Self-Alienation

[Slizor]

Oooouuuuu nice long word
Ok so who here enjoys there job?

Isn't school made to self-alienate people, I go to school and I hate it, but the only reason I go is so I can have a job(well actually thats why other people go, I want to change the world, and to change it, I need to go through it) and have money, but not to get a job they enjoy

Bugger_all_99

[Guerto]

At 2/23/01 03:34 PM, Bugger_all_99 wrote: Oooouuuuu nice long word
Ok so who here enjoys there job?

Isn't school made to self-alienate people, I go to school and I hate it, but the only reason I go is so I can have a job(well actually thats why other people go, I want to change the world, and to change it, I need to go through it) and have money, but not to get a job they enjoy

Bugger_all_99

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[P-Chan]

Was it really necessary, to spam the whole board?

[Nirvana13666]

I hate my fucking job and it isn’t even flipping burgers. I work a good paying job but I just feel like I want more. I get up go to work and learn a whole bunch of new shit that keeps me from doing anything in life that would better society.

It is an endless competition to see who can end life with the most possessions. It begins with compulsory education, with the idea that indoctrination is the same as education. Feeling trapped in the endless work load, in the endless department stores, surrounded by nothing but millions of people doing the same thing and consuming the same way.

[Commander-K25]

You people are too depressed. My job's pretty good and school, work though it is, isn't too awful.

[Shih]

Work isn't supposed to be fun people, that's why they have to pay you too be there. Any ways as long as you remember it's only a job and not your life you should be able too stand it and go on to the fun stuff.

[JudgeDredd]

At 2/23/01 03:34 PM, Slizor wrote:

.. Isn't school made to self-alienate people, I go to school and I hate it, but the only reason I go is so I can have a job (well actually thats why other people go, I want to change the world, and to change it, I need to go through it) and have money, but not to get a job they enjoy..

Bugger

Short anwser; YES, exactly!

I actually enjoyed studying in school but never felt i was learning any important lessons of real life. Now i'm older (actually just a big kid) i can earn money, but i still don't believe in the "equal-pay 4 equal-work" ethic.

I'm always reminded the time a teacher took me aside and asked "How do you see your future?" ..and i was like.. "err, i dunn-no?"

I believed in technology for technologies sake, and the possibility of computers linking everyone (before the internet existed ;) and thus the chance of weakening the absolute grip of authority (state or corporate) but frequently fought-off the feeling.. "this is the narrow corridoor you are allowed to walk down" and bugger.. I still wrongly tell myself that i need money to effect change in my life??!

Krazy eh!

But then again, i spent most of the previous night checking FREE-HOSTING options around the Net - and being a progormmer at heart, and having strong conceptual grasp on life, similar to.. "I want to change the world"

..so the REAL question is... DOES SCHOOL TEACH US TO WORK TOGEATHER? and i say "Absolutely NOT" ..or maybe only in school-like settings, ie. companies, institutions, committees, etc (unless you're planning to be an "observant" artist or author ;)

But look at New Ground's CLUB SECTION? Many individual struggling to find common grounds to work togeather. Or Buddy Lists, and Multi-Authoring Systems ..there's a real effort on the web at least to make production teams ....and I too hope i can join or form the kwellest team-thing going!

My conclusion? well, we are all molded by school to be specialists who often function like a kog in a machine which has the possibility to build bigger and better machines. And best one can hope for, that finding such an environment, it will ultimately liberate us from personal needs, as the money become secondary to the journey itself.

Ooohh - Alien-Assimilation!?

[JMHX]

I had to stop and laugh at that picture for a minute...

...anyway, school is only as bad as you make it out to be, unless you're being beaten with sticks. It's a smorgasbord of beautiful women and easy subjects, and a source of college scholarships to ease me into the elected office field. As for my job, I work at Barnes & Noble part time, since I'm lazy, and make a decent wage off of that. Gives me some time to read all of Bob Woodward's books without every buying them.

I buy them anyway, though.

[Freakapotimus]

At 5/5/03 06:21 PM, Shih wrote: Work isn't supposed to be fun people, that's why they have to pay you too be there.

Who says? I know some people who not only love their jobs, but have fun.

Unfortunately, I am not one of them. Although I have a great job, I do not have fun... only because I don't have much to do at the moment. If I had more work, I would have fun at work.

I think people should enjoy what they do. There's usually a way to get a job doing something you really like.

[Shih]

Well that's the ideal, but let's face it most people end up in a crappy job that just pays the billswhile they wait out the whole 9 to 5 gig trying to get to the weekends.
Man when the hell did I get so bitter.

[TheShrike]

This is why I like Nirvana....

She'll dig up an old thread, and no one hardly notices. Instead they actually debate the subject.

{{{Nirvana}}}

[Shih]

Damn this is an old thread, still interesting though.

[JMHX]

Hahahaha, they spelled school wrong!

[mrpopenfresh]

Isnt school the complete opposite? I mean you can learn most of the stuff you need to know from home school or in some other kind of way, but isnt schools second objective is to make you a more social person? I mean you go there 5 days a week and talk to people and make friends, yknow fraternise.

[nitroxide]

School just as jobs are made to preoccupy us schools force you to believe that you cant excell without a diploma ive had better higher paying jobs than my graduating class i see them and its a joke why they wasted their time in school to be bagging bags or working behind cashiers...i will go back to school but with a specific interest and now as an adult with more freedom...yet a slave to the goverment.

[FrakMan]

Back when I was about 16, I asked myself what the hell I wanted to do with my life, much like you are now, Slizor. I felt the exact same way about wanting to change the world... but couldn't figure a way to do it through some job.

Honestly, I figured on just going for the least of all evils and the most reliable in terms of getting the means to make a change (money, at least that's what i thought would make a difference then). I didn't want to be an engineer or whatever... I hated sucking up (my dad's one, I did a summer thing, hated it). I really wanted to be a musician, a poet, an actor... something where people could hear me. I figured though, it was too risky... such a low chance of success (I wanted to have kids, and for them, ya need some way to support).

So, I figured why not medicine? It's tough, but get some decent money, and save some lives and whatever bullshit. Back then, I figured it was the least shitty of whatever i could think of.

Now that I'm into it, I happen to enjoy it. It's kinda interesting. Actually, I'm getting into the research aspect of medicine, which I hope will give me the chance to make some difference. Honestly though, I still hold those dreams in my heart to someday make a big change... maybe someday I'll have the means and the chance. I realize now that it's chance that's the key... a matter of luck really...

In the meantime, I advise you to pick whatever sucks the least to you. Stick with it a while, if you find it sucks more than you thought SWITCH to something less sucky. Eventually, maybe you'll be the lucky 1/1,000,000 that makes a real difference. Who knows? No need to lose hope... this is just the way reality is. It sucks... but there are those few beautiful LITTLE things that keep you going.

[el-torro]

Dude, school will be the best years of your life!!
You have dick all to worry about! Makes sure you study real hard but at the same time wreak havoc, shag loads of people go to parties etc, just do what you want to do, because unless you become serious filthy rich you will never have the time to do fun stuff everyday!