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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-12 17:30:47 Reply

It's beautiful. Sticking with the poster image that spoils the end of the film is a bold move, though.

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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-12 23:43:30 Reply

Finally caught up on these MotW films. I'll keep my thoughts short since I'm so far behind on these and the discussions on them are so far back.

Les quatre cents coups
Fantastic film. The relationship between Antoine and his parents was very believable, and felt so real by how well the actors portrayed it. The camerawork was incredible; with subtle bits like using Antoine's perspective to show his wandering focus as his mother is talking to him, to the very lengthy shots of him running down the road and to the beach at the end of the film. This movie was very well put together in pretty much every aspect, and I can definitely see why it's considered such a classic.

Dark City
I thought it was pretty good, overall. It had a gripping premise and touched on some interesting themes and ideas. The visuals were really nice if you can excuse the '90s CGI. The ending is where it sorta fell apart for me, though. The big battle was more humourous than it was exciting, and I felt that the closing scenes really lacked something and left me a bit unsatisfied. I definitely enjoyed it as a whole, though.

The Wall
Not a huge fan of this one. I can see why some people enjoy this film, but it doesn't really do anything for me at all. I felt like the film distracted from the music more than it added or enhanced it. Instead of the scenes seeming abstract and serving as 'food for thought', they just seemed to lack direction and purpose and took away from the experience for me. While at times it did provide some very nice looking visuals to look at, I would have much rather just listened to the album on its own again.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-13 19:37:47 Reply

I finally got around to La Planete Sauvage.

Didn't think that much of it. Animation is absolutely gorgeous and the world and creature design is very creative, but the narrative is surprisingly dry and really didn't work for me. Think you've got to go all out if you're going to try and make such bizarre aesthetics work. Just rapping them around a pretty straightforward parable didn't cut it.

Worth a look on the strength of the visuals alone, but a let down.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-14 22:41:15 Reply

I was against making a Letterboxd account previously due to the amount of films I would have to rewatch but I've decided to make one and the first film I've added is The Great Gatsby! Quite a joy watching that film.

Here's the link to my account. http://letterboxd.com/bastille/ Only one film right now but more to come!

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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-14 23:50:38 Reply

At 2/14/14 10:41 PM, Atlas wrote: I was against making a Letterboxd account previously due to the amount of films I would have to rewatch but I've decided to make one and the first film I've added is The Great Gatsby! Quite a joy watching that film.

Wait, you know you can add films without logging them, right? The site doesn't force you to rewatch something you've already seen before adding it, you can just click the eye icon or press "save" without checking off anything else to create a log of everything you've already seen in addition to the film diary stuff.

I've added plenty of films on there that I haven't seen in over a decade and don't plan on ever watching again.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-15 01:27:20 Reply

At 2/13/14 07:37 PM, TheMaster wrote: I finally got around to La Planete Sauvage.

so that's where sense-offender's icon comes from


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-15 06:45:34 Reply

So did I accidentally kill film club?

I rewatched The Stone Tape and it still holds up. Jane Asher flips between hysterical and coldly scientific and back again a bit quickly in the first act for me, but once everything is set in motion it all works.

Has the standard Kneale message of "leave well enough alone" but unlike a lot of his work, and almost all of the MR James stuff that inspired it, Brock is not just unlucky or innocently inquisitive. He's ruthless and cares only for himself, and all the misery caused can be placed squarely on him. His descent into madness is caused not be the supernatural, as in Jill's, but by his ambition and the hole he digs himself into with Ryan.

Jill herself isn't actually a particularly strong protagonist in my opinion. She's very reactive, dragged along by the others while doing little but beg them to stop. In that way she's very much the insert for the audience. Just like in "Baby" or "Quatermass and the Pit", the audience is screaming at the characters to stop what they're doing before something terrible happens, and Jane gives voice to that.

Actually, Baby highlights a few of the other nitpicks I have with The Stone Tape. In Baby there's plenty of talk of the supernatural and certainly some hints earlier in the short, but it never explicitly shows anything. In The Stone Tape the ghost walks right at the beginning, removing that ambiguity. It's understandable given that the story is not about whether something is happened, but how it is happening, but when it comes to raising tension there's nothing better than leaving it all to your imagination.

I still feel it's the best of Kneale's feature length stories, even if it's not quite up there with his best shorts or his real masterpiece, the television version of Quatermass and the Pit.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-15 08:19:53 Reply

Watched Repo Man last night. It was alright but there didn't seem to be enough there for me to think of it as being top 10 worthy. I'll have to give it a second viewing after some time has passed. I found myself not giving it my full attention towards the end which isn't usually a good sign. I suppose it was kind of interesting in the sense that it started out being somewhat normal (with the exception of the traffic cop scene) and then just progressively gets weirder.

That said I was probably kinda tired last night because I started watching The Thing and fell asleep about mid way through. Not because I wasn't enjoying it or anything, I was just tired. Doesn't seem like the kind of film I should be falling asleep to though. Was really enjoying what I saw of it. I'll watch it from the beginning again tonight.

At 2/15/14 06:45 AM, TheMaster wrote: So did I accidentally kill film club?

Can't remember if I've already made this post, but I became slightly less interested in participating when I realised that the idea was to recommend obscure/lesser known stuff. It totally makes sense to do that, I just missed that part when I initially said I'd participate. I thought Dark City was great and I know I also initially said I wanted to try new things, but most of these films that have been recommended just haven't appealed to me for whatever reason. And I don't even mean I started watching and then gave up, I didn't even start watching.

I'll likely still visit this thread because I have been watching movies more regularly than I usual do, but I probably wont be as involved with film club. That's not to say I'll never watch any of the recommendations but it's just not what I thought it was.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-15 09:06:29 Reply

At 2/15/14 06:45 AM, TheMaster wrote: So did I accidentally kill film club?
I rewatched The Stone Tape and it still holds up.

I didn't forget. I had intended since I saw the post to look online for a stream tonight. So far, Saturday has usually been when I've done it, I think.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-15 09:07:39 Reply

At 2/15/14 01:27 AM, Natick wrote:
At 2/13/14 07:37 PM, TheMaster wrote: I finally got around to La Planete Sauvage.
so that's where sense-offender's icon comes from

Also, yeah, I really like that movie.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-15 12:01:50 Reply

At 2/14/14 11:50 PM, Dr-Worm wrote: Wait, you know you can add films without logging them, right? The site doesn't force you to rewatch something you've already seen before adding it, you can just click the eye icon or press "save" without checking off anything else to create a log of everything you've already seen in addition to the film diary stuff.

I've added plenty of films on there that I haven't seen in over a decade and don't plan on ever watching again.

That simply adds them without leaving a review though, doesn't it? I don't want to add anything without a review being added with it.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-15 16:57:43 Reply

Just watched Night of the Lepus. It sucked. It had some bits that were so bad it was funny but overall was a waste of an hour and a half.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-15 17:08:00 Reply

At 2/15/14 04:57 PM, Atlas wrote: Just watched Night of the Lepus. It sucked. It had some bits that were so bad it was funny but overall was a waste of an hour and a half.

I've seen that. I remember it being pretty solid B-movie fare.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-15 17:13:46 Reply

At 2/15/14 06:45 AM, TheMaster wrote: So did I accidentally kill film club?

Hahaha, no not yet. I'll definitely be watching the film sometime today and I'll get involved tomorrow.

I'd imagine this is about as obscure as we'll ever get here though, so if there's decent participation this week that's a good sign for the future.

At 2/15/14 08:19 AM, Dean wrote: Can't remember if I've already made this post, but I became slightly less interested in participating when I realised that the idea was to recommend obscure/lesser known stuff.

I mean, that's not necessarily the idea (The 400 Blows and The Wall are hardly obscure movies). The point is to pick movies that most of us haven't already seen and that hopefully fall outside our usual comfort zones. So while yeah, that can tend to result in some more obscure picks (plus I'd imagine some people want to use their picks as an opportunity to promote and talk about movies they don't see getting enough attention elsewhere), there are also plenty of classic, widely well-regarded films that just haven't gotten onto our radar yet for whatever reason; maybe it's an older film, or it's in a foreign language, or it belongs to a genre we haven't explored much.

I think MotW could potentially give us an opportunity to nudge ourselves into exploring that kind of new territory where normally we wouldn't, that's all. Or even if it's nothing that dramatic, we'll at least end up seeing good shit we might not have otherwise.

but most of these films that have been recommended just haven't appealed to me for whatever reason. And I don't even mean I started watching and then gave up, I didn't even start watching.

Then how do you know whether or not they'd appeal to you?

Like I said, the whole point is to help nudge ourselves out of those sorts of preconceived notions. It's almost always worth it.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-15 19:14:51 Reply

At 2/15/14 05:08 PM, TheMaster wrote:
At 2/15/14 04:57 PM, Atlas wrote: Just watched Night of the Lepus. It sucked. It had some bits that were so bad it was funny but overall was a waste of an hour and a half.
I've seen that. I remember it being pretty solid B-movie fare.

I couldn't stand it most of the time because of super stiff acting and I was constantly hearing someone breathing heavily while watching it.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-15 21:24:05 Reply

well, what i like about the stone tape is that the characters actually take curiosity in the room rather than deny anything jill claims and just blinly tear the room apart as scientists get picked off one by one. i also like that their reactions vary towards the ghost but they only completely deny it's presence when they have reasonable doubt. refreshing to see a haunted house (or in this case, haunted room) story without all the cliches they're known for but it's weird to say that considering this came out in the 70's. sorry to say but there were only certain scenes that i could really get into and those were mostly the experiments. most of the time, i was pretty bored.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-16 05:13:27 Reply

I've been reading some of the really early Judge Dredd comic strips and it got me interested in watching the 2012 Dredd film. Hopefully I'll get it watched before next weekend. The 1995 film with Stallone seems to get universal hate but it's kind of a guilty pleasure for me. I used to watch it when I was younger and loved it. Of course, back then I had no idea who Judge Dredd actually was and it was my first exposure to the character, so I didn't think anything of it. Although it has been a few years since I last saw it so maybe my opinion will change if I were to watch it again.

At 2/15/14 05:13 PM, Dr-Worm wrote: there are also plenty of classic, widely well-regarded films that just haven't gotten onto our radar yet for whatever reason;

It's for these kinds of films that I was mostly interested in this idea. I feel like there are an absolute ton of "must see" films that, for one reason or another, I haven't watched.

Then how do you know whether or not they'd appeal to you?

Let me start by explaining something else; a problem that's likely only applicable to me. I don't download/stream films. It's not that I'm against people doing this or anything, I just don't do it myself. Since I choose to buy films, it makes me a bit pickier about which film I'm willing to spend money on. There are numerous reasons a film might not initially appeal to me, including some of the reasons you previously mentioned: "maybe it's an older film, or it's in a foreign language, or it belongs to a genre we haven't explored much." Maybe I watch the trailer for it and just don't get a good vibe.

I guess it's less about the film not appealing to me and more about me not really being prepared to take a gamble on it. Which, thinking about it, kind of defeats the purpose of me participating. Like I said though, I will still try to participate but I'm most likely not going to be someone who watches every film that's suggested.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-16 15:43:09 Reply

Forgot to watch The Stone Tape yesterday, I'll catch it tonight and talk about it tomorrow. Oops.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-16 16:36:19 Reply

I just watched Fantasia.

I guess this was really just a group of Disney animators showing off and experimenting with animation effects. I'll admit that it did result in some pretty pictures and I kind of enjoyed watching this, but I can imagine others might find it boring and unnecessary.

I haven't gotten to watching The Stone Tape yet. I'll see if I can find some time to watch it tomorrow.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-16 17:38:29 Reply

At 2/16/14 03:43 PM, Oolaph wrote: Forgot to watch The Stone Tape yesterday, I'll catch it tonight and talk about it tomorrow. Oops.

Yeah I'll probably have to do the same. If I don't watch it and make a post tonight I'll definitely do it tomorrow.

So since I doubt anyone else is going to swoop in within the next couple hours, and because he's the only person who participated this week and hasn't picked yet, I might as well call it early:

@Natick will be picking this week's film! Remember the guidelines and whatnot!

Which means next week there's some possibility that everyone who's participated will have already picked, and if that doesn't happen next week it'll happen soon enough so we might as well figure it out now. So if that happens which option do you guys think is better:

1. We start over through the same order and make it a permanent rotation, adding in new people as necessary.

or

2. We put everyone's names back into the randomizer and make a new order each time.

Or if you think of something better than either option speak up!

At 2/16/14 05:13 AM, Dean wrote: It's for these kinds of films that I was mostly interested in this idea. I feel like there are an absolute ton of "must see" films that, for one reason or another, I haven't watched.

I feel the same way, and I think that's what a lot of the MotW picks will end up being.


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At 2/16/14 05:38 PM, Dr-Worm wrote: 2. We put everyone's names back into the randomizer and make a new order each time.

This one. There's no guarantee everyone will participate every week so a fixed rota doesn't really work.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-16 19:02:57 Reply

Killer Joe (2011)

it's seen by most as the film that made all of matthew mcconaughey's naysayers take him seriously as an actor so i kind of thought in the midst of his well-deserved oscar nomination for dallas buyers club and lead role in hbo's new series true detective, it would be appropiate viewing. it's also the previous film that william friedkin directed and i've only seen the french connection out of all of his films.

the plot is an adaptation from tracy letts' first play, in which a young drug dealer is in massive debt to some loan sharks and has now had his life put on the line since he can't pay. he hatches a plan to have his cantankerous mother killed off so he can collect the $50,000 life insurance policy to pay off the loan sharks and hires a detective who moonlights as a hitman to do the dirty work. of course, things go down south in ways which i won't spoil from a trailer's pov if you haven't seen it (i haven't but it's been on my hard drive for weeks). if i am violating the rules by putting up something too recent or that you guys have already seen, let me know because i have many other films planned for this occasion.

there's also two different versions of it because it was released with the nc-17 rating in theaters and r rating on dvd but i don't know if there's key story points taken out in the latter. find whatever version you feel most comfortable with.

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At 2/16/14 06:16 PM, TheMaster wrote:
At 2/16/14 05:38 PM, Dr-Worm wrote: 2. We put everyone's names back into the randomizer and make a new order each time.
This one. There's no guarantee everyone will participate every week so a fixed rota doesn't really work.

i agree. if we want all the participants we can get, everyone who's joined in needs an equal chance to pick.

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At 2/16/14 07:02 PM, Natick wrote: Killer Joe (2011)

Been on my radar for a while. Always up for some McConaughey renaissance, and Friedkin is a director I've wanted to see more from.

Ordered the blu-ray, which I've not done for this before, so hope it comes in time.

Speaking of McConaughey, I watched the first 3 episode of True Detective, and it's superb. Best thing HBO has done since The Wire ended. Really hope it stays this strong throughout.


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At 2/16/14 07:02 PM, Natick wrote:
Killer Joe (2011)

I didn't catch any of the previous MoTW picks because I'm awful at doing this but this movie just catches my eye. I will finally watch a MoTW pick and it will be this one.


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I saw Killer Joe a while ago. Pretty messed up movie. I can't imagine what it was like on stage.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-17 16:50:31 Reply

So I did watch The Stone Tape.

I mostly like how they managed to make a genuinely creepy film with such a low budget. The effects looked cheap and simplistic, but 'you get the idea' and the script is solid enough to make it into a decent film.

I agree with natick that it was nice to see how the scientists got to work rather than that they get trapped in the house and freak out or something (like you would expect from conventional horror films). It reminds me a little bit of the characters in Alien.

Anyway, it's definitely something that "broadened my horizons" so to speak. I don't think this would've been something I'd normally be interested in so... thanks TheMaster.

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Sounds good :)

I don't mind at all that your pick is something very recent. In fact, I think it might be good to alternate between older and more modern films.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-17 18:59:58 Reply

I've decided to watch some of the films from the National Film Registry. I'm going to do one random pick from each year and unlike my 80's movie marathon I will actually do this. I'm starting tonight with Intolerance!


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At 2/16/14 07:02 PM, Natick wrote: Killer Joe (2011)

Interesting. I've heard some wildly divergent things about this movie so we'll see how it goes. Also oddly enough this might be my first NC-17 movie (though that doesn't really mean much considering I've seen plenty of things that were simply never rated by the MPAA).

if i am violating the rules by putting up something too recent

Nope, that's totally fine (though I do hope people start picking some much older stuff too) as long as you've made sure it's readily available somewhere, which is the only major potential problem I see with picking something really recent.

Speaking of which, just a heads up: for those of you who have HBO, Killer Joe is currently available for streaming on HBO Go.

At 2/17/14 06:59 PM, Atlas wrote: I've decided to watch some of the films from the National Film Registry. I'm going to do one random pick from each year and unlike my 80's movie marathon I will actually do this. I'm starting tonight with Intolerance!

That could be a pretty good resource to find stuff, though it only includes American films! My personal favorite resource is the They Shoot Pictures Don't They 1,000 Greatest Films list. Obviously no list can be perfect but I've found that this one has a pretty great variety of countries, eras and genres.


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At 2/17/14 10:04 PM, Dr-Worm wrote:
At 2/17/14 06:59 PM, Atlas wrote: I've decided to watch some of the films from the National Film Registry. I'm going to do one random pick from each year and unlike my 80's movie marathon I will actually do this. I'm starting tonight with Intolerance!
That could be a pretty good resource to find stuff, though it only includes American films! My personal favorite resource is the They Shoot Pictures Don't They 1,000 Greatest Films list. Obviously no list can be perfect but I've found that this one has a pretty great variety of countries, eras and genres.

That's a nice list. I will definitely keep that bookmarked! Also I finished Intolerance. It is a slight bore for the first hour but after that I got caught up in two of the stories real quick.


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Response to Cinema Club 2014-02-18 16:05:10 Reply

Godzilla vs. Hedorah, Godzilla vs. Gigan, and Ebirah: Horror of the Deep are getting new Blu ray releases this summer.

Awesome.

The dvds have been out of print for a long time, and are really pricey to get.