Implants

[JoS]

What do people think of putting implants in every person for di purposes, similar to the ones found in dogs and cats. It would contain like your name, address and date of birth type stuff. The on;ly purpose of them would be to id dead bodies, people in acoma or perhaps lost/brainwashed people when found. No tracking devices or anything, and its only about the size of a grain of rice.

[bumcheekcity]

I thin it should be optional, and we make sure the thing is non-toxic and whatever, but it doesn't sound bad.

[Slye]

There's already a pilot program like this going on in certain cities, except to a deeper extent. The chip implanted has your vitals, as well as your medical records on it. It's used by paramedics in case you're ever involved in a serious accident. Now, they'll know you're allergic to penicillin, and that your pace maker would prefer if you weren't defibulated.

I think it's a really good idea, personally. And, while it shouldn't be manditory, I think that people should waive their right to suing paramedics and hospitals for neglegent behavior if they're administered something they have an alergy to, because they've opted out of the program. The amount of frivolous lawsuits in the US just sickens me.

[Chaoslight]

You think people suing hospitals because their loved ones were injected with medicine they are allergic to and going into a coma is frivolus?

HOWEVER, I do agree that this is an interesting idea, worthy of further consideration. One thing, to consider, though is that perhaps this is the first step to sub-dermal cell phones, credit cards, even computers. Would you want a cell phone inthe thumb and pinkie of your good hand, a credit card strip along the edge of your hand, or a palm pilot in your less dominant hand? Would you like computers to know where your hands are at all times?

[darkphantom]

At 10/10/03 05:32 PM, Chaoslight wrote: HOWEVER, I do agree that this is an interesting idea, worthy of further consideration. One thing, to consider, though is that perhaps this is the first step to sub-dermal cell phones, credit cards, even computers. Would you want a cell phone inthe thumb and pinkie of your good hand, a credit card strip along the edge of your hand, or a palm pilot in your less dominant hand? Would you like computers to know where your hands are at all times?

Maybe there is a guy who has put all these cybernetic implants into himself, giveing himself extra senses. And I have toyed with the idea myself on weather I would want to be a part of it and I decided in the end agenst it simpley becasue I have no trust in corperations and goverments at this moment. they could do whatever they like to you without you knowing.

that and you may get sickos sending computer viruses to them and that could casue all kinds of havoc especally if those things are linked to your brain.

so I would say maybe oneday... just maybe when we are all abit wiser and enlightend.

[NewgroundsSPG]

LoL,Just take a look at Brittney Spears..Shes like a fake barbie doll..

[I-Am-3]

i am personally against the idea of being scanned like a product you buy at the store..... i would like my privacy...this seems like a definite invasion.... sure they can say they won't use it for any sinister reasons, but how can you be certain of that? they could have satellites reading your brainwaves... i know that sounds paranoid... but with something like that, there is no limit to what they could learn about you, if you want to talk legalities, they could probably use it to test your body to find out whether you were intaking anything illegal to bust you....i just think the world is invasive enough as it is.... i can deal with the occasional accidental hospital death and occasional stupid lawsuit....if it means being tagged like an animal

[Chaoslight]

Good point. It would blow beyond all belief to be tagged. Speaking of which, how do all the animals feel with a big ol' plastic lump around their necks. (or wherever the tag them)

[Guitar-clock]

At 10/10/03 11:03 AM, RugbyMacDaddy wrote: and its only about the size of a grain of rice.

Very interesting. I like the idea!

[Guitar-clock]

At 10/10/03 10:01 PM, Guitar_clock wrote:

At 10/10/03 11:03 AM, RugbyMacDaddy wrote: and its only about the size of a grain of rice.

Very interesting. I like the idea!

hey wait a minute... can't the murderers cut it out of you¿

[JoS]

I dont understand how people can come around with such stupid lawsuits. If they inject you with a drug but had no idea you were allergic to it, because you had no medicalert braclet and were unconcious and nothing to warn them, its not their fault. Alot of murders arent like professional hits, mor eof shoot and run or shoot and dump the body, I dont think they care too much about diggin for a small implant, or hacking off a big chunk of your body, but I could be wrong I dont speak from experience, and if AMW says something differnt they are lying I tell you.

[House-Of-Leaves]

I know this sounds extreme...but it's how I feel.

Even if it was 'mandatory', I wouldn't do it. It has everything to do with privacy and the right to it, but it's also got a whole lot to do with my faith.

I will not be eartagged or marked like an animal.

[Pseudoname]

As much as I would like to believe that tracking capabilities won't be implated into these chips, I find the whole idea sketchy at best.

This is basically the same as placing a barcode on our neck and branding us.

[House-Of-Leaves]

At 10/14/03 06:10 PM, Psuedoname wrote: As much as I would like to believe that tracking capabilities won't be implated into these chips, I find the whole idea sketchy at best.

This is basically the same as placing a barcode on our neck and branding us.

MOOOO, brotha-man. Moo.

I agree.

Oh. Moo = AMEN.

[Slightly-Crazy-Dude]

At 10/14/03 06:10 PM, Psuedoname wrote: As much as I would like to believe that tracking capabilities won't be implated into these chips, I find the whole idea sketchy at best.

This is basically the same as placing a barcode on our neck and branding us.

I too think its a very "outthere" idea but, would it be a bad thing after all ??? As said above these people would have their stats logged into this chip which can be scanned and therefore saving their life. It does however bring "branding" into it, would you be treated as a social outcast if you didnt purchase one or would it be the opposite would people think that the people who purchase these are snobbish and "higher" in status than the rest??? Its still open to discussion.

[Pseudoname]

At 10/15/03 10:49 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: I too think its a very "outthere" idea but, would it be a bad thing after all ??? As said above these people would have their stats logged into this chip which can be scanned and therefore saving their life. It does however bring "branding" into it, would you be treated as a social outcast if you didnt purchase one or would it be the opposite would people think that the people who purchase these are snobbish and "higher" in status than the rest??? Its still open to discussion.

Call me crazy, call it seeing one to many sci fi movies, or whatever. I personally don't believe that this should be 'installed'. And honestly, how hard would it be to have this chip give off a low frequency wave. We already have things that do this already. Another Big Brother piece of equipment that I do not believe society needs.

[Cassidythapimp]

This is also a religious issue, and i'm suprised that noone has brought it up yet. In the book of revelations, it says that the AntiChrist will use a mark, the "mark of the beast" to identify those that follow him, and will eventually be necessary for all commerce. There are those out there that believe that Bush is the Antichrist, so this would further some people's belief that the end of the world is at hand. If you know your New Testament, what do you think about that?

[Slightly-Crazy-Dude]

At 10/15/03 10:51 PM, Cassidythapimp wrote: This is also a religious issue, and i'm suprised that noone has brought it up yet. In the book of revelations, it says that the AntiChrist will use a mark, the "mark of the beast" to identify those that follow him, and will eventually be necessary for all commerce.

Wow never thought about it that way...Now im gonna think hard on what im saying here. Its just the morality of it aswell, is there a greater good by getting this chip ?!? Or will it be societys downfall, people would know were you are and what youre doing almost every day and i dont think i could live with that.

[JMHX]

Call me a radical, but I like this idea very much. A little chip that can be scanned and give the vital statistics of a patient who is unconscious could become beneficial to the medical process in the coming years. Imagine the ability to track the last major change in a patient so as to clock WHEN and WHERE the injury happened in the body. As is the case with all technology, however, there are downsides to this, and chances for exploitation. However, no matter how secure any program is, it is never fully free of exploitation. I very much enjoy this idea, and would gladly volunteer to have one of these chips punched into mah flesh.

[Lyddiechu]

I agree, it sounds like a great idea.. as long as the chip did not control my vitals and could be tampered with therefore destroying me in the process.

I hate carrying shit around with me anyway, this would be great. Hell I am all for replacing my limbs with cybernetic shit anyway, why the hell not have a card with my info on it implanted under my skin?

Viva la technology!

[House-Of-Leaves]

At 10/16/03 05:54 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote:

At 10/15/03 10:51 PM, Cassidythapimp wrote: This is also a religious issue, and i'm suprised that noone has brought it up yet. In the book of revelations, it says that the AntiChrist will use a mark, the "mark of the beast" to identify those that follow him, and will eventually be necessary for all commerce.

Wow never thought about it that way...Now im gonna think hard on what im saying here. Its just the morality of it aswell, is there a greater good by getting this chip ?!? Or will it be societys downfall, people would know were you are and what youre doing almost every day and i dont think i could live with that.

I did bring it up, though vaguely, because I didn't want to pull the thread off topic. That's exactly why I wouldn't let them put a chip or mark on me.

As www.theonion.com put it..."Schwarzenegger Elected First Horseman Of The Apocalypse." *wink* I'm not gonna stay away from any of those little chips, if they come around. Y'know. The book of Revelations scared the shit outta me.

[House-Of-Leaves]

At 10/16/03 02:00 PM, House_Of_Leaves wrote: I'm not gonna stay away from any of those little chips, if they come around...

Uh. Take out that 'NOT' in there. I'm staying the hell away from them. LOL, I'm a dork.

[Cassidythapimp]

I aree with you wholeheartedly.

[JoS]

Long live technology. Think about it, one day we may not have to carry money around or credit cards, just put the chip to the scanner and ur off. The possiblities are endless.

[Pseudoname]

Isn't the chip implanted in our body ? So would we like, dig the chip out each time we had to scan it ?

As the possibilites are endless, so are the consequences and possible errors that come with this idea.

[JoS]

You put it just under the skin, about a cm or two and it gets scanned through the skin, it is possible since its done with pets already, although only their name adress and phone number are on it.

[Kenney333]

id have to have ALOT of faith in the people administering and handleing these things, otherwise theyll never tag me alive.

[JoS]

With our leaders today, what could possibly go wrong with this? How on earth could the upstanding leader of the US abuse this?

[NoMilkToday]

And...just about HOW many movies have we seen this done in?

[BIGMANBRAINY]

if you are talking leik mandatory stuff then no, that is bad. the government would prbably try to warp it. no one can take something and just leave it simple when there is so much more use they could squeez out of it. like the v chip for example.