At 8/14/09 04:51 PM, loansindi wrote:
At 8/14/09 04:46 PM, Calamaistr wrote:
What advertisement? Do i earn anything from doing this? I think on the contrary i have a much larger chance of being completely 'zero bombed' as you people call it just for this post. But why should i care, im only asking for a bit of empathy.Coming into the forums and disregarding the rules to post a thread about how great of a composer you are and how it's not fair that your tracks are voted so low, and then linking one of your tracks, one of those actions is an advertisement.
this topic is not about my skill as a composer, but my background has the right to weigh in on the topic wich is actually about defining intellectual music, as in music that has thought to it preferably based on the divine measure as music is far more than just something that can sound good, there is a whole fractal logic behind it that can even draw architectural design (see the rosslyn motet).
But ok appart from that its also about what i have noticed, that it seems that classical works are no longer apreciated, and i want to be proven wrong in that thought and see if there are actually people here that agree, and also make music that way instead of just looking for a repetitive pattern resembling pacobell with a few default drums that because of the fl quality allows people to wave their limbs to the left and right without them having the feeling it looks stupid wich it would if there were no sound.
And to the mod who locked my topic, you couldve just removed the part in wich i asked to listen to my track and tell me if it was worth voting low on didnt you, instead you misinterpeted the whole topic or are just a child that does in no way care about actual music pick one. For the topic i dont care, but i still want my discussion to carry on so im going to put my complete OP without the request below:
Look, i can understand that there is an expectation with all the people using fruity loops nowadays concerning sound quality, im not here to contest anything about that, but where i come from music is about the composition, not about the sharp pitch and the loud drums, i know it is in todays club culture where people dont really care about the melodical math and just want something to move their genitals on, not contesting anything there either (appart from that i personally stay away from that as much as i can.)
Im from a classical and oldschool world in wich quality was a luxioury for studios and you had to make something complicated to get some ears, and i still make music that way even though i now have fruity loops ive been noticing about myself i dont like working with it as much as i like playing an actual piano or using older programs that to me are much user-friendlier if you are of the kind that dont want to mix and scratch things but put together everything yourself. I know that the options in fl are many but its just not for me.
Ive tried, and i still try, and will probably keep trying to make my old tracks in fl with better quality instruments.. still.. the more i think about it the more of a chore it seems, the more of a obstacle it becomes, i dont want to end up in a league see, ive always had my own style and my own sound.
So now having done this short about the why let me come to what i want to say:
Voting low on my new fl work i dont mind, ive just began working with fl anyway but how the hell is it possible that one of my best older works is voted down.. its gravely insulting. But instead of taking this to personal it has made me think less about NG as a place for my music. I also noticed how popular hiphop oriented pulp is here, i also noticed how amateuristic compositions with a decent percussion glued under it seem to do well in the charts, so even though i only had a few votes yet on my work it tells me enough.
Im not here to go apeshit and tell everyone how good i am, i have my flaws but music is a natural thing for me. I am a natural music creator, a natural composer and i have been this for years, i have had many recognitions and even music teachers being intrigued by my work.. So this here.. is like im making a beautiful painting in a monkey den and the monkeys end up ripping the painting appart. Its a complete lack of musical intellect, im sure there are more composers who have experienced this because there really are good tracks on NG but just as many bs track with high ratings.
Its a shame enough i can only upload 2 tracks a day because i have over 500 pieces in total, with about 40 of them on my pc and the rest safe on cards.
I know some of you will use this post as a trigger to ruin my musics score even more but go right ahead its not like you will make it any worse than it already is, i already know that this place probably isnt the right place for my music, beats me why i keep uploading.
Overall my logic tells me that im a bit jumpy perhaps, afterall the track has only rested on NG for a single day and i already feel it as an insult seeing its score, and i know topics like these have been posted before wich didnt end well but i dont care about that. I just want to know if there is any reason for me to continue uploading my work, if there are atleast 10 people out there that actually apreciate it.
Because that would be enough for me.
Yes well. its from a period of game music and i used music® as a program (not on pc, on console) and have done so for years. I make every single sound myself, admitted from existing sounds but i always edit those into something else, such as making a custom type of rhode bells from flutes etc.
The only drawback is that when i convert music to my pc, there is both a quality reduction from the tulp-cable and the worst being it converts to mono wich is only again converted back into stereo trough audacity. So all in all i end up with a lack of surround effects ive used in several tracks (in fact i need to edit certain songs putting all the music on R-out to keep it from actually recording certain notes) and an annoying static. But its the price of an easy personally friendly method. At least it has been up till now that i have FL.
Every time i think about putting some percussion together i emediately get a sense of 'blergh' inside me, i just cant bring myself to use different rolls for every individual sound that i then have to filter with effects to make echos etc, im completely used to do literally everything myself, every effect you hear in my old music, i did personally with for instance individually placed notes that i individually tuned down volume wise see. Thats such a giant difference with programs like fl.
Today there are programs that make stuff echo, and there are samples that contain certain effects on their own. It all seems so extremely robotic while i always had so much pride in getting the same things done with my own hands, im almost afraid people cannot recognise such as something someone would actually do himself anymore or emediately wonder why someone would do that in the first place when you can just use a tool.
Hm.. ill always keep making classical and oldschool works, for instance the bit music from megaman, now that was good gamemusic, you can put as much orchestral strings and d&b kicks into a track it will never top a mathematical perfected melody. Even if people who think that way are getting few im afraid...