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Forum Topic: Taking Suggestions For The Next Mac

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Hey guys. I know the results are not out yet. I can't help it if people make promises and can't deliver. I envy LJCoffee for getting out while he could... damn him. Enough emo talk, lets get down to business.

Since everybody has been going on and on about how much the past 2 MAC's suxed. I am now taking all suggestions for the next upcoming MAC! Until the 20th that is. After which I will be creating a poll on my site, and you can all vote for whichever one you want to participate in.

If I get no feasible suggestions, or nobody takes this process seriously, I will seriously rape the eyes out of anybody who complains about the MAC's ever again, so lets do this, and do it right!

We have currently.

Nav - Experimental MAC. Make it as funky or as head messing as you can! Use anything and everything at your disposal! However note that random percussion samples, and random timed sounds and just stupid mess submissions will be ridiculed and insulted heavily.

And that's really it. Yes, I've gotten one suggestion thus far. So let's hear it guys! What's the next MAC gonna be!?


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I certaintly know what you're talking about, but for those people are don't know what a MAC is, could you maybe explain? :D

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Well I love this idea!!

Because the video one didn't work for some of us because SOMEONE didn't see the pm from SOMEONE in their inbox MAESTRO!!! >:[[

You could write a short story and see what people can make using pure imaginated images from the words?
I mean, it sounds like a good idea to me, I liked the video idea. I just wish I could have seen it. At least this way no one has to worry about anything but reading (oh shut up... reading ain't bad for you)

Just a suggestion for ya buddy!

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Hey man, I have a couple of Ideas:
1 - FL Core contest: I realise this has been done by good ol' Dj-Nate...But its a good idea. Basically, you can only use the samples and generators available in the Producer Edition of FruityLoops. It is a real test of one's creativity and skills...But is worth the effort, you will be suprised how much you learn!
We would have to come up with an alternative for Reason/Garageband users though XD

2 - Redo The song: You come up with a melody, bassline, chords and stuff for a song, and then leave it up to people to make a proper song out of it. They can use anything at their disposal, and would be encouraged to add their own style and flair to the piece. That way, people can showcase their musical style by choosing their own genre and stuff. You could provide a Flp/Midi for people to start with.
But everyone might get sick of the same old melody ^_^

3 - Generic "Free for all": You could always just make it so people can do whatever the hell they wan't. Unfourtunatley, people will just submit their most recent masterpieces, and wont put any effort into a 'competition only' piece. use this as a last resort only!

4 - Themed Contest: Choose a theme that people have to stick to, such as a "Castle Crashers Theme" theme ^_^ (already been done, I know) That way, people acually have to put some thought and effort into their submission. The theme could be anything! And we could have a vote r something for that.

5 - Video Game Remix: Choose a single video game, or video game company...and remix/redo a theme from one of the songs available there. So...you could do a Final Fantasy song, Nintendo Game song, Sonic, Zelda, Mario Bros, Kriby etc etc...

6 - King of the Genre: Simple. Choose a genre/genres, and that/they can be the categorys for submissions. You could have: Classical, Trance, Dance and Ambient (examples only), and people submit songs that fit the genre perfectly, and the best one's in each genre are declared the "King of the Genre" and stuff.

Thats about all I can come up with for now, but hopefully these are some good ideas, or will spawn some more/better ideas for other users. But I think the main idea should be to include everyone, and give everyone included a fair chance.

All I know, is that I WILL be competing!

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Geez Nintechno, those ideas are awesome!!
I would definitely love to try some of those!

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A huge thanks for the hefty bulk of ideas my good sir. At the least you are throwing them out there. Though good natured there are some problems with these ideas which will result in them failing. Allow me to explain.

At 6/14/08 12:10 AM, Nintechno wrote: Hey man, I have a couple of Ideas:
1 - FL Core contest: I realise this has been done by good ol' Dj-Nate...But its a good idea. Basically, you can only use the samples and generators available in the Producer Edition of FruityLoops. It is a real test of one's creativity and skills...But is worth the effort, you will be suprised how much you learn!
We would have to come up with an alternative for Reason/Garageband users though XD

The idea is good however we would need a judge who has all 3 or more engines used, and knows all the basic sounds in them to make sure nobody cheats, and trust me, SOMEBODY(S) will cheat with this idea. "Duhr, it's a 3xOSC, I SWEAR!"

2 - Redo The song: You come up with a melody, bassline, chords and stuff for a song, and then leave it up to people to make a proper song out of it. They can use anything at their disposal, and would be encouraged to add their own style and flair to the piece. That way, people can showcase their musical style by choosing their own genre and stuff. You could provide a Flp/Midi for people to start with.
But everyone might get sick of the same old melody ^_^

HouseMasta used to run a MRAC Monthly Remix Audio Contest, which had this feature. First one had 1 melodic line, the second had 3, and third one never came out, but I assume he would have had 5. This is a valid option, added to the list!

3 - Generic "Free for all": You could always just make it so people can do whatever the hell they wan't. Unfourtunatley, people will just submit their most recent masterpieces, and wont put any effort into a 'competition only' piece. use this as a last resort only!

The judging on this WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE! Everybody would be like "Well my style is just not appreciated, but I assure you, it is the best song of them all!" and the whining and the bitching would just never end. One thing everybody is good at in Newgrounds is taking any award moment, and then screwing it up with "Good job, you're an undeserving idiot >:(!".

4 - Themed Contest: Choose a theme that people have to stick to, such as a "Castle Crashers Theme" theme ^_^ (already been done, I know) That way, people acually have to put some thought and effort into their submission. The theme could be anything! And we could have a vote r something for that.

A bit vague my good sir. Themed contests are all valid, but we need theme ideas.

5 - Video Game Remix: Choose a single video game, or video game company...and remix/redo a theme from one of the songs available there. So...you could do a Final Fantasy song, Nintendo Game song, Sonic, Zelda, Mario Bros, Kriby etc etc...

No. I'm afraid I can't ask TomFulp for money if we're going to be doing work off somebody elses work. These contests should be completely creative and original.

6 - King of the Genre: Simple. Choose a genre/genres, and that/they can be the categorys for submissions. You could have: Classical, Trance, Dance and Ambient (examples only), and people submit songs that fit the genre perfectly, and the best one's in each genre are declared the "King of the Genre" and stuff.

Same as idea number 4. Insane judging, hellish nightmare, bitching and whining, hundreds of entries... ugh...

Thats about all I can come up with for now, but hopefully these are some good ideas, or will spawn some more/better ideas for other users. But I think the main idea should be to include everyone, and give everyone included a fair chance.

Agreed, that's why we're looking.

All I know, is that I WILL be competing!

I look forward to it ;D!

And the story reading idea is actually pretty good. Added!


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Why not just say "write a song featuring the kazoo in the key of G in 6/8 time" or something? That'd be fun.
Or maybe since there's that contest CBC is gonna do soon, we could have a "make a sports show theme song" MAC. I like that one too :)

Of course, there's always the option to upload some sound clips somewhere and telling us to make a song with those or something. I think that could create some awesome results.


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Well the only problem with another FL Core competition is that not everyone here uses FL studio...

You know we could always do a gabber competition. lol.


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We could do a... Wait for it... Most creative hand clapping competition!

Wut?

Seriously though, CnB we could do FL Core, Reason Core, Logic Core, ect.
It could work... Maybe?

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apple core

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We could help out the flash artist and do a loop contest.

Make the song Max of 30 seconds long and must loop. You could also pick a sub category EX: 30 second action loop, or 30 second ambient loop.

Though the contest might be hard to judge with the amount of submissions that could possibly be made. Just putting it out there.

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I like the FL Core idea, but it would be nice if WASP was included in the possible components. Maybe XXL Edition instead of Producer Edition?

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At 6/14/08 01:59 AM, Anth0n wrote: I like the FL Core idea, but it would be nice if WASP was included in the possible components. Maybe XXL Edition instead of Producer Edition?

If it were XXL Sytrus would just rape everything lol. Atleast the people who know the power of it.

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At 6/14/08 02:17 AM, Mrmilkcarton wrote:
If it were XXL Sytrus would just rape everything lol. Atleast the people who know the power of it.

Then limit Sytrus how much you can use it?
One or two synths only?
Even one or two would drive people off the wall. Sytrus is a BEASTLY tool.

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Okay, so...Most of those Ideas aren't going to work.
How about this?

1 - Cultural/Ethenic: Entries must be themed around a specific culture or Ethenic group. For example, someone could choose Japanese and would have heaps of Taekos (Japanese drums, I think thats how you spell it) and a Zen-style harp. And african theme would feature bongos and other ethenic drums. An Aboriganie (Australian Natives) would have a digeredoo in theres. Basically, you choose a specific native group of people, and incorperate their musical flavours and techniques in with your own. The winner would be the one who has the entry that best incorperates the selected Culture, with their own flair and style.

2 - Emotional: This a good one! The hosts (Maestro and Co.) would select an emotion, such as love, anger, depression etc. And people have to create a submission that best personifies that emotion, which would allow for a range of genres and styles to be used. Alternativley, you could set a number of emotions, and choose the best of each emotion. The way to judge this one, would be to see how listening to each submission affects your mood. The closer to the theme, the better!

3 - Hypervelocity: The idea of this one, would be to illustrate through sound, an eventuall increase in speed. The trick however, is that you would NOT be allowed to change the temo of your song at any time. This would test the creative skills of artists, as they would be required to start the song off 'slowly' and then increase the 'speed' so that by the end of the song, the song seems 'faster'. Would be a great way to provide songs for future parodies of the upcoming "Speed Racer" movie.

4 - Electronic March: This is an idea I had a long time ago, but have never managed to make a proper song. The basic idea is to make a millitary march song, but in a techno/electronic style. You could also make it a rock style for people who like that kind of thing. But yea, would have a snare-drum line, and some trumpets etc. but with a bassline and synths. Cool huh?

5 - Newgrounds Theme: This would be super popular, or super stupid. But you make a song that personifies Newgrounds, or a specific are of Newgrounds, such as the forums, or portals. Could be good to be used in future flashes, and Newgrounds promotions.

6 - Environment/: Choose an environment, and make a song themed around it. You could have a nice mellow sound for a beach, or a crazy hard-rock sound for a volcanic area. This is probably the best idea I've had thus far, and probably has the most potential. Judges would be looking for the entry that best personifies there chosen environment. A couple could be: Sky, Space, Cave, Jungle, Desert, Snow, City, Underwater, Volcano, Swamp, etc.

Okay, there's some more ideas for you Maestro!

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What happend to the RMACs? I liked remixing stuff for those competitions.

Maybe you can do a NG song remix thing. Where the competitor picks a peice from the NG AP and either improve it, add to it, or totally remake or remix it. Preferably a song that was made by someone who doesn't have very good skills at mixing (aka NOOBS) so the big guys can show the little uns how it's done....

and the best remake or w.e wins....

I think this would be awsome cuz you could remake dimrain's songs with cooler synths and stuff.... idk

just a thought...


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Well Nintechno, I must say I like the idea about Emotion the best of all!

Seriously, we should do that!


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At 6/14/08 05:20 AM, MICHhimself wrote: Well Nintechno, I must say I like the idea about Emotion the best of all!

Seriously, we should do that!

lol, thanks. I think the Emotion and Environment ones are the best. Not just because anyone can choose whatever Environment/Emotion they want, and interpret it in their own way, but because nobody will be at an advantage. A noob can still beat a pro, if they have a better undertanding of what they want to achieve.

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if there's a lack of good ideas, a genre-themed contest always works.

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At 6/14/08 06:58 AM, Rucklo wrote: if there's a lack of good ideas, a genre-themed contest always works.

"6 - King of the Genre: Simple. Choose a genre/genres, and that/they can be the categorys for submissions. You could have: Classical, Trance, Dance and Ambient (examples only), and people submit songs that fit the genre perfectly, and the best one's in each genre are declared the "King of the Genre" and stuff."

...Way ahead of ya buddy. But as Maestro said, some people will be all like "Zomg, you don't understand, it perfect, you just dont see it the way I do."
Its because a genre can be interpreted in many different ways. And opinions will dramatically differ.

Regardless of that point, I would still have no problem with it ^_^

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yeah i saw your suggestion, i wasn't trying to steal your glory of suggesting it, i just wanted to point out what i did, you loof :p

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I like Nav's idea.
I think maybe working off of something like nintechno's idea of remixing a song, except that instead of using music, have some vocals to build a song around, maybe some recordings by ladyarsenic, if she'd agree to it. Because I think what Rig did with the vocals from the sample song in FL in the FL core challenge was damn cool.
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There's my suggestion on something I'd love to compete in. I might think of more later.

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Isn't LJCoffee around ? I remember PMing him a bunch of MAC suggestions, but i can't remember what i wrote to him. If he still has the message, he could add the suggestions i made.

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j-pop song - j-pop combines orchestral, with singing, and techno, and awesome guitar - how can you go wrong? :P

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At 6/14/08 04:06 AM, Nintechno wrote: 2 - Emotional: This a good one! The hosts (Maestro and Co.) would select an emotion, such as love, anger, depression etc. And people have to create a submission that best personifies that emotion, which would allow for a range of genres and styles to be used. Alternativley, you could set a number of emotions, and choose the best of each emotion. The way to judge this one, would be to see how listening to each submission affects your mood. The closer to the theme, the better!

This is exactly what I was going to say, there has never been an emotional MAC. It's all about bone breaking, agressive themed songs (Except for the christmas theme).

This one should be it, it'd be interesting to hear what you people come up with.

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At 6/14/08 02:17 AM, Mrmilkcarton wrote: If it were XXL Sytrus would just rape everything lol. Atleast the people who know the power of it.

Also, its not fair to people like me who don't have XXL :(... I only have producer edition, and I'd be a happy man if I could use Sytrus.

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At 6/14/08 01:21 PM, Nav wrote:
At 6/14/08 02:17 AM, Mrmilkcarton wrote: If it were XXL Sytrus would just rape everything lol. Atleast the people who know the power of it.
Also, its not fair to people like me who don't have XXL :(... I only have producer edition, and I'd be a happy man if I could use Sytrus.

wow sucks to be a non-XXL user haha :P

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At 6/14/08 01:47 PM, Chronamut wrote: wow sucks to be a non-XXL user haha :P

Not really, if you apply my golden rule of audio software: If a payware version exists, there is always a freeware product which does the same.

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At 6/14/08 05:07 AM, Father-of-Death wrote: Maybe you can do a NG song remix thing. Where the competitor picks a peice from the NG AP and either improve it, add to it, or totally remake or remix it. Preferably a song that was made by someone who doesn't have very good skills at mixing (aka NOOBS) so the big guys can show the little uns how it's done....

and the best remake or w.e wins....

I think this would be awsome cuz you could remake dimrain's songs with cooler synths and stuff.... idk

did anyone get that at all?

w.e. I thought it would be cool because there's alot of people who have no clue what they are doing with the program they use but their knowledge for music is amazing. So that would be cool if you had to search around the AP and look for a good song to remake and get the other nooby people more involved in the forums too maybe and stuff i donno.


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At 6/13/08 11:46 PM, MaestroRage wrote: I envy LJCoffee for getting out while he could... damn him.

Ha ha... Don't damn me :) - It wasn't intentional, I just had a huge (and unpleasant) pile of real life land on my head earlier this year and it took up almost all of my time to get it sorted out.

I'm willing to help out where I can. Just let me know what you need boss. ;)

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