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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-26 01:28:45 Reply

At 8/25/10 05:18 PM, Auz wrote:
At 8/25/10 02:21 AM, Jercurpac wrote: Also, the film has some of the best uses of 3D that I've seen since this new wave of 3D films started up. I still don't think 3D is more than a fad that passing through once again, but if you want to catch one of the better ones while it's around this is it.
I've seen a trailer for it and I thought the effects looked really bad to be honest. Mainly the piranhas looked very unreal, but the trailer was in 2D and maybe the 3D makes up for that.

Of course the CGI isn't nearly as good as, let's say, Iron Man 2. As far as the stereoscopic effects go though you get a lot of scenes where shit's flying at you from the screen and breasts are popping out and that's what I want when I see a 3D film. If the only point of 3D being in a film is just to have the illusion of depth then I don't see the point. It's a neat trick, but by the end of the film I'm no longer noticing it and it's effectively adding nothing to the film except and extra four bucks to the cost of my ticket.

I was expecting the low-brow humor, titties for the sake of titties, gore fest kind of thing you described, so I was surprised this movie scored so high under the critics. Do you suppose it scores so high because of the twist towards becoming a much more edgy film or were there any other good elements in it as well, like was there a good story behind it all?

The story is college kids are partying at a lake and this one kid decides to not babysit his little brother and sister so he can hang with this sleazy film producer who's making a Girls Gone Wild style video. You can probably guess how much depth that plot has beyond facilitating some fairly graphic nudity. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that critics are rallying around a film that, at it's core, is just sleazy exploitation, it's a genre that's dear to my heart. I honestly don't know why so many critics have decided to give a nod of approval to this one.

To me it wasn't really all that self-aware. Yes, the tropes are there but to me they were less tongue-in-cheek additions and more things that were there because they belonged in this film because it's just a sleazy film. So unlike a film like Planet Terror, which was an A film parading in B clothing this is thoroughly B-grade trash and I love it for it. Apparently the critics have come into some sort of hive mind agreement.


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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-26 02:46:29 Reply

At 8/26/10 01:28 AM, Jercurpac wrote: Of course the CGI isn't nearly as good as, let's say, Iron Man 2.

And not to completely turn this thread into me ruminating on Piranha, but that was kind of misleading of me. It may not be as flashy in the CGI department as the biggest budgeted films, bit I still thought it worked very well and it's filled with loads of non-CGI gore effects that are fantastic in how effectively convincing they are.


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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-28 18:38:05 Reply

Machete Trailer
This is the funniest trailer I have seen for years, I first saw it a few months ago but never brought it up here. I believe that I was first made as a joke and never intended to be made but they are now making it. Can't wait personally. Its so over the top, My favorite bit is the Mini-gun on the dirt bike at the end XD.

When this film comes out in cinemas everybody has to go and see it. Here is the Wikipedia page for more info.


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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-28 18:50:50 Reply

At 8/28/10 06:38 PM, Decky wrote: Machete

I can't wait for that movie. It will probably get a pounding by the critics, but it looks like a nice and dumb action movie. Now if only we can get DON'T! the movie...

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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-28 19:01:23 Reply

At 8/28/10 06:50 PM, Ptero wrote: Now if only we can get DON'T! the movie...

Personally, I think (and you may disagree, most people do) we need another completely stupid movie. The sort of movie that only Tom Green could do. Another Freddy Got Fingered basically. I know they get a bad rap by the critics but they can be quite funny.

Here is another trailer for an up and coming comedy film called "The Other Guys" starring Will Ferrell.


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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-28 19:09:33 Reply

At 8/28/10 07:01 PM, Decky wrote: Here is another trailer for an up and coming comedy film called "The Other Guys" starring Will Ferrell.

That came out a while ago. I saw it in theaters, and it was pretty damn funny. Mark Wahlberg needs to do comedy more often.

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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-28 20:55:31 Reply

I just got done watching 'Mongol' and I have to say it was truly epic. That is essentially the theme throughout the film. To capture the scope and size of not only the landscape of every scene, but the man the film portrays. As we all know Genghis Khan was a massively important man in history. The man lived large and this film manages to fit it all in. Granted it only depicts his early life until his seizing of power; but even that manages to occupy 2 hours and 5 minutes of film. Overall the film is wonderful. I would recommend it to anyone in the mood for a large scale film. Just don't expect battle scenes like LoTR.

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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-28 21:26:35 Reply

At 8/28/10 06:38 PM, Decky wrote: Machete Trailer
This is the funniest trailer I have seen for years, I first saw it a few months ago but never brought it up here. I believe that I was first made as a joke and never intended to be made but they are now making it. Can't wait personally. Its so over the top, My favorite bit is the Mini-gun on the dirt bike at the end XD.

When this film comes out in cinemas everybody has to go and see it. Here is the Wikipedia page for more info.

Yeah, I remember first seeing the trailer all those years ago and totally geeking out over it. However, when I saw the new trailer, I wasn't that impressed. It might of been because they now have A-list actors in this dirty, exploitation film - Robert De Niro, Jessica Alba, Lindsay Lohan.

That said, I then watched this and I got a nerd boner.

So yeah, count me in.


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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-29 06:27:51 Reply

At 8/28/10 09:26 PM, Jack wrote: Yeah, I remember first seeing the trailer all those years ago and totally geeking out over it. However, when I saw the new trailer, I wasn't that impressed. It might of been because they now have A-list actors in this dirty, exploitation film - Robert De Niro, Jessica Alba, Lindsay Lohan.

I can remember thinking that the film might be spoiled by the amount of A-listers in it. Its probibly still worth a watch, know I'll be watching it as soon as I can still.

That said, I then watched this and I got a nerd boner.
So yeah, count me in.

I watched it.
My word, that looks so cool. I simply have to see this movie now. There is no way around it, good to see that the over the top violence is still alive and well.


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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-29 17:31:12 Reply

I finally got myself to watching The Godfather (part 1). The DVD's been on my shelf for months now.

There isn't much to say about it I guess. I could see it is really good movie and I understand why it has gotten so much praise over the years. I just think that sometimes it was a little slow, especially compared to todays standards, but I believe older movies tend to be like that.

I wouldn't put it in my favorites, but it is definitely a must see in my opinion.

At 8/26/10 02:46 AM, Jercurpac wrote:
At 8/26/10 01:28 AM, Jercurpac wrote: Of course the CGI isn't nearly as good as, let's say, Iron Man 2.
And not to completely turn this thread into me ruminating on Piranha, but that was kind of misleading of me. It may not be as flashy in the CGI department as the biggest budgeted films, bit I still thought it worked very well and it's filled with loads of non-CGI gore effects that are fantastic in how effectively convincing they are.

I see. Well thanks for the broad explanation. I don't have any interest in seeing it though, it's not really my kind of movie :)


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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-29 17:52:15 Reply

I just watched the director's cut of Alien. Sigourney Weaver gives an extremely strong performance as the hero of the film, Ripley. This movie proved that not only guys can kick ass in movies. The special effects are slightly outdated, but still really good for a thirty year old movie. The pacing ni this film was perfect. Even if you're not a fan of Sci-Fi or Horror, check out this movie.

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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-29 18:17:13 Reply

At 8/29/10 05:52 PM, Ptero wrote: I just watched the director's cut of Alien.

I hate to knit pick, but Jame Cameron's film is actually called Aliens. Alien was directed by Ridley Scott. It's always been a slight cause of confusion, as the two are similar entities.
Sigourney Weaver gives an extremely strong performance as the hero of the film, Ripley. This movie proved that not only guys can kick ass in movies. The special effects are slightly outdated, but still really good for a thirty year old movie. The pacing ni this film was perfect. Even if you're not a fan of Sci-Fi or Horror, check out this movie.
I quite liked the film, although I thought that it could have been a little shorter. Not really a major complaint, it just seemed to lengthen itself needlessly at points. Sigourney Weaver was stellar though, as was the gentleman who played the cyborg, but I forget his name.


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At 8/29/10 06:17 PM, WaterShake wrote: I hate to knit pick, but Jame Cameron's film is actually called Aliens. Alien was directed by Ridley Scott. It's always been a slight cause of confusion, as the two are similar entities.

Aliens is the sequel to Alien. I haven't watched Aliens yet. They are part of the same series and have the same main character. Check IMDb next time.

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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-29 20:03:37 Reply

Watch Taken and Domino.

Taken was pretty good, although it was a bit stale towards the end as the entire film was basically just Liam Neeson kicking the shit out of people. It never really felt like he was at a disadvantage, as is the norm in action films. It always just felt like a matter of time until he punched his way through enough henchmen to get to his daughter.

Neeson manages to elevate the film from bog standard action into something better, though. 8/10.

Domino is a weird one, since Keira Knightley is the last person I'd picture as a badass bounty hunter when she wasn't even a believable slightly angry pirate, but she pulls it off really well. It uses that Pulp Fiction thing of showing the story out of order, which isn't really handled very well and adds nothing at all, but the film drops this idea about 20 minutes in and is linear again until right near the end. It also does this weird thing where it shows an event that happens off screen as the characters believe it happens, and then later on shows how it ACTUALLY happens. Again, doesn't work very well.

Strong supporting cast, with Mickey Rourke and Christopher Walken DOES add a lot to the film, however, and the story itself is decent enough. Just wish it wasn't edited so weirdly.

Worth seeing if only for a scene where Keira Knightley dual wields assault rifles. 7/10.


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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-29 20:31:35 Reply

So I finally got around to watching 'Rashomon' today

I have to say it was intriguing and while some of the actors annoyed me the message gets across rather well.

My only issue was that the very last story told doesn't leave much speculation and I took it as the only true interpretation of the events. I'm not sure if this was intended.

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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-29 22:57:00 Reply

Has anyone seen Tetsuo: the iron man? I would recommend anyone who is a big fan of japanese horror..all i can say is its something you have never seen before.


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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-29 23:22:12 Reply

At 8/29/10 10:57 PM, therealanimator wrote: Has anyone seen Tetsuo: the iron man? I would recommend anyone who is a big fan of japanese horror..all i can say is its something you have never seen before.

I just looked it up on IMDb.

"A strange man known only as the "metal fetishist", who seems to have an insane compulsion to stick scrap metal into his body, is hit and possibly killed by a Japanese "salaryman", out for a drive with his girlfriend. The salaryman then notices that he is being slowly overtaken by some kind of disease that is turning his body into scrap metal, and that his nemesis is not in fact dead but is somehow masterminding and guiding his rage and frustration-fueled transformation."

Sounds weird. Netflixed.

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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-29 23:53:08 Reply

At 8/29/10 06:35 PM, Ptero wrote:
At 8/29/10 06:17 PM, WaterShake wrote: I hate to knit pick, but Jame Cameron's film is actually called Aliens. Alien was directed by Ridley Scott. It's always been a slight cause of confusion, as the two are similar entities.
Aliens is the sequel to Alien. I haven't watched Aliens yet. They are part of the same series and have the same main character. Check IMDb next time.

I'm pretty sure you have. Maybe try checking Wikipedia next time :O Nah I kid. It's no big deal either way, but the film yu described is definitely called Aliens

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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-30 00:12:18 Reply

At 8/29/10 11:53 PM, WaterShake wrote: I'm pretty sure you have. Maybe try checking Wikipedia next time :O Nah I kid. It's no big deal either way, but the film yu described is definitely called Aliens

No, no it's not.
IMDb page for Alien.
Now, let's dissect my post.

Sigourney Weaver gives an extremely strong performance as the hero of the film, Ripley.

This movie proved that not only guys can kick ass in movies.
Now, check the IMDb page. Sigourney Weaver plays the main character, no?
Also Known As: "Alien: The Director's Cut" - USA (director's cut)

The special effects are slightly outdated, but still really good for a thirty year old movie. The pacing ni this film was perfect. Even if you're not a fan of Sci-Fi or Horror, check out this movie.

Now check under "Genre". Horror and Sci-Fi? You don't say!
The disc I used said "Alien" on it.
And last but not least, a picture of my Netflix account.
So, how exactly am I talking about "Aliens"?

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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-30 00:13:37 Reply

At 8/30/10 12:12 AM, DactyI wrote: stuff

Sorry, I was still logged in as my alt. My point still stands though.

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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-30 00:41:12 Reply

At 8/30/10 12:13 AM, Ptero wrote:
At 8/30/10 12:12 AM, DactyI wrote: stuff
Sorry, I was still logged in as my alt. My point still stands though.

I'm sorry, but does the movie poster that I uploaded not say Aliens at the top? Does it not have Sigourney Weaver carrying the young girl? I.e two of the central characters from the film you described. The film is called Aliens.

Heres another iteration of the promo poster.

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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-30 00:45:13 Reply

At 8/30/10 12:41 AM, WaterShake wrote: I'm sorry, but does the movie poster that I uploaded not say Aliens at the top? Does it not have Sigourney Weaver carrying the young girl? I.e two of the central characters from the film you described. The film is called Aliens.

There's no little girl in the film I watched.

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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-30 00:51:01 Reply

At 8/30/10 12:45 AM, Ptero wrote:
At 8/30/10 12:41 AM, WaterShake wrote: I'm sorry, but does the movie poster that I uploaded not say Aliens at the top? Does it not have Sigourney Weaver carrying the young girl? I.e two of the central characters from the film you described. The film is called Aliens.
There's no little girl in the film I watched.

Ahhhh. I understand now. I just checked Sigourney Weaver's filmography. She was in both films. My mistake.


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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-30 06:58:51 Reply

Watershake, I've never met ANYONE who was unaware that Aliens was the sequel to Alien.

Did you think they called the sequel to Aliens itself "Alien 3" just for a laugh or something?


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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-30 08:39:47 Reply

At 8/30/10 06:58 AM, TheMaster wrote: Watershake, I've never met ANYONE who was unaware that Aliens was the sequel to Alien.

Did you think they called the sequel to Aliens itself "Alien 3" just for a laugh or something?

Well...err...

Basically, I always thoughts that Alien and Aliens, whilst belonging to the same "series" or "universe", were slightly different. Largely because the two films were so different, Alien being a much more suspense fuelled film than Aliens, which seemed much more "actiony".

I don't have much knowledge of the Alien films, they were usually slightly to disturbing for my taste. Facehuggers terrify me.


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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-30 08:57:02 Reply

Loved both alien + aliens (not seen the other two), the suspense and shiz of the first and the balls to the wall flamethrower action of the second, nice to see a noticeable change between the films and stuff


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At 8/30/10 08:57 AM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: Loved both alien + aliens (not seen the other two), the suspense and shiz of the first and the balls to the wall flamethrower action of the second, nice to see a noticeable change between the films and stuff

As a gentlemen who loves both Alien and Aliens, let me just say - please don't watch Alien 3. Honestly, it almost ruins Aliens.

At 8/29/10 08:31 PM, Gobblemeister wrote: So I finally got around to watching 'Rashomon' today

Good call, I've had the DVD for over a year and never watched it. I'll try and watch it this week methinks.

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So yeah, I watched Sonatine - a Takeshi Kitano film. Its considered to be his first masterpiece, although I disagree with that. Basically, some clan have a shoot-out with another rival clan and then main clan go off to a remote beech house to hide out for a while, during their stay we learn a little about them.

There are some great scenes between these characters, once they remove their sharp suits we learn they're actual people, rather then cold killers that they're made out to be in the first twenty minutes.

Problem is that the film barely has two acts, lucky its only hour and a half long. Also, more development for certain characters plz.

6/10

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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-30 23:19:45 Reply

At 8/30/10 12:12 AM, DactyI wrote: Also Known As: "Alien: The Director's Cut" - USA (director's cut)

Ridley Scott loves his extended/director's cuts. Robin Hood recently got one. Sometimes, when I see a film for the first time on DVD or Blu-ray, I don't know which version to watch, if there's an extra one, of course. I usually go with the theatrical cut, so I can see it as others first did in theatres.

At 8/30/10 07:41 PM, Jack wrote:
At 8/30/10 08:57 AM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: Loved both alien + aliens (not seen the other two), the suspense and shiz of the first and the balls to the wall flamethrower action of the second, nice to see a noticeable change between the films and stuff
As a gentlemen who loves both Alien and Aliens, let me just say - please don't watch Alien 3. Honestly, it almost ruins Aliens.

I also love the first two films. I'd like to see Alien 3, though, and this is a case where I might watch the so-called "assembly cut" first, which is about half an hour longer. David Fincher disowned the theatrical cut, so I think this other cut is how he intended the film to be.

As it so happens, the anthology is coming out on Blu-ray this October. We were discussing picture quality on Blu-rays a few pages ago. I have to wonder what's gonna happen with this set.

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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-30 23:37:09 Reply

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Response to Cinema Club 2010-08-31 00:36:45 Reply

At 8/30/10 11:37 PM, Makeshift wrote: My shirt is better than yours.

Haha, I need to get that one.
Also, I want this one.

On an unrelated note, how did you like Memento?