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Response to Question for christians 2001-08-07 16:55:22 Reply

Such things as when the bible says that people lived for 900 years, and contradictions where it says that thou shall not kill and later says there is a time to kill. There are tons of things like this but I'm too tired to look through the bible just to prove my point.

The Bible says thou shalt not murder. Exodus 20:13 NIV. The definition of murder is killing outside the law so killing in wars is OK and executions are also acceptable.
The one thing you pick to ridicule is Methusela, Adam, Jared, Seth, or Kenan? (they all lived to be over 900)
God creating the world, Jesus resurrecting Lazarus, wlking on water, ascending to heaven, the 10 plagues, parting of the Red Sea, Enoch and Elijah, you pick the 900 club. I also don't see how it contradicts anything, but you probably just meant that it couldn't have happened since "modern science" tell us other wise.

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Response to Question for christians 2001-08-07 19:43:09 Reply

At 8/7/01 04:55 PM, IamJacksalias wrote:
Such things as when the bible says that people lived for 900 years, and contradictions where it says that thou shall not kill and later says there is a time to kill. There are tons of things like this but I'm too tired to look through the bible just to prove my point.
The Bible says thou shalt not murder. Exodus 20:13 NIV. The definition of murder is killing outside the law so killing in wars is OK and executions are also acceptable.
The one thing you pick to ridicule is Methusela, Adam, Jared, Seth, or Kenan? (they all lived to be over 900)
God creating the world, Jesus resurrecting Lazarus, wlking on water, ascending to heaven, the 10 plagues, parting of the Red Sea, Enoch and Elijah, you pick the 900 club. I also don't see how it contradicts anything, but you probably just meant that it couldn't have happened since "modern science" tell us other wise.

Heres what I've found. I'm Not sure which bible is the original but both the king james and the catholic bible say this exactly, you can verify it if you wish. Also I belive that one douay rheims is the orginal and King James is one of the original edited versions but I'm not really sure.

King James version Exodus 20:13 " Thou Shall Not Kill "
http://www.cybercomm.net/~dcon/drbible.html

The Douay Rheims Bible (catholic) Exodus 20:13 " Thou shall not Kill "
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Exodus/index.html

now on to the second point about people who lived 900 years, miracles, etc... Obviously you're taking a pre calculated auto response to something like this, becuase I never mentioned anything about a sceince vrs. religion debate. Sceince isn't a big aggregate of people who seek to disprove christians. All it is a compilation of things that go through a system to prove things true or false. personally I don't beleive evrything scenitists tell us becuase no system is perfect, however from life experience it is obvious that living 900 years is impossible. Never has it been verified or even been remortly likely or possible that someone could live even close to that. Just becuase someone told me that a magical wizard with the ability to cast spells that gives him magical powers made him do, I don't belive it. It's simply insane to acually belive something like that, I don't see how anyone can defend beleiving that other than becuase a other people do the same.

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Response to Question for christians 2001-08-08 17:05:57 Reply

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now on to the second point about people who lived 900 years, miracles, etc... Obviously you're taking a pre calculated auto response to something like this, becuase I never mentioned anything about a sceince vrs. religion debate. Sceince isn't a big aggregate of people who seek to disprove christians. All it is a compilation of things that go through a system to prove things true or false. personally I don't beleive evrything scenitists tell us becuase no system is perfect, however from life experience it is obvious that living 900 years is impossible. Never has it been verified or even been remortly likely or possible that someone could live even close to that. Just becuase someone told me that a magical wizard with the ability to cast spells that gives him magical powers made him do, I don't belive it. It's simply insane to acually belive something like that, I don't see how anyone can defend beleiving that other than becuase a other people do the same.

I understand where you're coming from. We live in highly unenlightened times. We think just because we have never seen something with our own eyes or if modern man hasn't documented it, that it can't exist. I could quote verses on things like this, but the Bible really only has an effect on those who follow it. All of the Bible is true, this sounds crazy, I know. You can't pick and choose things you believe from the bible and still call yourself a Christian, I wish you could. Due to that fact you have to believe everything in the Bible. If you are interested in validating the Bible try looking at Evidence that Demands a Verdict by John McDowell or Case for Faith, Case for Christ. If not to convice yourself, than to get more information on how we think and why believe what we believe.

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Response to Question for christians 2001-08-12 02:24:41 Reply

At 7/4/01 11:28 PM, Anarchypenguin wrote: To all you christians, I Was wondering how do you react to lies by the church? Such as How christmass is on the 25th of decemeber not becuase that was when jesus was born but becuase Roman emporer Constantine to distract pagans. This is just one example. Do you just belive in the ideal not in the exact words? Or do you Acually belive things like this even though it has no connection to the scriptures?

Sorry about late response; I'm a practicing Catholic.

Nowhere in our dogma does it state that Jesus was born on the 25th of December. It's a special feast day set aside for celebration; I believe the day was chosen almost to replace a large pagan celebration on Dec. 25.

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Response to Question for christians 2001-08-12 09:34:14 Reply

Sorry about late response; I'm a practicing Catholic.

I think I'll use that excuse when I'm late for school

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Response to Question for christians 2001-08-12 18:30:30 Reply

At 8/12/01 09:34 AM, Slizor wrote:
Sorry about late response; I'm a practicing Catholic.
I think I'll use that excuse when I'm late for school

Yeah same here.

" God damn it! You said we were gonna go out tonight! "

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