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Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 12:43:52 Reply

Is it wrong to be diverse in your music? last week i handed in my 23rd song ( 2 more :D ) and it was a very exceptional hip hop track with recorded drums, and some flute that i paied a girl in my class to do,( i took her out for lunch at the mandarin ohh man.... )

any way today my prof. pulls me out of the class and says somthing like this.

" what the hell is wrong with you, cant you just pick a genure and improve on it? your last 12 songs have all been trance and trance divisions and before that you where stuck on classical and ambiant.
why dont you just stick with trance!?"
This is the part where i point out that all my songs with the exception of one have been the top scoring in the entire class.
he says that he realizes that but he is just trying to make me reach my maximim potential...

do you guys think i should pick a genure and stick to it or continue on my genure bending ways and mash them together and use as many as i like. somthing i like to call innovation, the music industry seems to forget that that means lately....


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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 12:49:42 Reply

Whatever sounds good, I don't care what you do.

hy not have the best of both worlds and genre bend trance? O_O


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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 13:28:25 Reply

I think its important to be experienced in alot of different genres, ultimately that will help you expand on the one you're most focused on. By focusing on one type of music you can be severely limiting your potential as a musician, so unless you're goal with music is just to be signed by some record label for trance stuff, you should keep expanding and trying new things.


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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 13:32:44 Reply

^
and you would THINK a music professor would encourage such things, not discourage them....


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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 13:41:07 Reply

That's an odd thing for a music prof. to say...maybe he doesn't like hip hop. :o


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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 13:43:38 Reply

At 5/27/08 01:41 PM, DzGuy wrote: That's an odd thing for a music prof. to say...maybe he doesn't like hip hop. :o

Thats what i thought at first but about 60% of the class dose rap / hip hop.
it is funny when we are made to do a trance song, the rap people's songs are almost always shit. and the drums... dont even get me started, people who compose hip hop only can NOT do drums.


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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 14:04:18 Reply

I think you'd be better off sticking to one genre and actually getting to a professional level in it than doing all genres and not getting to a professional level in any of them, unless your like Leonardo Da Vinci or something.

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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 16:47:08 Reply

Diversity is key in music composition. I don't understand why your prof would come down on you like that for trying new things :S


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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 16:51:40 Reply

Your professor is absolutely right. If only that Beethoven fellow had stuck to piano music he might have made something of himself.

Seriously though, that sort of advice is modern marketing advice. It has nothing to do with developing as a songwriter or as a composer, and I'm surprised that it came out of your professor's mouth.

And oddly enough, marketing keeps inventing genres, all the while telling artists they should carve their niche in just one. Genres might be great for the classification of a finished work, but they contribute bugger all to creative process.

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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 18:35:22 Reply

For me it's whatever sounds good. I hate it hwne these preps come in with thier checkered hoodies and act like they own music. Being diverse is what keeps this world from becoming a waste land. If your music sounds good go with it, you owe it to yourself.

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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 18:45:21 Reply

well I know for certain that one mr. dannyNergy (click here) has stuck with trance and is SOOOOOOOOOOO GOOD
dude he got signed, he has to be good just because he got signed.

he got signed dude, he got signed, since he stuck to boring production techniques and didn't even bother to use good chords.

he got signed.

of course, he isn't a goddamn musician.

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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 18:49:34 Reply

Dude it is never wrong to be diverse in your music. My friend shadow617 is pretty diverse with his music. He does metal,rock,techno etc. A lot of people who create music predominately belong to one or few genre. But it doesn't mean you have to. Feel free to make whatever music you want. If it sounds good to you, then thats all that matters.


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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 18:55:16 Reply

New genres are invented by innovative people. One of the habits of innovative people are to break away from self limitations. You have to step out of the border every once in a while do something that people think your crazy for. People might think your stupid or retarded but hey, most people in history who stood out were considered crazy. I'm not talking about just music.

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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 19:07:51 Reply

At 5/27/08 12:43 PM, mariomusicmaker1 wrote: ... and some flute that i paid a girl in my class to do,( i took her out for lunch at the mandarin ohh man....)

you lucky bastard ... you just wanted to took that girl out, some tricks musicians do for getting girls :)))
:p

actually i'm joking (am I now?) ... as Rig pointed out, diversity is the key in music, i also make money out of teaching, so tell to that teacher to stick his teaching diploma deep down into his ass ... deep ... and burn it ... wait ... that's somehow wrong ...
and if you combine things in your original way you may actually invent a new thing ... and got signed ...

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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 19:21:35 Reply

At 5/27/08 06:35 PM, PixilProductions wrote: For me it's whatever sounds good. I hate it hwne these preps come in with thier checkered hoodies and act like they own music. Being diverse is what keeps this world from becoming a waste land. If your music sounds good go with it, you owe it to yourself.

...where the FUCK do you live where preps where CHECKERED HOODIES?

those arent preps.

preps are dawsons creek ripoffs. They seem to have shaggy hair nowadays too. A lot of them look like california kids.

And ya I think you should maintain a solid root in a genre and just expend here and there from it - kinda like a tree - with branches going out from the main genre. You go all over the place and you'll spread yourself too thin. It also sounds to me like you don't even know what it is yourself that you want to focus on. We all have our spirit in a general genre.

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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 19:28:59 Reply

At 5/27/08 07:21 PM, Chronamut wrote:
At 5/27/08 06:35 PM, PixilProductions wrote: For me it's whatever sounds good. I hate it hwne these preps come in with thier checkered hoodies and act like they own music.
...where the FUCK do you live where preps where CHECKERED HOODIES?
those arent preps.

LOL, I knew that would piss someone off. mmm life is good LOL:D

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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 19:29:51 Reply

At 5/27/08 07:28 PM, PixilProductions wrote:
At 5/27/08 07:21 PM, Chronamut wrote:
At 5/27/08 06:35 PM, PixilProductions wrote: For me it's whatever sounds good. I hate it hwne these preps come in with thier checkered hoodies and act like they own music.
...where the FUCK do you live where preps where CHECKERED HOODIES?
those arent preps.
LOL, I knew that would piss someone off. mmm life is good LOL:D

lawl - I hope you fail in the prep school rigotta and they fail you to death with their snobbery :P

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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 19:30:12 Reply

Being excellent in one genre is better than being mediocre in many genres.


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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 20:15:54 Reply

Sadly, your teacher is probably right.

I concur with MJJTomb. Mediocrity will get you nowhere, while excelling will.

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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 20:17:57 Reply

At 5/27/08 07:30 PM, MJTTOMB wrote: Being excellent in one genre is better than being mediocre in many genres.

Creating your own music is better than following a formula.


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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 20:33:29 Reply

Trance fans need explicit consitency.


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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 20:49:41 Reply

At 5/27/08 08:33 PM, Tome89 wrote: Trance fans need explicit consitency.

EXPLICIT NOOB UTTERANCE!~

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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 20:57:27 Reply

At 5/27/08 08:49 PM, Chronamut wrote:
At 5/27/08 08:33 PM, Tome89 wrote: Trance fans need explicit consitency.
EXPLICIT NOOB UTTERANCE!~

Well I guess overgeneralization. And n00b, not. I got bored with trance years ago. Grew out of it.


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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 21:15:08 Reply

Make what you love.

I make all sorts of music... and I make it all rather well (at least I think I do)

Limiting creativity will really screw you up. I make mostly metal, but I've been listening and playing Johnny Cash type stuff lately, but because of my metal background, I've successfully blended them together (not quite, it's just bluesy hard rock) But still

Diversify! Unless you plan on releasing an album. Then you gotta stick to one genre for that album, otherwise there will be no sales.

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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 21:21:35 Reply

At 5/27/08 09:15 PM, CyriltheWolf wrote: Make what you love.

if that was true every song I made would be f**king the anus of your mind :P

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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 21:24:16 Reply

At 5/27/08 09:21 PM, Chronamut wrote:
At 5/27/08 09:15 PM, CyriltheWolf wrote: Make what you love.
if that was true every song I made would be f**king the anus of your mind :P

Uh, I would kindly implore you to MAKE F**KING SENSE!

But seriously, what do you mean?

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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 21:38:26 Reply

Screw him and make your own genre, just to annoy him :D

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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 21:44:47 Reply

At 5/27/08 09:38 PM, HaniiPuppy wrote: Screw him and make your own genre, just to annoy him :D

Yeah, tell him your making a genre called ShitFuck, and say that your a ShitFuck teacher and what he teaches doesn't apply to you LOL:D

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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-27 21:45:03 Reply

I like how you guys think i should stick with one and others think i should spread it out but EVERY ONE OF MY SONGS except one HAVE GOTTEN +95% and top of the class :P
so yea i am still kinda stuck, but thanks for all the great points and stuff :D


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Response to Is it wrong to be diverse? 2008-05-28 00:13:00 Reply

Out of curiosity what class is this for?