Newgrounds.com — Everything, By Everyone.

Checking login status…

USERNAME:

PASSWORD:

Logging in…

Logged in as:
.
Logging out…
Inbox My Account Log Out


Forum Topic: Hey Athiest

(283 views • 31 replies)

This topic is 2 pages long. [ 1 | 2 ]

<< < > >>
Questioning

Link24l

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 02:57 AM

Link24l LIGHT LEVEL 06

Sign-Up: 03/24/07

Posts: 896

I was wondering something the other day(not that im saying this so you guys will question yourself) how is there no religion i mean are we just useless walking atoms with no soul and have no real emotions? If are brains are just pulsing chemicals then we aren't really fealing anything we are just a simulation by the chemicals.Do you guys beleive we still have souls but they just die along with the body and magic just exist along with it. Now again im not trying to start an arguement I just want to get down what you people believen. The same way im not trying to argue with a buddist by asking if they think budda is god(im still not sure).

its a cool site (click on sig)this is for those wo came here for porn

BBS Signature

None

Another-User

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:02 AM

Another-User NEUTRAL LEVEL 06

Sign-Up: 12/27/07

Posts: 733

Worst argument I have ever read. I can't figure out what you are trying to argue for or against and what your points are. Please put more thought in your arguments next time.

Hello, I am Another-User, and I approve this message.
The answer to 90% of questions asked in general chat.
Play it, love it, live it.

BBS Signature

None

CrazyRussianSniper

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:03 AM

CrazyRussianSniper NEUTRAL LEVEL 05

Sign-Up: 04/18/08

Posts: 174

I dont belive in god, but i do belive in reincarnation. And the belief that life is usless is called ninhilism btw.

And I become an artist, my rifle is the brush, my enemy the canvis, and i paint death upon him. NG Communist Regiem||||NG COD4 Clan||||NG Guitarists

BBS Signature

None

RaharuHaruha

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:03 AM

RaharuHaruha EVIL LEVEL 01

Sign-Up: 03/03/08

Posts: 543

At 6/22/08 03:02 AM, Another-User wrote: Worst argument I have ever read. I can't figure out what you are trying to argue for or against and what your points are. Please put more thought in your arguments next time.

He's asking if atheists believe in souls.

At 4/17/08 12:07 AM, peroo wrote:
: wow guys, personally I would have either done a barrel roll or grabbed her cock.

BBS Signature

None

MrThirtySix

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:05 AM

MrThirtySix FAB LEVEL 05

Sign-Up: 12/18/07

Posts: 301

Shut up right now. Religious debates are annoying as fuck, and they're something no one needs to mention.


Expressionless

Alex-Cortes

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:05 AM

Alex-Cortes DARK LEVEL 13

Sign-Up: 01/11/06

Posts: 985

What anyone actually believes in anything is pointless because they are clueless idiots who just say what they think without any prove.

And I mean anyone.

Sig made by Torkelson at NGSM. I made a mistake.Woops! zombie game
Yea,thats my gun

BBS Signature

None

0gg-the-Gnome

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:05 AM

0gg-the-Gnome NEUTRAL LEVEL 09

Sign-Up: 10/13/07

Posts: 631

Do research before making a statement.


None

Michaelas10

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:05 AM

Michaelas10 DARK LEVEL 09

Sign-Up: 06/23/05

Posts: 1,115

I like where this thread is going.


None

EvilerBowser1001

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:05 AM

EvilerBowser1001 LIGHT LEVEL 18

Sign-Up: 06/07/07

Posts: 5,527

Your argument gave me a huge fucking headache.
Please let it make sense next time.

'I like the libertarian view, which is to leave everyone alone'-Clint Eastwood
Rammstein's one weakness...
"Rape is one of life's finer pleasures"- Jacob

BBS Signature

Angry

Redface

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:06 AM

Redface NEUTRAL LEVEL 24

Sign-Up: 07/27/04

Posts: 6,310

Few things:

1) If you close your mouth, you'll seem a lot of smarter

2) Buddah is not a God. How the--what the...what?

3) Just go away

Redface: Black sheep of the BBS since 2004.
Help me find the artist who created my proflie pic.

BBS Signature

None

Short-Factor

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:08 AM

Short-Factor LIGHT LEVEL 09

Sign-Up: 07/31/04

Posts: 775

Religion is a bunch of nonsensical hocus pocus. It was made up by cowards who died thousands of years ago. It was simply them trying to explain things they didn't understand. And if they lived in modern times, trying to invent a religion like Christianity (if it hadn't been made yet) they would fail miserably. It is human ignorance that continues "tradition". Tradition doesn't mean something is right.
Free will? Illusion. Nothing more than acting on what you do not know. To compensate for this lack of knowledge, and fear of not being in control, humans like to believe in free will. Everything in the universe is mathematics. Everything you do is based on the variables in your environment affecting you, not you affecting them.
Souls are bullshit. Another compensation for fear. You are composed of what is essentially computer parts in the form of proteins. Emotions are formed by chemicals called peptites, which send signals from the body to the brain, making you "feel" things.
I have said it before and will say it again. "The world isn't flat anymore. Get the fuck over it."

You were born and placed here without choice. In futility, your mind rapidly tries to accept this world, and all of its pain and misery.
I am here to give you a choice.

BBS Signature

None

Redface

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:12 AM

Redface NEUTRAL LEVEL 24

Sign-Up: 07/27/04

Posts: 6,310

At 6/22/08 03:08 AM, Short-Factor wrote: I have said it before and will say it again. "The world isn't flat anymore. Get the fuck over it."

Was it ever flat?

P.S. don't forget: Colons are your friends!

Redface: Black sheep of the BBS since 2004.
Help me find the artist who created my proflie pic.

BBS Signature

None

Short-Factor

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:14 AM

Short-Factor LIGHT LEVEL 09

Sign-Up: 07/31/04

Posts: 775

At 6/22/08 03:12 AM, Redface wrote: Was it ever flat?

My point exactly. It was never flat. But everyone believed it, and the only people who didn't were considered crazy.

You were born and placed here without choice. In futility, your mind rapidly tries to accept this world, and all of its pain and misery.
I am here to give you a choice.

BBS Signature

None

HeaterBurn

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:18 AM

HeaterBurn LIGHT LEVEL 01

Sign-Up: 04/22/08

Posts: 69

At 6/22/08 03:12 AM, Redface wrote:
At 6/22/08 03:08 AM, Short-Factor wrote: I have said it before and will say it again. "The world isn't flat anymore. Get the fuck over it."
Was it ever flat?

P.S. don't forget: Colons are your friends!

No colon is necessary is there is no list, and the two things he said in the quotation do not pertain or relate in any way. If he had said 'The world isn't flat anymore : It's round" Then the colon is appropriate. So don't lecture people in grammar unless you know what the fuck you are talking about.


None

FullClip92

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:20 AM

FullClip92 LIGHT LEVEL 03

Sign-Up: 05/15/08

Posts: 269

At 6/22/08 03:08 AM, Short-Factor wrote: Religion is a bunch of nonsensical hocus pocus. It was made up by cowards who died thousands of

who gives a shit? you are just telling me about the laws of nature, but it doesn't prove anything about God. and the rest is your own speculation.

Full Clip... Philisophical Genius. Anything else becomes your momma's problem.
Hip Hop's Finest

BBS Signature

None

emma-existential

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:21 AM

emma-existential DARK LEVEL 02

Sign-Up: 05/30/08

Posts: 432

No single creature honest mind can say they know the ABSOLUTE truth about anything, so it still goes from person to person. Atheism just denies the existence of a "higher power" entity in the most obvious senses. Most "ism"s conform to concrete beliefs, but things get fuzzy on a person to person basis.

I would like to believe in outer influence, but it is far too understandable that we are organic, and are thusly bound by memory alone. WE ARE MEMORY. That's it. Theism cannot change that. If you take a person and mess with their mind, from an injury or some other trauma, they might be a similar person, but it's our memories that dictate all aspects of our existence as we know it. Same as in death. Take a PC, with all of its memories and tools and plug-ins. Then smash it. You might be able to turn it on again, but it isn't the same. It may very well be beyond reach of communication. Regardless of what you believe, a similar instance DOES happen to the living just before death. Most ALL deaths (meaning the actual ceasing of both voluntary and involuntary thought/motion/processes) are "caused" by suffocation of the brain. Heart stops, brain suffocates. There's nothing that can prevent that. Even the beheaded have as many motor skills as their muscles and nerves allow before their minds finally cease in motion, then in charges, then the cortex loses all power. Have you ever damaged a power supply? A similar thing occurs. The motherboard tries, but there's not enough to get the processes going, and it gives up. Like unplugging a PC during an important process, you may lose valuable data, or even destroy the core system. And a virus can easily destroy the infrastructure and cause insanity. The persona is lost.

Is there a soul in there somewhere? Perhaps, but let's take the physical sense into account. The memories are all we have, aside from what those memories make our body do. Maybe they could be a substitute for a soul. The soul, as told be science and theory. We could be artistic as well, as memories allow us anything in terms of imagination, and say that souls are the untouchable, the sole property of ourselves and whatever we pledge them too. That could very well be a plausible statement, because one could hold that as truth to them.

Emma's signature is a lie.


None

Redface

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:22 AM

Redface NEUTRAL LEVEL 24

Sign-Up: 07/27/04

Posts: 6,310

At 6/22/08 03:18 AM, HeaterBurn wrote: No colon is necessary is there is no list, and the two things he said in the quotation do not pertain or relate in any way. If he had said 'The world isn't flat anymore : It's round" Then the colon is appropriate. So don't lecture people in grammar unless you know what the fuck you are talking about.

Newsflash: You're wrong. Let's take a look:

At 6/22/08 03:12 AM, Redface wrote:
At 6/22/08 03:08 AM, Short-Factor wrote: I have said it before and will say it again: "The world isn't flat anymore. Get the fuck over it."

See where I fixed the problem (you know, the one I was actually refering to)? I doubt it, since you're such a near-sighted dimwit.

Redface: Black sheep of the BBS since 2004.
Help me find the artist who created my proflie pic.

BBS Signature

None

emma-existential

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:24 AM

emma-existential DARK LEVEL 02

Sign-Up: 05/30/08

Posts: 432

I guess after all these posts, it still boils down to "Believe what you want - I really don't care".

The world's still here, so meh. I'll believe anything I feel like at any given moment.

Emma's signature is a lie.


Leering-Abstemiously NEUTRAL LEVEL 02

Sign-Up: 06/18/08

Posts: 132

Atheism isn't an act of belief, but rather one of disbelief. They believe that the natural world is what it is, and we all obviously have emotions and souls.


None

falz3333

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:27 AM

falz3333 LIGHT LEVEL 05

Sign-Up: 07/27/07

Posts: 344

It doesn't matter what other people think. Make up your own religion! I, myself, am an agnostic(google it ) but that doesn't mean I don't have any spirituality. This sounds cliche but you choose your own fate. The world is too vast to ever truly understand. If everything is mathematics then transcend it with art. If everyone goes to hell enjoy life. If their is only nothingness that awaits us then love someone and they will stay with you forever.

Killer whales inhale the pail


Expressionless

RobotTaco

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:27 AM

RobotTaco DARK LEVEL 15

Sign-Up: 12/31/05

Posts: 1,771

Your Argument is dumb, therefore you are dumb. Bite me.

I am Robot Taco. Hear me type.
Taco Freak is mah Homeboy.
OH LAWD!


None

FullClip92

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:29 AM

FullClip92 LIGHT LEVEL 03

Sign-Up: 05/15/08

Posts: 269

At 6/22/08 03:27 AM, falz3333 wrote:

If everything is mathematics then transcend it with art. If everyone goes to hell enjoy life. If their is only nothingness that awaits us then love someone and they will stay with you forever.

you are so poetic. can i love you to stay with me forever?

Full Clip... Philisophical Genius. Anything else becomes your momma's problem.
Hip Hop's Finest

BBS Signature

None

Sensationalism

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:29 AM

Sensationalism FAB LEVEL 20

Sign-Up: 08/27/06

Posts: 4,021

At 6/22/08 03:18 AM, HeaterBurn wrote:
At 6/22/08 03:12 AM, Redface wrote:
At 6/22/08 03:08 AM, Short-Factor wrote: I have said it before and will say it again. "The world isn't flat anymore. Get the fuck over it."
Was it ever flat?

P.S. don't forget: Colons are your friends!
No colon is necessary is there is no list, and the two things he said in the quotation do not pertain or relate in any way. If he had said 'The world isn't flat anymore : It's round" Then the colon is appropriate. So don't lecture people in grammar unless you know what the fuck you are talking about.

I think he meant like this:

I have said it before and I will say it again: "The world isn't flat anymore. Get the fuck over it."

My first choice would be a comma, but I support the colon.

I remember Heliopios as a spammer.
Sig made by this super awesome person named cast.

BBS Signature

None

falz3333

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:30 AM

falz3333 LIGHT LEVEL 05

Sign-Up: 07/27/07

Posts: 344

At 6/22/08 03:29 AM, FullClip92 wrote:
At 6/22/08 03:27 AM, falz3333 wrote:
If everything is mathematics then transcend it with art. If everyone goes to hell enjoy life. If their is only nothingness that awaits us then love someone and they will stay with you forever.

you are so poetic. can i love you to stay with me forever?

depends what you mean..........okay!

Killer whales inhale the pail


None

Charon

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:31 AM

Charon LIGHT LEVEL 25

Sign-Up: 03/22/03

Posts: 2,226

reality is perception, there are no universal truths

as you say we are the result of chemical and electrical pulses in the brain and that is all we are, our main purpose in life is to recreate and further populate our own species and to expend energy.

when we die that is it the end, man created religion as a way to comfort his fear of the unknown


None

HeaterBurn

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:32 AM

HeaterBurn LIGHT LEVEL 01

Sign-Up: 04/22/08

Posts: 69

Newsflash: You're wrong. Let's take a look:

At 6/22/08 03:12 AM, Redface wrote:
At 6/22/08 03:08 AM, Short-Factor wrote: I have said it before and will say it again: "The world isn't flat anymore. Get the fuck over it."
See where I fixed the problem (you know, the one I was actually refering to)? I doubt it, since you're such a near-sighted dimwit.

Near-sighted means you can only see things up close, you twat. In which case I would be able to see exactly what he typed. A colon wasn't compulsory here, a period or comma would make perfect sense and wouldn't disrupt reading.
If he was sitting a test, a colon would go down well, but here on Newgrounds where a percentage of the people are illiterate fools, I don't think it matters.


None

emma-existential

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:34 AM

emma-existential DARK LEVEL 02

Sign-Up: 05/30/08

Posts: 432

We're debating grammatical error?

Emma's signature is a lie.


None

Link24l

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:35 AM

Link24l LIGHT LEVEL 06

Sign-Up: 03/24/07

Posts: 896

obviously know one is explaining athiesm except like two i see everyone wants argue shut up and stop posting

its a cool site (click on sig)this is for those wo came here for porn

BBS Signature

Leering-Abstemiously NEUTRAL LEVEL 02

Sign-Up: 06/18/08

Posts: 132

Positives can always be concluded as negatives (or the other way around.)

We must point out to athiests reasoning itself leads to self-contradiction, not only from a theistic point of view, but from a non-theistic point of view as well... It is this that we ought to mean when we say that we reason from the impossibility of the contrary. The contrary is impossible only if it is self-contradictory when operating on the basis of its own assumptions.

"A truth is not necessary, because we negatively are not able to conceive the actual existence of the opposite thereof; but a truth is necessary when we positively are able to apprehend that the negation thereof includes an inevitable contradiction. It is not that we cannot see how the opposite comes to be true, but it is that we are able to see that that the opposite cannot possibly be true."


None

TwistedPersonality

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/22/08 03:41 AM

TwistedPersonality EVIL LEVEL 05

Sign-Up: 06/15/08

Posts: 837

At 6/22/08 03:05 AM, Michaelas10 wrote: I like where this thread is going.

Total failure?


All times are Eastern Daylight Time (GMT -4) | Current Time: 07:57 PM

<< Back

This topic is 2 pages long. [ 1 | 2 ]

<< < > >>
You need a Grounds Gold Account to post on the NG BBS! If you don't have one, click here to sign up now! It's fast, free, and easy — and opens up tons of great NG features!