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Ok, so now, I will explain to you my theory of time travel. It isn't really a theory, though, because it is all
true. Once I thought of this, it changed the way I think about the way that the universe works. I hope it can do the same for you.

Time travel is the idea of moving an object or person backwards or forwards in time. It is impossible. This is because time is a concept developed by man. Time is basically a measure of the duration at which matter continues to exist. As any matter is now existing, the time it has existed has increased. To help explain this point, look at the following example.

Time relative to matter:

Tree Tree (Now)
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----------->
Time

As the tree continues to exist, as does time. Now, to travel back in time, would be to travel back to when the tree was in its first instance, or in other words, when the tree had existed for a lesser amount of time. So, time travel is impossible because time, which is represented by the arrow, is a concept and is not tangible. So, time travel is now conceivably possible. But, if you cannot change time, maybe there is something else you can change?

The only other thing to change s the tree (matter), so we cannot time travel, but the closest thing to it which is conceivably possible is to change all matter in the universe to a point where has the same properties that it had at a point in the history of time, except the person who is traveling in time. Also, this person would need to go to the person who is about to time travel again, and tell them not to, because otherwise the universe will be set on an infinite loop. Some people may say that this would mean that the whole incident never happened, but it actually did, but now it is happening again, but the person is changing the sequence of events.

I hope you have enjoyed my theory on time travel, please post comments, or add to this if you have any other interesting ideas. Thank you for reading.


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Tree Tree (Now)
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Time

Sorry the diagram was messed up.

My Theory of Time Travel


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Dumbass. All you need to do is go 88 mph in a delorean

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At 6/9/08 06:15 AM, matrixparody wrote:
I hope you have enjoyed my theory on time travel, please post comments, or add to this if you have any other interesting ideas. Thank you for reading.

Your theory is wrong and has no basis in contemporary physics. It's based on the assumption that time can only move in one dimension, and that somehow the fourth dimension is just something we invented one day.

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I think we'll figure out teleportation before we figure out time travel. Manipulating space comes way easier, because it's shit we can see.

and haha why does the spellcheck not recognize teleportation as a word


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At 6/9/08 06:26 AM, WtfAwesome wrote: This is the list of people who care:

Does that mean I care by posting after you?

I don't.

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Do you think we will ever be able to control ´time´?


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Theres more than one time taking place. Right now there is, in theory, another time happening at this very moment. For example, it is 2008. While 2008 is in play, there could also be another time such as 1808.

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At 6/9/08 06:25 AM, Rabid-Echidna wrote: Your theory is wrong and has no basis in contemporary physics. It's based on the assumption that time can only move in one dimension, and that somehow the fourth dimension is just something we invented one day.

No, it's based on the assumption that the concept of time is just something we invented one day. Also, multiple dimensions is a theory, and I based this totally on fact.


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At 6/9/08 06:33 AM, lilscientist wrote: Theres more than one time taking place. Right now there is, in theory, another time happening at this very moment. For example, it is 2008. While 2008 is in play, there could also be another time such as 1808.

Sorry, I don't study the timecube.


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At 6/9/08 06:19 AM, MojoFilter wrote: Dumbass. All you need to do is go 88 mph in a delorean

Don't forget, you'll need a flux capacitor and some plutonium.


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At 6/9/08 06:36 AM, matrixparody wrote:
No, it's based on the assumption that the concept of time is just something we invented one day. Also, multiple dimensions is a theory, and I based this totally on fact.

So time goes on forever, but we're basically the same as when time was invented?

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At 6/9/08 06:36 AM, matrixparody wrote:
No, it's based on the assumption that the concept of time is just something we invented one day. Also, multiple dimensions is a theory, and I based this totally on fact.

Inventing the concept of time is the same as observing anything else. Time is pretty self-evident so we gave it a name, your attempt at saying it doesn't exist is flimsy and based on nothing. If you're going to pull the "it's just a theory" card, atomic theory is still a theory. Discrediting something just because the word "theory" comes up is the same reasoning fundamentalist Christians use whenever someone calls them on their nonsense.

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Theres a sound barrier. Theres a light barrier. What if theres a time barrier? If someone were to go so fast as to they can get somewhere in 0.00000etc. seconds, would the known universe be torn apart? Would be destroyed in an endless paradox?

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At 6/9/08 06:49 AM, lilscientist wrote:
Theres a sound barrier. Theres a light barrier. What if theres a time barrier?

Sound is vibrating air particles and light is a wave particle, both of which move at a certain speed. Saying that you're trying to beat time in a race from point A to point B doesn't make any sense.

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This kid is right on the money.

Time is a mesurement of quantity.

Uh. . . . ..

. . .the universe is finite matter so everything that has happened may happen again, albeit in different sequences of events.

However I disagree; I believe time travel IS possible; all you have to do is reverse the direction of it. . . . . . yeah.


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Time is relative and does not progress linerally for all objects. This is not some pathetic half baked theory, it has been backed up by many different experiments and theories (Your know, like Einstein's theory of relativity). Yes time travel on a macroscopic scale may very well be impossible, but that is because, to our knowledge any wormhole capable of functioning as a time machine would need to be constructed out of exotic mater. This does not mean that worm holes could not exist, but that they would not be able to convey any information.

Your right that time is intangible, but it is measurable. Your entire idea is rooted in the idea that time has to be linear, like a river. Let be ask you this, why does time flow in one direction and one direction only? The answer it entropy. Everything in the universe has the tendency to move from as state of higher potential energy to lower potential energy. One the universe has reached uniform levels of energy, entropy will be complete and time will become meaningless to the point where it might even cease to exist.

For that matter, even while time appear to flow from a state of high energy to low energy, that may not be the case. There is no evidence that time does not branch into possibilities of that it even exists. Until we know all these things will won't know if time travel is possible. Under current theories of the universe, its really not (you could argue some but the fact is that it is impossible to construct an infinitely long spinning cylinder or something of the sort)

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At 6/9/08 06:29 AM, risbolla wrote:
At 6/9/08 06:26 AM, WtfAwesome wrote: This is the list of people who care:
Does that mean I care by posting after you?

I don't.

No, actually I think he meant that no one cared.

I just stated the obvious!

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At 6/9/08 06:54 AM, Wolferz wrote: No, actually I think he meant that no one cared.

Noone cares about time travel?


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At 6/9/08 06:52 AM, Rabid-Echidna wrote:
At 6/9/08 06:49 AM, lilscientist wrote:
Theres a sound barrier. Theres a light barrier. What if theres a time barrier?
Sound is vibrating air particles and light is a wave particle, both of which move at a certain speed. Saying that you're trying to beat time in a race from point A to point B doesn't make any sense.

But it's the theory. If you can get somewhere so fast that time can't be measured at that moment what could happen?

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At 6/9/08 07:05 AM, lilscientist wrote:
But it's the theory. If you can get somewhere so fast that time can't be measured at that moment what could happen?

If it took you no time at all then it wouldn't be travel at all. If your travel time is zero seconds, you can look at it more like a picture since time isn't really included in the system. It would mean that you would be in two places at once, which doesn't make sense in terms of spacial dimensions. It would require some sort of bizarre wormhole looping around on itself and somehow existing outside of regular space to be even theoretically possible, and if such a thing existed it wouldn't be subject to either time or even spacial dimensions in the first place. No part of the scenario has any basis in reality, it's not a matter of breaking physics.

Suddenly I find that all those negative thoughts creeping around in the back of my head have been shot to the front in a blaze of unwelcomed glory.

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At 6/9/08 07:05 AM, lilscientist wrote: But it's the theory. If you can get somewhere so fast that time can't be measured at that moment what could happen?

Time is a measurement, like inches or liters. They would just make a smaller measurement.


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The way I figure, Flying Saucers and Time Machines are the same thing. I think alot about these kinds of things, and think about it, there had to be a time when there were no people right. So take South America for example, every year thousands of people go missing down there, but where do they go? I'll tell you. Flying Saucers, which are actually? Yeah you got it . Time Machines.

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I sort of see where you're coming from here. Basically you're saying time is a human created concept so it's impossible to move something that's not real, like matter or anything, right?

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At 6/9/08 07:24 AM, CapnCrunchDaPimp wrote: I sort of see where you're coming from here. Basically you're saying time is a human created concept so it's impossible to move something that's not real, like matter or anything, right?

yes.


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At 6/9/08 07:26 AM, matrixparody wrote:
At 6/9/08 07:24 AM, CapnCrunchDaPimp wrote: I sort of see where you're coming from here. Basically you're saying time is a human created concept so it's impossible to move something that's not real, like matter or anything, right?
yes.

Cool, I got it right. Anyways, you have my vote Mr. Senator.

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At 6/9/08 06:15 AM, matrixparody wrote: Time travel is the idea of moving an object or person backwards or forwards in time. It is impossible. This is because time is a concept developed by man. Time is basically a measure of the duration at which matter continues to exist. As any matter is now existing, the time it has existed has increased. To help explain this point, look at the following example.

Time is not simply a measure of our own decay, time is a Fundamental Quantity. Read up on spacetime, Time can be affected by the curvature of space, proof that time travel is technicaly possible, if not actually implementable in a science fiction sense. Read Hawkings "A Brief History of Time"

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At 6/9/08 07:32 AM, Me-Patch wrote: Read Hawkings "A Brief History of Time"

*A Briefer History of Time. It's easier =)

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