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At 5/31/08 03:48 PM, idiot-monarch wrote: Are you kidding me? I've had cigarettes on numerous occasions, but I'm far from being addicted.

Fucking hate those things.

I love this post. You claim you aren't addicted and you "fucking hate those things" yet you have smoked them "on numerous occasions." Either you are a moron for doing something you hate that offers no overwhelming benefits or you are addicted and in denial.

At 5/31/08 03:58 PM, NetWar wrote:

At 5/31/08 03:54 PM, solardave wrote:

At 5/31/08 03:51 PM, NetWar wrote:

At 5/31/08 03:42 PM, Objection wrote: Oh, and becoming impotent.

I hope you can back this up.

Everyone should know smoking makes you impotent. Proof.

Men who smoke are more likely to develop impotence than non-smokers.

Do not post it as fucking fact, jackass.

Fine more likely, it still makes it more likely thus making it a risk. Why are you even trying to defend the effects of smoking anyway? The big picture is it is bad for you.

At 5/31/08 03:42 PM, jewdudewtf wrote: From what I hear, it taste awful, and the people I know who smoke only do so because they are so addicted.

Also, another bad point, makes your breath and you smell like shit.

lol just don't do it

At 5/31/08 04:00 PM, skatin-andy wrote:

At 5/31/08 03:48 PM, idiot-monarch wrote: Are you kidding me? I've had cigarettes on numerous occasions, but I'm far from being addicted.

Fucking hate those things.

I love this post. You claim you aren't addicted and you "fucking hate those things" yet you have smoked them "on numerous occasions." Either you are a moron for doing something you hate that offers no overwhelming benefits or you are addicted and in denial.

I see what you mean. What I meant was that I've tried them very little times over a long time. I've had about five of them in four years (omg peer pressure). And I've never really gotten into them.

Keep on flaming, I know you want to.

Don't smoke...

-Many different kinds of cancer
-Asthma
-Waste of money
-Second hand smoke
-Addictive

You forgot to mention the money.

But anyway, there's other ways to calm you down. I don't have to be inhaling a burning plant in my lungs, I could just be whacking at my rooster.

If you're talking about cigarettes, don't do it. So much money, so unhealthy, so addictive.

Now marijuana, that's a definite yes.

At 5/31/08 03:43 PM, hamz10 wrote: so how many cigarettes do you have to smoke before you actully get addicted?

1, it's more addictive than cocaine.

No question about it - Bad.

I don´t care about having a shorter life, who the fuck wants to be a senile 90 year old anyway.
But i still don´t smoke because there really aren´t any benefits. And people who are addicted to cigarettes waste a lot of money on them.

At 5/31/08 04:00 PM, Objection wrote:

At 5/31/08 03:58 PM, Sekhem wrote: smoking makes you live longer and cum harder

Smoking cigarettes doesn't. Smoking oxygen does.

no fuck you

smoke marijuana.

At 5/31/08 04:09 PM, idiot-monarch wrote: I see what you mean. What I meant was that I've tried them very little times over a long time. I've had about five of them in four years (omg peer pressure). And I've never really gotten into them.

Keep on flaming, I know you want to.

Well you did say numerous so that would imply a lot. I still don't understand why you try them after you know you hate them. There are very few things in life that you like after hating them. Cigarettes are even worse because why would you want to like something that has almost no benefits. It's just stupid.

Peer pressure. HAHA.

At 5/31/08 04:54 PM, Sekhem wrote:

At 5/31/08 04:00 PM, Objection wrote:

At 5/31/08 03:58 PM, Sekhem wrote: smoking makes you live longer and cum harder

Smoking cigarettes doesn't. Smoking oxygen does.

no fuck you

Sorry, why would restricted blood flow to the penis and a build up of toxins in your body help you live longer and cum harder?

Tobacco deaths >>>> cannibis deaths.

At 5/31/08 03:43 PM, hamz10 wrote: so how many cigarettes do you have to smoke before you actully get addicted?

Depends, sometimes it's the first one. For some people it takes more.

calms me down when i'm drunk and i hate to say it without sounding like i'm twelve but you look damn sophisticated when you have one

At 5/31/08 05:09 PM, Master-of-pancakes wrote: calms me down when i'm drunk and i hate to say it without sounding like i'm twelve but you look damn sophisticated when you have one

No you look like a rodent clinging to a thankless addiction. It doesn't get you high. It makes you sick. The only high you get is from the nicotine satisfying your built up craving, your chemical addiction.

At 5/31/08 05:10 PM, JackPhantasm wrote: No you look like a rodent clinging to a thankless addiction. It doesn't get you high. It makes you sick. The only high you get is from the nicotine satisfying your built up craving, your chemical addiction.

i only smoke when drunk though never anytime else cos i'm asthmatic

Smoking is bad. And the people who smoke die in their own idocy. Yet we still have to pay for their treatments.

If someone smokes around me intentionally, i'll take the cig out of their hand and crush it. Or shove it down their throats which I would prefer doing.

Don't do it unless you wan't to ruin your life with bad teeth, financial problems and cancer

I don't understand it when people say things like, it only feeds your addiction to make you feel better. Honestly, why does it matter? It's still more satisfying, it's like denying yourself the need to piss, or shit, and then when you do, it feels better than it normally would.

Or not eating, and when you finally get your hands on something, you're in heaven for that split second the food touches your taste buds.

But overall, if you plan on living long enough to feel the the bad effects later in life, it's better to not do it.

At 5/31/08 03:42 PM, Objection wrote:

The good:
"Got a light?" - pick up line

That's usually a bad pick-up line, unless it's a movie. Nobody finds smoking attractive unless they're really fucking stupid and shallow enough to go to a level where they think people who smoke are 'hard'. You can get attention with that line, but the smell of your smokey breath is a push-off indeed.

I find smoking retarded. Doing it screw up your lungs and makes your breath smell like hell, and the mos ironical part is that we hear a lot in TV or anywhere that smoking is bad, smoking gives you cancer, it makes your life shorter... and we still see a lot of people that smoke. And anyway, it doesn't make you look cooler. It's a deccission that you make.
I refuse to smoke a single cigar in all my life.

At 5/31/08 05:18 PM, pigeonmaster88 wrote: I refuse to smoke a single cigar in all my life.

but with cigars you hold the smoke in your mouth cigarettes you inhale them

As a smoker for about seven years, in my opinion, smoking is horrible. Healthwise.
I am addicted, and I can say that without hesitation. True, smoking does calm me, but also true, smoking slowly kills me.
I know the effects it has on me, but on the same page, I wouldn't dare stop.
Sadly, I simply love the taste, and as most people, I do what I love.

Be wise, don't start. It's not worth it.

smoking makes you physically weaker and if your dumb enough to even try it when you know there's no need, then that just makes you a dumbass.

Smoking doesn't makes you look cool. It just fucks up with your lungs, and if you think that smoking is cool, you're retarded.

In short words, smoking is bad.

my personal stance is they are as bad as heroine/cocaine and all the other illegal drugs, only difference being this stuff is legal so it's "accepted" by society(if some of the illegal ones became legal they would soon be seen as "accepted" within a few years) much like alcohole.

all of these provide either a relaxed/pysiological/mental sitmulant pretty much so that's why people obviously use them, i really don't see much of a difference between any of the drugs anyway. difference being the ones you smoke will kill you slower but generally you can easily OD on drink/injected drugs as people are to dumb to look up the word moderation(you can even overdose on food nutrients but it's much harder)

still if people wana smoke then go for it, you know the risks so you take them like everyone else does with whatever they do in life(moderation should always be the key)

i know people who are hooked on caffiene drinks, health food(its all good to live healthy but its to see when it turns into an obsession) etc, i'm probably hooked on masturbation i could argue given the amount i do it/places i do it.

i only hate that the hypocrosy i see these days of people viewing those who do illegal drugs as the scum of the earth(moderation is fine, crackheads i agree much like people who smoke 40+ fags a day) when they themselves are doing weed/fags because it's ok since they are "legal". that and people who heckle smockers annoy me, specially when i see a some fat person doing it "i'll put strain on my body eating this crap but i'll bitch at you for doing that bad habbit!")

rant over.

okay so which is better, pot or weed?