Politic voting in EuroVi$ion 2008?

[madknight]

I watched EuroVision 2008. And i watched the votes too. And i really think the votes which the countries gave each other are mostly politic. For example Letonia gave votes to its neighbors or the countries which they are in buisness. Don't u think it is?

[P-I-N]

I think there is more monetary reasons than political ones.

[Figter]

At 5/25/08 04:00 AM, LastSpartan wrote: An interesting thing I noticed - why is Israel in Eurovision? Last I checked, Israel isn't part of Europe.

Also, go Kalomoira, no other country comes close to you!

Yeeah... i wounder that to but there are sure some reason i guess

[madknight]

Yeah Israel isn't in Europe. I didn't think about it. I realized now.

[madknight]

But not just Israel, let me tell ya Armenia,Latvia,Russia and the others. They aren't in Europe too. But Euro-Vision means European Vision. Then they can be the part of the competition. Right?

[Bruce-Wayne]

The Latvian entry was awesome :]

I mean, who couldn't love Latvian Dancing Pirates?

[zoolrule]

Israel is in the Eurovision since 1973, and they won 3 times already, and you noticed it just now?

Anyway the answer is : Do you except them to be with Iraq Iran Egypt Saudia and all of these lovely countries? They are Europeans from every aspect except Geographically, and they are close, I mean, cyrpus are 100KM from Israel.

And yea eurovision is political, always, is it your first time watching it? every year it was like that.
all of Sweden - Iceland - Norway vote to each other 8-12
Cyrpus 12 points Greece every year.
Portugal - Spain 12 ALWAYS.
all of the eastern countries vote each other, and Russia.

[sirtom93]

Cyprus vote for Greece and Greece vote for Cyprus every single year, its the location and past govermental influences - nothing else.

[Ledgey]

Eurovision could now suck.

Well done you politically voting bastards.

[lapis]

The organisers took the political voting into account during the semi-finals, so they decided to split up the Balkan, Nordic and Russian blocks and Greece and Cyprus were put in seperate contests. Greece and Russia had to compete against each other in the first semi-final, and Greece won (check the scoreboard!) with 156 points. Russia, unaided by some of its buddy states like Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus and the Ukraine, got the third place with 135 points.

This was a purely political victory.

Blegh.

At 5/25/08 06:50 AM, zoolrule wrote: Israel is in the Eurovision since 1973, and they won 3 times already, and you noticed it just now?

I don't mind Israel participating as long as they curtail the voting rights of the Russians. The Netherlands was a pretty vocal supporter of Israel back in the day and we were able to capitalise on that in terms of Eurovision points. I think it was 1978 when we submitted another awful song and Israel's 12 points accounted for a whopping third of our total votes.

Anyway the answer is : Do you except them to be with Iraq Iran Egypt Saudia and all of these lovely countries?

We'll call it SemiteVision. Israel will never get any points because their entry won't be broadcast in the other countries. Iran can't join though, they can start AryanVision together with Tajikistan.

[therealsylvos]

This is the first time in my life I have even heard the word "Eurovision".

Boorish American

[D2Kvirus]

The standard British whinge every year, everyone voting for their neighbour prevents the UK winning it. This ignores a few things:
1.) Ireland doesn't give the UK complimentary votes.
2.) A lot of European nations don't get on with their neighbours - can anyone see Serbia and Bosnia giving each other top marks, or Latvia to Russia?
3.) The UK entry is shite every year, and usually by some talent show reject trying to revive their non-career.
4.) There's a point where saying it's because of the Iraq war doesn't wash any more - such as when you're out of tune and hitting flat notes left and right, like Jemini a few years back...

Yes, there is a certain amount of block voting (Greece and Cyprus seem to give each other top marks every year), but it seems to be the British who use it as an excuse about their annual humiliation - of course, nobody considered that, if the voting is along political lines, why would the majority of Europe hate us?

Also, it's important to remember one thing: Lordi won for Finland in 2006, which was great!

[slothfromabove]

i thought the votes were done by phone poll these days? your telling me someone got all of the people in all of those countries to vote in a set manner and covered it up - impressive stuff.

The simpler answer is that the ex-eastern block countries just prefer tunes that come from that region, nothing more and nothing less. oh yeah, and we lose all the time cause our tunes are utter shite!

[AapoJoki]

At 5/25/08 09:28 AM, therealsylvos wrote: This is the first time in my life I have even heard the word "Eurovision".

If it wasn't for Eurovision, you would have never heard of ABBA.