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Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-23 21:05:36 Reply

I'm an atheist as you know and I really wonder how my funerals going to turn out because they can't mention god...it would be wierd. "He had a good life and g- oh shit I can't mention that can I..."


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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-23 21:08:21 Reply

i dont know how you would do that. but mines gonna be a sexy rave dance party :)

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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-23 21:13:55 Reply

lol I'll come


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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-23 21:17:04 Reply

At 6/23/08 09:05 PM, Onizero wrote: I'm an atheist as you know and I really wonder how my funerals going to turn out because they can't mention god...it would be wierd. "He had a good life and g- oh shit I can't mention that can I..."

whos they? and why can't they mention God?


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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-23 21:50:13 Reply

At 6/23/08 09:17 PM, SolInvictus wrote:
At 6/23/08 09:05 PM, Onizero wrote: I'm an atheist as you know and I really wonder how my funerals going to turn out because they can't mention god...it would be wierd. "He had a good life and g- oh shit I can't mention that can I..."
whos they? and why can't they mention God?

Preacher people at funerals .-. and because I don't think an atheist would want the mentioning of 'Silly Ideas' at the honoring of his life if he's atheist

This is only from my experiences...

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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-23 21:58:06 Reply

I see no conflict in this thread. You just say "so and so was a great fella for all these reasons....." than dump his ass in and go get dinner.


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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-23 22:03:58 Reply

Semi-Religious Funeral: "So and so was a good man. And God..."

Atheist on-looker: "Omg... he said God in a public place when I don't want to hear it. Sue!"

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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-23 22:08:12 Reply

At 6/23/08 10:03 PM, Memorize wrote: Semi-Religious Funeral: "So and so was a good man. And God..."

Atheist on-looker: "Omg... he said God in a public place when I don't want to hear it. Sue!"

Tip: the vast majority of atheists hate people who do shit like that.

For the most part, we see separation of church and state as a safeguard to maintain a free society, not as a pissing match where we try to rack up as many anti-religion points as possible.

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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 00:06:47 Reply

It'll go something like this;

"He had miserable life full of fear and uncertainty and now he is dead, and I mean FUCKING DEAD; pitch-black dead. His corpse will rot in the soil and, eventually, his very existence will be forgotten, never to resurface again."


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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 00:25:24 Reply

At 6/23/08 10:08 PM, Elfer wrote:
Tip: the vast majority of atheists hate people who do shit like that.

=p

Yeah, I know. I just wish there were more stories of the Westburo Church to make of.

For the most part, we see separation of church and state as a safeguard to maintain a free society, not as a pissing match where we try to rack up as many anti-religion points as possible.

It still amazes me how many court cases they win, no matter how small the number.

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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 01:19:03 Reply

At 6/24/08 12:25 AM, Memorize wrote:
At 6/23/08 10:08 PM, Elfer wrote:
Tip: the vast majority of atheists hate people who do shit like that.
=p

Yeah, I know. I just wish there were more stories of the Westburo Church to make of.

Yeah, I shouldn't be poking my head around like this, but is their a topic around that is just bashing their "cult"?

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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 01:23:41 Reply

At 6/24/08 12:25 AM, Memorize wrote:
At 6/23/08 10:08 PM, Elfer wrote:
Tip: the vast majority of atheists hate people who do shit like that.
=p

Yeah, I know. I just wish there were more stories of the Westburo Church to make of.

Lawl quoting my thread eh?

For the most part, we see separation of church and state as a safeguard to maintain a free society, not as a pissing match where we try to rack up as many anti-religion points as possible.
It still amazes me how many court cases they win, no matter how small the number.

Goes vice-versa m' friend

EX: Child succeeds in sueing school because he wore a shirt that said "Islam is a lie, Homosexuality is a sin"

Don't pretend it's one sided.

Or if you are being sarcastic, my goose is cooked.

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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 01:46:17 Reply

At 6/24/08 01:23 AM, ImaSmartass2 wrote:
EX: Child succeeds in sueing school because he wore a shirt that said "Islam is a lie, Homosexuality is a sin"

Don't pretend it's one sided.

Or if you are being sarcastic, my goose is cooked.

No, I mean it surprises me how many court cases they all win. I read that story, and the kid should've lost. As the courts have demonstrated, the school has a different set of rules and regulation to follow than what an individual would outside a business or school setting.

The school has a code that anything that would cause a major disturbance in the school system can be taken away by the school (using common sense of course). His shirt should've been taken, as well as the mary jane shirt lawsuits as well.

Though I don't think anyone should have a problem with an article of clothing that has religious symbols on them, such as a cross, or maybe a picture of Buddha, so long as they don't outright attack another's beliefs or simply attack others in general.

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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 02:27:56 Reply

Atheism is the gayest concept in existence, I mean why the fuck is there a category for people who don't believe in a god?

Fuck all of you.

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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 03:48:36 Reply

At 6/23/08 09:50 PM, Onizero wrote: Preacher people at funerals .-. and because I don't think an atheist would want the mentioning of 'Silly Ideas' at the honoring of his life if he's atheist
This is only from my experiences...

why would an atheist have a religious funeral in the first place? and if that person's friends and family believed in God, i'd hope they would mention God (in a good way of course).


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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 03:54:58 Reply

At 6/24/08 01:46 AM, Memorize wrote: No, I mean it surprises me how many court cases they all win.

The justice system is fucked up, a little thing called common sense needs to be beaten into it.


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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 04:27:28 Reply

Why is there so much religion topics in these politics threads?

Should there be a religion forum?

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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 07:48:49 Reply

I'm pretty sure that a sensible atheist would want to be cremated, since technically a natural death would involve restoring one's own resources into the ground; of course burial doesn't make this possible and neither does cremation, but at least cremation doesn't require as much space.

as for funeral rights? The most practical thing would be to celebrate the physical legacy of the individual who died; though i don't think the regular westerner is that superficial; not yet at least.


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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 09:05:47 Reply

At 6/24/08 02:27 AM, FeelinGood wrote: Atheism is the gayest concept in existence, I mean why the fuck is there a category for people who don't believe in a god?

Fuck all of you.

It's for demographic purposes. It's just like how there's a category for people who don't go skiing.

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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 09:15:32 Reply

At 6/24/08 02:27 AM, FeelinGood wrote: Atheism is the gayest concept in existence,

Yeah, because believing in a fictional character as your creator isn't a kooky concept?

I mean why the fuck is there a category for people who don't believe in a god?

That's called freedom my friend. I understand you god fearing folk don't believe in personal freedom, as your lives are dictated through a story book. That and we don't have to pay cash for our beliefs.

Atheist Funeral: All your friends and family gather at your resting place of choice, say a bunch of nice things about you, and as mentioned above, go get some dinner.


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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 09:43:16 Reply

At 6/24/08 02:27 AM, FeelinGood wrote: Atheism is the gayest concept in existence, I mean why the fuck is there a category for people who don't believe in a god?

Without a catagory for people who dont believe, there cant be a catagory for people who do. Surely you understand the light and dark concept? If the dark did not exist we would not have a reason or a way to define or classify light.

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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 09:47:41 Reply

At 6/24/08 07:48 AM, SmilezRoyale wrote: I'm pretty sure that a sensible atheist would want to be cremated, since technically a natural death would involve restoring one's own resources into the ground; of course burial doesn't make this possible and neither does cremation, but at least cremation doesn't require as much space.

I dunno, I'm kind of on the fence when it comes to cremation vs. traditional burial. Both have their various pros and cons. When I die, I'll want my body disposed of in such a way that it causes as little harm to the enviroment as possible. I'll also make sure that my burial/cremation is planned well in advance to make sure that the vultures of Death Incorporated aren't scamming my family into buying expensive extras that are completely superfluous and unnecessary.

Other than that, I don't really care how my body is disposed of. As long as it's enviroment friendly and cheap, I'm happy.

Oh yeah, and they have to play The Return of the Space Cowboy by Jamiroquai at the funeral. No sappy organ music allowed.

as for funeral rights? The most practical thing would be to celebrate the physical legacy of the individual who died; though i don't think the regular westerner is that superficial; not yet at least.

I don't really see what the problem here would be. You just talk about the person and what he stood for and believed in, just like any other funeral. If he did believe in God, good, you can talk about his belief in God. If he didn't believe in God, then God doesn't have to enter into it.

Funerals are really more for the people the person leaves behind than the actual person him or herself. It's an important part of saying goodbye, and if someone wants to look to God to help them deal with that when I die, I won't begrudge them for that.


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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 09:58:48 Reply

At 6/24/08 09:15 AM, bcdemon wrote:
Yeah, because believing in a fictional character as your creator isn't a kooky concept?

Well, do you believe nothing exploding into a everything a good explination? Do you honestly believe that such design could be made by accident? If you think my belief is trash then you might as well think that but I'm not changing my belief because every religion thread has people shooting missles at my door trying to insult my beliefs.


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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 10:09:20 Reply

At 6/24/08 09:47 AM, Angry-Hatter wrote:

Oh yeah, and they have to play The Return of the Space Cowboy by Jamiroquai at the funeral. No sappy organ music allowed.

Sappy? have you ever heard the Organ Toccata, by j.s bach

Anyway; i'm not surprised this has already turned into an insult match.


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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 10:26:06 Reply

At 6/24/08 09:58 AM, ManlyMan97 wrote:
At 6/24/08 09:15 AM, bcdemon wrote:
Yeah, because believing in a fictional character as your creator isn't a kooky concept?
Well, do you believe nothing exploding into a everything a good explination? Do you honestly believe that such design could be made by accident? If you think my belief is trash then you might as well think that but I'm not changing my belief because every religion thread has people shooting missles at my door trying to insult my beliefs.

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No one who has any clue ( the scientists & engineers) looking into the Big Bang , has ever said "everything came from nothing "
No , only 'god fearing' so called "faithful" religious people say that.
It probably comes from their understanding of ,something that is incomprehensible to most people.

Since their understanding is (in my opinion) less than 0% (that's right they haven't got a clue) they all , each & everyone of them ! Can only invision it as NOTHING.

But tell me this , why are you religious people 'all god fearing' individuals?
Are you really so stupid that you need an all powerful being who has threatened you with an eternity of damnation, if you refuse to bow down to the wishes of the leaders of your "faith" ; to be able to get through your lives ?
So what exactly are you afraid of ?
That your God is threatening you with eternal damnation ; has he spoken to you personally ,lately?
That the leaders of your religion are threatening you with a possible eternal punishment, by God , IF you don't do as they tell you ?

That kind of "faith" my friends is completely incomprehensible to me & I understand it 0% .

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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 12:19:46 Reply

At 6/24/08 02:27 AM, FeelinGood wrote: Atheism is the gayest concept in existence, I mean why the fuck is there a category for people who don't believe in a god?

Fuck all of you.

*cough* *cough*

I believe, correct me if I am wrong, that Christians are not supposed to judge others unfairly.

I have no problems with atheists in fact I have many friends who are atheist and we always talk about religion somehow we keep it FRIENDLY.

Why do so many 'God Fearing' individuals Judge Atheists unfairly, if they truly feared god they would listen to him and not judge them at all.

If they want to burn in what they consider a "non existing hell" LET THEM!
God gave us free will so I suggest you use it for a more useful thing than yelling at others who don't think the way you do.

and the whole "if they want to burn..." thing wasn't meant as an insult to Atheists my apologies If I offended you with that.

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At 6/24/08 03:54 AM, LordJaric wrote:
At 6/24/08 01:46 AM, Memorize wrote: No, I mean it surprises me how many court cases they all win.
The justice system is fucked up, a little thing called common sense needs to be beaten into it.

Including the time when some drunken idiot decides to race a subway train and lost

He sued the city and won

*facepalm*

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At 6/23/08 09:08 PM, killerwhale321 wrote: i dont know how you would do that. but mines gonna be a sexy rave dance party :)

I bet I can beat the dead guy in a Vodka chugging contest!


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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 14:06:17 Reply

My family is very religious. I'm sure god will be mentioned at my funeral. I really don't care, the funeral is for my friends and family. I'll be gone, no way for me to care any more and it's not like anyone is gonna hear someone mention god at my funeral and people are going to think "Oh so he wasn't an athiest!"


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Response to Atheist Funerals? 2008-06-24 15:24:29 Reply

At 6/24/08 10:09 AM, SmilezRoyale wrote:
At 6/24/08 09:47 AM, Angry-Hatter wrote:

Oh yeah, and they have to play The Return of the Space Cowboy by Jamiroquai at the funeral. No sappy organ music allowed.
Sappy? have you ever heard the Organ Toccata, by j.s bach

What am I, a vampire? =P

Besides, I'm not saying all organ music is "sappy", just that I don't want any "sappy" organ music played at my funeral. Every single funeral I've been to has had really depressing organ music that feels almost DESIGNED to make you feel sad. I don't want that.

What I want is, if not outright happy, then at least uplifting songs. I mean look at these lyrics:

Everything is good, and brown
I'm here again
With a sunshine smile upon my face
My friends are close at hand
And all my inhibitions
Have disappeared without a trace
I'm glad that I found
Somebody who I can rely on

These are lyrics designed to make you feel better, in my oppinion. The rule at my funeral will be that it's ok to cry, just as long as you have a smile on your face. People should remember the happy memories; not be coaxed into feeling depressed.


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