM, Sevlen wrote: diddy kong

Come on I'll beat you with Diddy Kong!

At 7/18/08 12:48 PM, Sevlen wrote:

At 7/17/08 06:34 PM, firedog2 wrote: Why does everyone hate Diddy? i think he owns, i kick ass with him, i think ganondorf is the worst

wtf ganon rulz and diddy sucks his up up b is really bad!

though you say that, you just need 2 learn to master it, its usefull for a recovery if ur far away.. though u just need to practice, ganon sucks, he is just a remake of Capt. Falcon.

Either Jiggly Puff or Sonic.

Meta Knight because he's a spammer and CAN'T SMASH FOR SHIT

and

Jigglypuff for obvious reasons.

jiggles
1. final smash is easily dodged
2.hold down the sheild
3.well i dont like jiggles at all really

At 7/18/08 11:47 AM, dec-1310 wrote:

fox is fast, powerful and pretty easy to master.....

To master? Wrong. Knowing how to do a few combos with his dAir is not mastering. If you don't know what I mean, then, spamming smashes isn't mastering either.

that's why I say Fox is for beginners..... my 6 yeared old cousin defeated a lvl 6 cpu with fox..... THE FIRST TIME HE PLAYED EVER!!!!!!!

lvl. 6 is nothing hard. Maybe he wouldve beat it with an other character anyway, he just likes Fox.

Ganondorf (he is not that hard)

Only hard if you play against someone else, who uses quick characters, and are good with them.

ROB, Mr. G&W, Olimar and all those supposed bad characters...............

All of those characters are high in the current rankings. G&W is the most noob friendly character ever. His smashes are so broken.

Stop talking as if Fox in Melee is the same as Fox in Brawl. That's a stupid generalization. In Melee, Fox wasn't noob-friendly. He was Pro-friendly. All the pros knew how to use his full potential, and it outweighs the potential of many other characters, that's why he gets up so high in tourney results.

Can noobs do this with Fox?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L0DJEOj3 7c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEm-rQHRt vQ

it's not that ilke playing as yoshi but more like proving you all wrong with him but mostly pissing people of with him as well "#\^& i can't believe i lost to yoshi" thats what makes it all worthwhile hey
hello out there are you ignoring me yeah i'm talking to you with your fancy windows vista and xp and your macs ( which are much better by the way) pay attention to me i may as well change my name to luigi"why doesn't anyone pay attention to
wee-gee"

At 7/17/08 07:11 PM, infernocpf wrote: though all this what have we learned??....

snake is the best!

i agree!

At 7/18/08 10:48 PM, verycoolguy wrote:

At 7/18/08 11:47 AM, dec-1310 wrote:

fox is fast, powerful and pretty easy to master.....

To master? Wrong. Knowing how to do a few combos with his dAir is not mastering. If you don't know what I mean, then, spamming smashes isn't mastering either.

Yeah...... Guys that just use fox and do nice combos with him are not the best

that's why I say Fox is for beginners..... my 6 yeared old cousin defeated a lvl 6 cpu with fox..... THE FIRST TIME HE PLAYED EVER!!!!!!!

lvl. 6 is nothing hard. Maybe he wouldve beat it with an other character anyway, he just likes Fox.

The FIRST time..... without knowing to controllers :/

Ganondorf (he is not that hard)

Only hard if you play against someone else, who uses quick characters, and are good with them.

If you use dodges well and the slow attacks wisely..... he isn't

ROB, Mr. G&W, Olimar and all those supposed bad characters...............

All of those characters are high in the current rankings. G&W is the most noob friendly character ever. His smashes are so broken.

Well... yeah... Mr. G&W was more difficult to master in melee since the judgement 9 appeared less frecuently... but I say Mr.G&W can be hard a 4 player battle...

Stop talking as if Fox in Melee is the same as Fox in Brawl. That's a stupid generalization. In Melee, Fox wasn't noob-friendly. He was Pro-friendly. All the pros knew how to use his full potential, and it outweighs the potential of many other characters, that's why he gets up so high in tourney results.

I undestand Fox is different... I mean.... you ask anybody "you use Fox well" and its impossible to say "no I suck using him" unless these guys lack experience OR they didn't learn to use him

Can noobs do this with Fox?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L0DJEOj3 7c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEm-rQHRt vQ

THERE are things that noobs can't do..... but... I say Fox is easy to use... Did you hear someone say "I SUCK WITH FOX BUT IM BETTER WITH GANONDORF/JIGGLYPUF etc"? I personally used Fox to pass the challenge "beat boss battles on intense"..... but then I recognized what I said And tried with Mr.G&W.... and YOU KNOW WHAT? I didn't (thats maybe cause i'm not great with him"
Whatever Fox has nice combos.... some of them are difficult..... but most of them are easy.....

At 8/2/08 03:35 PM, dec-1310 wrote:
Fox is a noob character.

I'm not even going to get into this argument...