"I don't believe in jews"

[FUNKbrs]

Take a deep breath.

See your knee jerk reflex?

Yeah.

Turn that shit off.

Now, let's look at history.

What IS a jew? Well, a jew, as we are told by post WW2 history, is a type of european alien who was ousted from their home country of israel after the Crusades. Now, a gypsy has the exact SAME history in every way, except for the country of origin. How then is a jew really different from a gypsy?

My argument here is that any true "jew" would NEVER abandon the promised land from the Torah. That in fact, all true jews have another name: Palestinians.

Who then are these deserters claiming to be descendents of Jerusalem? GYPSIES. Their bloodlines long ago adulterated by local european blood, they no longer have any claim on their home land after having lived away for so long.

What follows then, is the statement "There is no such thing as a Jew" because any TRUE jew would be called a Palestinian, and any refugee from the Crusades is merely another type of gypsy.

Why would a gypsy, then, claim to be a jew? Well, as we know, the Holocaust was just as much focused on killing off the gypsies as the jews. Therefore, being a gypsy and faced with extermination in a christian nation, what defense would you take? You would claim the holiest origin ever, you would claim to be the same race as the Christ, a jew. Then you could compare your persecution to the persecution of christ, and compare your persecutors to the forces of Satan. It's the ultimate moral highground.

Of course, if you consider an argument based on a lie to be "moral highground".

So then, since any TRUE descendent of the nation of Israel that was founded by King David, who is symbolized by the "jewish" star of David, would be PALESTINIAN. They would not be called jews at all. This leaves no room for foreign "jews" at all, merely lying gypsies trying to play on the religious superstitions of powerful indigenous populations.

Remember, this post isn't anti-semitic, because, basically, it attempts to disprove the existence of semites (aka jews) in the first place. I don't blame anyone for their parents lying to them about their heritage. As an american, I was told my country was founded by relgious zealots, and NOT crazy land speculators. Ends up that was crap. Therefore, I can't blame someone for having been raised under lies. Just keep an open mind, especially if you'e a gypsy confused about your muddy racial heritage.

[fli]

Well...
I think a Jew is in the same predictament like a Mexican.

A Mexican isn't so much a race than a people. I feel a Jew is the same thing.

We can see that even if we just study Biblical passages, and no DNA readings. Abraham And Sarah was probably a Sumarian (assuming if "Ur" is the same city "Ur" in Sumarian Literature). Hagar, his wife, was definetly an Egyptian. Ruth, who is the primoridal grandmother of Jesus and King David, is a Moabite.

Jews thus have several ethnic peoples in their blood heritage. But obviously the Jews never stood still, because they have created communities through out the world AND intermarried peoples there. I mean, how do we get White looking Jews when the people starte orginally a Mesopotian people?

Jews to me is more of a culture based on the worship through the Torah than an actual race.

[Creek]

At 6/11/08 02:42 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: Take a deep breath.

See your knee jerk reflex?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, LOL!

Turn that shit off.

Okay.

Now, let's look at history.

Sure.

What IS a jew?

A person who is Jewish.

How then is a jew really different from a gypsy?

A Jew is Jewish.

My argument here is that any true "jew" would NEVER abandon the promised land from the Torah.

They were forced to abandon it. Nobody wanted to.

That in fact, all true jews have another name: Palestinians.

Palestine was a name given to the Kingdom of Judah after the Romans conquered it in order to crush Jewish nationalist feelings. Arabs took the name "Palestinians" in order to appear as the rightful owners of "Palestine". But this is of course a different issue.

Who then are these deserters claiming to be descendents of Jerusalem?

Jews, who were descendants of Jerusalem.

GYPSIES.

Lol what?

Their bloodlines long ago adulterated by local european blood,

You know there were Jews in many different places that were not Europe. There were Jews in Iraq, Yemen, Morocco, Ethiopia, Syria, Mexico (Yeah i was shocked too, my freind is a Mexican Jew), and other places all over the world. Oh yeah, also Japan. Found out when I saw this.

What follows then, is the statement "There is no such thing as a Jew" because any TRUE jew would be called a Palestinian,

Any true Jew would be called a Jew.

and any refugee from the Crusades is merely another type of gypsy.

Why would a gypsy, then, claim to be a jew?

Because he was Jewish.

Otherwise, I think anybody would want to avoid being identified as Jewish.

Well, as we know, the Holocaust was just as much focused on killing off the gypsies as the jews. Therefore, being a gypsy and faced with extermination in a christian nation, what defense would you take? You would claim the holiest origin ever, you would claim to be the same race as the Christ, a jew. Then you could compare your persecution to the persecution of christ, and compare your persecutors to the forces of Satan. It's the ultimate moral highground.

Except they didn't care, and that didn't save anybody's life.

So then, since any TRUE descendent of the nation of Israel that was founded by King David, who is symbolized by the "jewish" star of David, would be PALESTINIAN.

No, they would be Jewish or an Israelite.

They would not be called jews at all.

But they are Jewish.

Remember, this post isn't anti-semitic, because, basically, it attempts to disprove the existence of semites (aka jews) in the first place.

Even though there is proof that Semites (aka Jews) exist.

[zoolrule]

You really think it's so simple that you can just prove it in one paragraph? Alot of people smarter than you studied and researched this whole thing of what is a "Jew", and it's far far more complicated than you think.

I personally didn't understand even one thing of your whole message but maybe read this and learn a bit.

[reviewer-general]

It really hinges on whether you consider a Jew a descendant of the Israelites and Hebrews, or just anyone who follows Judaism.

I always consider the word "Jew" to indicate the latter, and the word "Hebrew" to indicate the former.

;

[slothfromabove]

ITT - a jackass trying to use semantics to disprove an accepted fact.

youve obviously got over excited, now go stop breathing for a while till your brain cools down

[FUNKbrs]

At 6/11/08 03:19 PM, Creek wrote:

A person who is Jewish.

Sorry bucko, I'm afraid you can't use a word to define itself. That would be like saying the color red is a color that is red.

A Jew is Jewish.

Um..... Yeah. That whole, "can't define a word with itself thing." No, really, you can't. Didn't I just tell you to turn off that knee-jerk reflex? Please note how I fail to respond to your repetitive tomfoolery.

They were forced to abandon it. Nobody wanted to.

What does consent have to do with anything? The fact is they DID abandon it. Just because a man doesn't want to die doesn't make him any less dead after he's been murdered, and the same goes for the former nation of israel and the current european insurgency in Palestine.

Palestine was a name given to the Kingdom of Judah after the Romans conquered it in order to crush Jewish nationalist feelings. Arabs took the name "Palestinians" in order to appear as the rightful owners of "Palestine". But this is of course a different issue.

Actually, no. This is my main point. The "holy land" was God's gift to the Jews FOR ETERNITY. Therefore, a true "jew" could not possibly leave the promised land. He would have broken the covenant, and would cease to be jewish in any sense other than vanity. The jews who remained became palestinian or died. They didn't get a choice. Those who fled abandoned their God as well as their home, whether they admit it or not. Remember, judaism isn't just a race, it's also a religion, and if you abandon the religion, you abandon the race.

GYPSIES.

Lol what?

You heard me. Gypsies. What we call every other vagabond race of refugees with no true homeland.

Their bloodlines long ago adulterated by local european blood,

You know there were Jews in many different places that were not Europe. There were Jews in Iraq, Yemen, Morocco, Ethiopia, Syria, Mexico (Yeah i was shocked too, my freind is a Mexican Jew), and other places all over the world. Oh yeah, also Japan. Found out when I saw this.

Wait... you say jew, but if they don't live in the Judaic holy land... how can they be jewish? Dark skinned people in America may CALL themselves african, but take them to africa, and it becomes VERY clear they're just dark skinned americans. If you take a refugee of Israel, and raise him in Germany, HE'S GERMAN.

Any true Jew would be called a Jew.

Hey look, a parrot! Wait.. no... it's just you again.

Because he was Jewish.

Yeah.. right. Because people never lie about their heritage to make it look better. I mean, look at Abraham Lincoln, america's WORST president ever. A little revisionist history, and WHAM! he freed the slaves. But no, he was the only president so horrible he allowed the country to fall into civil war over tax revenues.

Otherwise, I think anybody would want to avoid being identified as Jewish.

Not want to claim to be the same race as the Christian saviour? I don't think so. Especially not in a christian nation. I refuse to buy into that propaganda of shame. If jews existed, there would be nothing wrong with being a jew. The shame comes from the fact that jews don't exist, so anyone claiming to be a jew is just a lying huckster, and in the case of Zionists, land hungry as well.

Except they didn't care, and that didn't save anybody's life.

Ouch. Because.. Umm... It kind of DID. You see, without christian sympathies, the rest of the world would have allowed appeasement to continue unabated because... well, Hitler was actually pretty good at running things. At least he was before the gold pills, at any rate. So then the "lying about being jewish" strategy is VERY much a valid hypothesis. :

No, they would be Jewish or an Israelite.

But you just said Israel was destroyed by the romans... How can you be a citizen of a non-existent nation? Because I sure don't see any gypsies claiming to be of Prussian heritage. It was either destroyed, or it wasn't. If it wasn't, then all "jews" are just deserters, and the indigenous people are the rightful inhabitants. If it was, then, well, it WAS, and they aren't any jews anymore. Either way, no more jews.

Even though there is proof that Semites (aka Jews) exist.

No, there is proof they existed AT ONE TIME. They no longer do. Again, please note the marked absence of the earlier examples of both Hitler and Abraham Lincoln. Neither one currently exists, and anyone claiming to be either is clearly lying.

I take it you believe the guy in the insane asylum claiming to be Napoleon is really him, don't you? So far your arguments sound like you're just repeating things you're told, as opposed to looking at things from your own, more objective perspective. Don't let people tell you what is.

[FUNKbrs]

At 6/11/08 03:38 PM, reviewer-general wrote: It really hinges on whether you consider a Jew a descendant of the Israelites and Hebrews, or just anyone who follows Judaism.

I always consider the word "Jew" to indicate the latter, and the word "Hebrew" to indicate the former.

;

But neither is possible. Both the hebrew nation AND the hebrew religion were irrevocably destroyed. The people claiming this heritage are at best just playing house in a derelict property. How can there be a hebrew religion without a temple in Israel? How can there be a hebrew people if Israel ceased to exist, even if a country that was named in honour of the original was built by non-jews in memorial on the site of the old country.

It would be like building a set of twin towers on the site of the old ones, and then claiming they were the same towers. Just because your parents bought a new hamster and didn't tell you your old one died doesn't mean you have the world's only 10 year old hamster. It means you were lied to.

[Creek]

At 6/11/08 04:04 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: Sorry bucko, I'm afraid you can't use a word to define itself. That would be like saying the color red is a color that is red.

No it's more like saying a Christian is somebody who follows Christianity. You asked me what a Jew was and I told you exactly what a Jew is.

A Jew is Jewish.

Um..... Yeah. That whole, "can't define a word with itself thing." No, really, you can't. Didn't I just tell you to turn off that knee-jerk reflex? Please note how I fail to respond to your repetitive tomfoolery.

So a Jew is not Jewish?

Palestine was a name given to the Kingdom of Judah after the Romans conquered it in order to crush Jewish nationalist feelings. Arabs took the name "Palestinians" in order to appear as the rightful owners of "Palestine". But this is of course a different issue.

Actually, no. This is my main point. The "holy land" was God's gift to the Jews FOR ETERNITY. Therefore, a true "jew" could not possibly leave the promised land.

If he was forced to, then I think it's possible.

He would have broken the covenant, and would cease to be jewish in any sense other than vanity. The jews who remained became palestinian or died.

So they had to convert to Palestinian? It's not a religion or a race. It was only a name used to designate the area that was the former Kingdom of Judah. Those "Palestinians" were still Jewish.

They didn't get a choice. Those who fled abandoned their God as well as their home, whether they admit it or not.

You're not the judge of that.

Remember, judaism isn't just a race, it's also a religion, and if you abandon the religion, you abandon the race.

Judaism is a religion.

Wait... you say jew, but if they don't live in the Judaic holy land... how can they be jewish?

They follow the Judaism religion.

Dark skinned people in America may CALL themselves african, but take them to africa, and it becomes VERY clear they're just dark skinned americans.

African Americans

European Jews
Yemenite Jews
Iraqi Jews
American Jews
Mexican Jews
Japanese Jews

If you take a refugee of Israel, and raise him in Germany, HE'S GERMAN.

If this refugee of Israel was Jewish.
He is a German Jew.

Any true Jew would be called a Jew.

Hey look, a parrot! Wait.. no... it's just you again.

Okay, so a Jew is not a Jew.

Because he was Jewish.

Yeah.. right. Because people never lie about their heritage to make it look better.

Being known as a Jew in Europe was the worst thing you could do to make your heritage look better.

Otherwise, I think anybody would want to avoid being identified as Jewish.

Not want to claim to be the same race as the Christian saviour?

They also believed the Jews killed Jesus. Other Anti-Semitic rumors were also widely accepted.

If jews existed,

If elephants existed...

The shame comes from the fact that jews don't exist,

I'm glad to let you know I exist. And I am not a bot!

so anyone claiming to be a jew is just a lying huckster,

Anti-Semite

and in the case of Zionists, land hungry as well.

Anti-Semite

Except they didn't care, and that didn't save anybody's life.

Ouch. Because.. Umm... It kind of DID.

Yup, we all heard of the Germans' tender feelings toward Jews.

You see, without christian sympathies, the rest of the world would have allowed appeasement to continue unabated because... well, Hitler was actually pretty good at running things.

Anti-Semite

No, they would be Jewish or an Israelite.

Either way, no more jews.

Lol, hi.

Even though there is proof that Semites (aka Jews) exist.

No, there is proof they existed AT ONE TIME. They no longer do.

So Jews are Imaginary Creatures. Oh wait, they're just liars. Why are they liars? because you said so.

Again, please note the marked absence of the earlier examples of both Hitler and Abraham Lincoln. Neither one currently exists, and anyone claiming to be either is clearly lying.

That's because they're dead. There are Jewish people who aren't dead.

I take it you believe the guy in the insane asylum claiming to be Napoleon is really him, don't you?

Actually I could care less about Napoleon, and I have no clue on what you're talking about.

[uhnoesanoob]

Ah you caught me, I'm just a gypsie in disguise.

[Tony-DarkGrave]

At 6/11/08 04:55 PM, uhnoesanoob wrote: Ah you caught me, I'm just a gypsie in disguise.

then im a NAZI in disguise.

[Imperator]

Sorry bucko, I'm afraid you can't use a word to define itself. That would be like saying the color red is a color that is red.

How DOES one define the color red anyways?

I guess it'd have to be through associations or by knowing the wavelength.....

[Idiot-Finder]

Controversal topic = tons of replies

I tend to shy away from making one myself.

[poxpower]

I applaud this thread.

Reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where the dentist guy ( he played the dad on Malcom in the Middle ) converts to Judaism for the jokes he could make after.

Also note that religious people are generally terrible at defining religions because they're usually stupid and ignorant about world views and facts, as is demanded by being religious in the first place.

[Tony-DarkGrave]

At 6/11/08 05:08 PM, poxpower wrote:
Reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where the dentist guy ( he played the dad on Malcom in the Middle ) converts to Judaism for the jokes he could make after.

I saw that episode it was pretty good

[FUNKbrs]

At 6/11/08 04:49 PM, Creek wrote: No it's more like saying a Christian is somebody who follows Christianity. You asked me what a Jew was and I told you exactly what a Jew is.

Technically you just applied the identity principle, which says that if X exists, then X=X. I don't have to know WHAT X is to say X=X, because the identity principle is a mathematical law based on a logical proof.

So a Jew is not Jewish?

I don't believe in jews. Stop trying to scare me with your fairy tales.

If he was forced to, then I think it's possible.

But you don't KNOW. Because let's face it, if you investigated, you'd prove to yourself that I'm right, and the idea of modern day jews is a remnant of old WW2 propaganda.

So they had to convert to Palestinian? It's not a religion or a race. It was only a name used to designate the area that was the former Kingdom of Judah. Those "Palestinians" were still Jewish.

Technically they were converted to Islam by the sword. But, technically Mohammed was the second coming of the prophet, so they kind of had it coming. Yes, Jesus DID come back and reign on this earth, and they called him Mohammed and his rule is still in power in many places.

You're not the judge of that.

Just because I'm not "officially" in charge of making that decision doesn't mean I can't be right. In fact, there's a logical fallacy based on assuming that just because someone isn't an expert doesn't mean they can't be right. Even retarded people know some things.

Judaism is a religion.

Then why do you have to inherit from your mother or be converted in a VERY long process?

They follow the Judaism religion.

Which can't exist because there is no temple. There are synagogues, but no more temple.

African Americans

European Jews
Yemenite Jews
Iraqi Jews
American Jews
Mexican Jews
Japanese Jews

Jumbo Shrimp
EZ tax form
generous lack

HEY! THIS IS FUN!!!

If this refugee of Israel was Jewish.
He is a German Jew.

No such thing as israel. Soo........ he's just german.

Being known as a Jew in Europe was the worst thing you could do to make your heritage look better.

...other than being a gypsy, although frankly, they're the same thing.

They also believed the Jews killed Jesus. Other Anti-Semitic rumors were also widely accepted.

Um, the jews DID kill jesus. Who was also a jew. It's not anti-semitic. It's factual. But if it helps, the romans helped kill jesus too. The point was that ALL people were so evil that someone purely good like Jesus couldn't possibly survive. It was supposed to be the proof that nice guys finish last.

I'm glad to let you know I exist. And I am not a bot!

Lol gypsy, you almost fooled me!

Anti-Semite

Gypsy

Anti-Semite

Gypsy. WOW! Logically fallacious ad-hominem attacks ARE fun. Thanks my new gypsy friend!

Yup, we all heard of the Germans' tender feelings toward Jews.

I believe it was the English's tender feelings towards the jews, but whatever. I know it wasn't the russians. They know a gypsy when they see one.

Anti-Semite

Gypsy gypsy gypsy. Hey look, the more I say it, the more true it becomes. YAY!

Lol, hi.

Sneaky gypsy!

So Jews are Imaginary Creatures. Oh wait, they're just liars. Why are they liars? because you said so.

No, because historically they don't exist. It's not my fault. Blame the historians who documented the destruction of the temple. Ooh, and the archaeologists, too.

That's because they're dead. There are Jewish people who aren't dead.

LOL. You're funny. He'd have to be thousands of years old! Well, I guess maybe Jesus counts....

Actually I could care less about Napoleon, and I have no clue on what you're talking about.

People pretending to be people they're not because they're ashamed of who they are. You know, like a gypsy claiming to be a jew so he can get a banker's licence, a medical doctorate, or pass the bar exam.
Silly gypsy.

[zoolrule]

Dude, So much bullshit in one thread, i seriously don't know where to start. Don't even know if i want to start because i know i'll just waste my time and eventually win.

[Prinzy2]

I have a question, and I don't really know how to be politically correct about it, and I'm not educated on the subject at all.

The "Jews" abandon their homeland, every one that generation die off. Now at this point, nobody is a Jew. However, if they return are the children born in the Jewish homeland considered Jews?
Or does the Torah say that anyone born to a "Jew" who abandoned the homeland is no longer a Jew?

[Renan93]

WTH??? YOURE CRAZY. It doesnt make any sense! How can you not believe in jews? Being jew is believing in the judaism, not living in that fucking city that I dont know how to write in english >.< .
Anyway, I think that what youre saying doesnt make any sense! I mean how can a jew be something else than a jew?
Generally, in modern secular usage, Jews include three groups: people who were born to a Jewish family regardless of whether or not they follow the religion, those who have some Jewish ancestral background or lineage (sometimes including those who do not have strictly matrilineal descent), and people without any Jewish ancestral background or lineage who have formally converted to Judaism and therefore are followers of the religion.
So jew are also people that are followers of the judaism and not only lineage or being born in the land of Judaea.
One more thing: VAI PRO INFERNO , CARALHO
I hope you didnt get that :P
See ya!

[mrdurgan]

At 6/11/08 06:15 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

Technically they were converted to Islam by the sword. But, technically Mohammed was the second coming of the prophet, so they kind of had it coming. Yes, Jesus DID come back and reign on this earth, and they called him Mohammed and his rule is still in power in many places.

WRONG! the muslims rarely ever made forcible conversions on subjugated peoples, they were simply given second-class citizen status of dhimmi's (as long as they were monotheist.) the muslim empires were generally far more tolerant, liberal and scientifically advanced than the west throughout the middle ages. christians and zoroastrians gradually converted voluntarily but the jews managed to retain their religion. this is supported by well respected historians like bernard lewis. read his book 'the jews in islam', you might learn something.

[homor]

YOU NEED A TEMPLE AND A CITY TO BE A RELIGION.

following the teachings and belifes? GO FUCK YOURSELF, ITS NOT REAL.

reading from the exact books made back than? GO FUCK YOURSELF, THEY'RE NOT REAL.

worshiping god in the jewish tradition? GO FUCK YOURSELF, HE MAY OR MAY NOT BE REAL, BUT JEWDISM IS FAKE AS SHIT YO.

[Renan93]

That's because they're dead. There are Jewish people who aren't dead.

LOL. You're funny. He'd have to be thousands of years old! Well, I guess maybe Jesus counts....

Sorry to say but Jesus is dead, I know he was a good guy and all but hes dead. I know it'll be hard for you to get over that because its so "incredible" that everyone dies someday.

[SmilezRoyale]

It's both a culture and a race, [since segregation for thousands of years forced them into inbreeding.]

[homor]

for anyone still confused, let me clear it all up.

YOU NEED A MAGIC TEMPLE TO HAVE A RELIGION.

[zoolrule]

At 6/11/08 07:46 PM, homor wrote: for anyone still confused, let me clear it all up.

YOU NEED A MAGIC TEMPLE TO HAVE A RELIGION.

and a nation.

Or a land to be a race.
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Otherwise you are a gypsy

[Elfer]

At 6/11/08 02:42 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: My argument here is that any true "jew" would NEVER abandon the promised land from the Torah.

Incorrect.

You just need to look at the sole of the left foot to check for the presence of the TrueJew (tm) seal of authenticity.

[poxpower]

At 6/11/08 06:15 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

The point was that ALL people were so evil that someone purely good like Jesus couldn't possibly survive. It was supposed to be the proof that nice guys finish last.

haha Funk fell into the christian propaganda of seeing Jesus as good.

What is so good about him?
We know he didn't do any of the miracle cures because we KNOW people like that today, They're called faith healers, or psychic healers or whatever. They're ALL OVER INDIA. They don't cure a single person that wouldn't be cure otherwise.

Jesus was absolutely nothing more than a cult leader. Nothing else. NOTHING. Who, today, would respect that? No one! All he did was walk around faith-healing random people, preaching the bible and living off people's kindness like a leech.

That's all he did. That's Jesus, AT BEST if he even existed! An annoying cult leader that threatened the power of just a few too many people and god crucified. That may have been the biggest mistake any jew has ever made because it gave Jesus enormous street cred.

Jesus was just a little fucknut exploiter. Any man/woman who works at Wal-Mart and McDonald's 40 hours a week is a MUCH better person than Jesus.

[Creek]

At 6/11/08 06:15 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

At 6/11/08 04:49 PM, Creek wrote: No it's more like saying a Christian is somebody who follows Christianity. You asked me what a Jew was and I told you exactly what a Jew is.

Technically you just applied the identity principle, which says that if X exists, then X=X. I don't have to know WHAT X is to say X=X, because the identity principle is a mathematical law based on a logical proof.

No, it's more like you asked me what a Jew was, and I presented you the definition.

If he was forced to, then I think it's possible.

But you don't KNOW.

Okay, let me correct that sentence. If he was forced to, it is possible.

Judaism is a religion.

Then why do you have to inherit from your mother or be converted in a VERY long process?

Because it's a religion.

African Americans

European Jews
Yemenite Jews
Iraqi Jews
American Jews
Mexican Jews
Japanese Jews

Jumbo Shrimp
EZ tax form
generous lack

HEY! THIS IS FUN!!!

You completely ignored what I was pointing out. You can be a Non-Israeli Jew.

Um, the jews DID kill jesus. Who was also a jew. It's not anti-semitic. It's factual.

So present me the facts. Mel Gibson isn't an acceptable source.

So Jews are Imaginary Creatures. Oh wait, they're just liars. Why are they liars? because you said so.

No, because historically they don't exist. It's not my fault. Blame the historians who documented the destruction of the temple. Ooh, and the archaeologists, too.

According to you: A religion ceases to exist once a building is destroyed.

[therealsylvos]

At 6/11/08 02:42 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:
What IS a jew? Well, a jew, as we are told by post WW2 history, is a type of european alien who was ousted from their home country of israel after the Crusades. Now, a gypsy has the exact SAME history in every way, except for the country of origin. How then is a jew really different from a gypsy?

By post WW2 do you mean totally innacurate?
European?
Crusades?
WTF?
Read about the Jewish Diaspora
I assume this is a joke thread since its so laughably false. But whatever.

[homor]

At 6/11/08 08:18 PM, poxpower wrote: What is so good about him?
We know he didn't do any of the miracle cures because we KNOW people like that today, They're called faith healers, or psychic healers or whatever. They're ALL OVER INDIA. They don't cure a single person that wouldn't be cure otherwise.

so you met jesus and he was defienatly like those people?

lets face it, nethier me nor you will ever be able to prove who jesus was, all we have to go on is our faith.

you have faith he wasn't the son of god, i have faith he was.

for all ethier of us know, he could have been freddy mercury.