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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-10 21:11:13 Reply

Some movies I've watched recently.

Maniac Cop (awesome)
Maniac Cop 2 (more awesome)
Maniac Cop 3 (meh)
Demons 2 (pretty cool)
Cube (good)
Cube 2 (was with it til the ending. What even happened?)
Dog Soldiers (pretty good)
the Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (good movie)
Badass (meh, not like there was much to expect)


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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-12 15:14:14 Reply

Saw Gravity today, I really enjoyed it. Other than the core concept of it being in space it doesn't present anything particularly new and has a lot of cliches in it, but they're all done really well and the whole thing is beautiful enough that it's still one of my favorites of the year.

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There's one particular shot in it that I fucking adore: the one where Sandra Bullock is detaching the Russian shuttle from the parachute that's caught on the station. The design of the shot with Sandra and the shuttle in the foreground, the station gradually getting fucked up by debris in the background, and the Earth as the backdrop was artistically fantastic and anxiety-provoking. Considering watching the movie again for the sake of seeing that scene a second time.

One thing i'm curious about, though. There were several moments where it seemed like dialogue was missing and I couldn't tell if it was intentional or if the movie theater guys did something wrong. It was never anything important, but once or twice Sandra Bullock replied to George Clooney when he hadn't said anything, and when she was on the radio with the Chinese guy she asked if he had a baby with him and mentioned his singing before any audio of him singing to his baby had kicked in. Hoping one of you folks can clear up whether or not that was actually supposed to happen.

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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-12 16:25:41 Reply

At 10/12/13 03:14 PM, Jester wrote: One thing i'm curious about, though. There were several moments where it seemed like dialogue was missing and I couldn't tell if it was intentional or if the movie theater guys did something wrong. It was never anything important, but once or twice Sandra Bullock replied to George Clooney when he hadn't said anything, and when she was on the radio with the Chinese guy she asked if he had a baby with him and mentioned his singing before any audio of him singing to his baby had kicked in. Hoping one of you folks can clear up whether or not that was actually supposed to happen.

I can't recall that first scene you mentioned, but I thought she first tried to contact the Chinese ground station, then realised they weren't hearing her. Then she overheard the other conversation in which the Chinese guy was eventually singing to his baby and THEN she said "keep singing, keep singing" or whatever.

So yeah, there might have been something wrong with the sound in your cinema then. I could be wrong though.


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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-13 10:48:38 Reply

At 10/12/13 04:25 PM, Auz wrote:
At 10/12/13 03:14 PM, Jester wrote:
I can't recall that first scene you mentioned, but I thought she first tried to contact the Chinese ground station, then realised they weren't hearing her. Then she overheard the other conversation in which the Chinese guy was eventually singing to his baby and THEN she said "keep singing, keep singing" or whatever.

So yeah, there might have been something wrong with the sound in your cinema then. I could be wrong though.

I'm fairly certain there was a problem. When she was on the radio with the Chinese guy the sequence of events went: Sandra Bullock saying "Mayday" a bunch while Chinese guy speaks Chinese -> Chinese guy's dogs barking -> Sandra Bullock howling like a dog while the radio was silent -> Sandra Bullock asking the guy about his baby and telling him to keep singing while the radio was still silent -> the camera panning to the radio as the Chinese guy singing chimed in.

Was hardly a problem, but I thought it'd have been weird if they'd done that intentionally.

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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-14 04:36:39 Reply

I really liked Gravity for the most part. It's a fucking marvel of special effects, just visually gorgeous all around, and the 3-D actually adds instead of detracts for once. I can't even wrap my head around the logistics of how Cuaron pulled off, like, 75% of the shots in the movie, and most of the time I honestly couldn't tell what was CGI and what was real. And a certain moment at the very end of the film (I'm sure you know what I'm talking about) is just one of the most incredibly tactile experiences I've ever had watching a movie. The whole movie was such a visceral thrill that I was actually wobbling as I left the theater as if I'd just gotten back from space myself.

Which is why it's so fucking disappointing that Cuaron (or more likely, the studio) didn't have the confidence to just let the images speak for themselves. Everything the movie works so carefully to build totally evaporates every time Bullock and Clooney open their stupid mouths to spout stupid dialogue about stupid backstories nobody cares about. Which unfortunately happens almost non-fucking-stop for the whole movie. It's all so pointless and distracting, and the movie would have worked so much better as a simple survival story. Bullock puts in a fantastic physical performance, Clooney is basically playing himself like always but that does a great job of lulling the audience into a false sense of security; both performances are hampered by the terrible script.

Such a shame, and it turns Gravity into just a very good movie instead of the truly great one it so easily could have been. Even so, this is the first movie to come out in a very long time to actually make me optimistic about the future of big-budget special effects blockbusters, so there's that at least.


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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-14 05:38:53 Reply

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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-14 12:47:45 Reply

I went to see Prisoners.

It's one of the better ones I've seen this year I think. I agree with EclecticEnnui on all his points. I would like to add that I liked Jake Gyllenhaal a lot as well.

The only minor complaint I have is that the first hour felt long winded. [SPOILER] It was pretty obvious that Hugh Jackman was making a huge mistake, but for a long time it felt like the film was still trying to make the audience believe he had the right guy. [END SPOILER]

At 9/21/13 02:22 AM, EclecticEnnui wrote: There might be people who won't particularly like how it ends, but it worked for me.

I did hear some sighs when the credits started rolling, but I did not have any problems with the ending at all.


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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-15 15:24:37 Reply

At 10/14/13 05:38 AM, Nebula wrote: Here's my Letterboxd:http://letterboxd.com/autumnnebula/

Sweet, follow me back dude!

Also, I read your Spring Breakers review and I feel like we were watching two completely different movies. I'll try to leave a comment or something in the next couple days.


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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-15 22:06:07 Reply

I saw Gamer.

Ever felt like watching a movie is bad for your health? The cam is too shaky? They use flashing lights too often?
Well this is that film. I don't know why, but they decided to be obnoxious with the aforementioned camera and flashing lights. I don't suffer from seizures but i felt sick here often.

Another issue is the "satire". It's hypocritical and disgusting. Trying to wag its finger at you for playing any game. If i heard that a 12 year old and Jack Thompson (or some other prick like him) both made the movie. I wouldn't be shocked cause it felt that way.

I originally criticized Enter The Void for it's strobe lights but i take it back. I'd rather watch that than this ever again. At least ETV is fascinating. This is just in-your-face obnoxious and terrible. Not even Michael C. Hall saves this one.


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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-17 02:51:56 Reply

I've seen people bitching about how Gravity is only 90 minutes.

When the hell did everybody become so obsessed with movie length?

Do people think movies need to be longer to justify ticket prices?

Is it because every crappy summer movie these days is bloated and breaks the two hour mark, and it's spoiled people?

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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-17 06:33:15 Reply

Maybe they're complaining cause the movie was so good that they wished it was longer.


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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-17 12:17:23 Reply

from horror movie challenge thread

I watched Bio-Zombie, which was awesome and hilarious, bt the ending was way wrong for the tone the movie had established.

I also watched the new Evil Dead movie which was actually really good.

And I watched Jason Goes to Hell: the Final Friday. I had already seen the other 8 movies before it years ago. Those movies are loaded with unintentional comedy. This one was just as dumb, but was also just weird. And Freddy Krueger at the end? That was unexpected...

I re-watched Heartless. I forgot how much of a fucking bummer that movie is. Good movie, but what a downer.


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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-18 13:08:03 Reply

I saw two documentaries today, the new BFI restoration of The Epic of Everest, which was incredible, and The Lebanon Rocket Society, which was dire.


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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-18 17:50:16 Reply

At 10/15/13 10:06 PM, Nebula wrote: I saw Gamer.

That film was quite loud and obnoxious from what I remember. I didn't like it much either.

At 10/17/13 02:51 AM, Darthdenim wrote: I've seen people bitching about how Gravity is only 90 minutes.

When the hell did everybody become so obsessed with movie length?

Do people think movies need to be longer to justify ticket prices?

Is it because every crappy summer movie these days is bloated and breaks the two hour mark, and it's spoiled people?

I misread the info at my cinema, because when I went in I thought it was going to be 2.5 hours long. I didn't mind that it was only 90 minutes though. It didn't need to be any longer.


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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-18 19:54:24 Reply

The Carrie remake really doesn't need to exist. Oh well.


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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-18 22:36:28 Reply

At 10/18/13 07:54 PM, Makeshift wrote: The Carrie remake really doesn't need to exist. Oh well.

I've seen somebody bitching that Carrie is not going to be long enough too.

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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-23 15:18:53 Reply

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1981115/board/nest/221049466

God.

Now somebody is bitch about Thor 2's runtime.

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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-23 15:26:45 Reply

At 10/23/13 03:18 PM, Darthdenim wrote: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1981115/board/nest/221049466

God.

Now somebody is bitch about Thor 2's runtime.

It's a movie about a guy with a hammer knocking bad guys through buildings.

90 minutes would have been enough.

Can't stand these fucking 140 minute superhero films. It's preposterous. 120, at most. Even that's too long for most.


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At 10/23/13 03:18 PM, Darthdenim wrote: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1981115/board/nest/221049466

Jesus christ. I'm just fucking speechless.

I guess we've finally gotten to the point where blockbuster movies have been increasingly bloated and needlessly convoluted for long enough that now people actually complain when a movie threatens to not drag on interminably.

There was once a time not so long ago when Hollywood movies were all an economical, efficient 90-100 minutes or so, and not 2.5-hour monstrosities. You do not need 150 minutes to tell the story of dudes in tights punching each other. Fuck.

At 10/23/13 03:26 PM, TheMaster wrote: Can't stand these fucking 140 minute superhero films. It's preposterous. 120, at most. Even that's too long for most.

Exactly. I think the problem is caused by actual basic storytelling in Hollywood movies being largely replaced with "string together a bunch of action setpieces with some byzantine nonsense we cribbed from Chris Nolan." Lazy writers can artificially increase the spectacle of each sequel by just adding more of everything.

Thank god for Gravity, showing everyone else how it's really done.


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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-23 16:01:45 Reply

2001: A Space Odyssey is 142 minutes long.

Transformers 3 is 152 minutes long.

I guess Michael Bay just had more to say than Kubrick.


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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-24 00:02:00 Reply

What's with the hate of recent comic book movies? I thought the Avengers was awesome.


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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-24 13:34:24 Reply

At 10/24/13 12:02 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: What's with the hate of recent comic book movies? I thought the Avengers was awesome.

I thought Avengers was okay, and Iron Man was good but even then they're overrated. All of these superhero films waste half of their run time telling the fucking origin story everyone already knows and the rest is just more generic CG action. And yet most of them do extremely well critically and financially.


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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-24 17:12:20 Reply

I went to check out Short Term 12 today.

Good film overall. Well written, very well acted and I got to admit that I genuinely started to care for the characters as the film progressed.

I can imagine that perhaps the film doesn't quite strike the right notes for every viewer. If you're not the type for emotional drama films you'll probably walk out shrugging, but I think it's moving and well worth a watch.

For now, it's in my top 10 favourite 2013 films.

At 10/23/13 03:26 PM, TheMaster wrote: Can't stand these fucking 140 minute superhero films. It's preposterous. 120, at most. Even that's too long for most.

Yeah. Even for The Dark Knight, I feel that 152 minutes is a bit too long. ~120 minutes would've sufficed.

By the way, Once Upon a Time in America is still the #1 worst film when it comes to runtime for me. It seemed to me like it was really a conscious directors choice they made beforehand to make it 4 hours long. There's five minutes of just an elevator coming down and that sort of nonsense.


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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-24 17:20:28 Reply

At 10/24/13 05:12 PM, Auz wrote: By the way, Once Upon a Time in America is still the #1 worst film when it comes to runtime for me. It seemed to me like it was really a conscious directors choice they made beforehand to make it 4 hours long. There's five minutes of just an elevator coming down and that sort of nonsense.

I have to say, I've had that sitting on my shelf for a while now, and the run time does put me off. It shouldn't, because some of my favourite films of all time run over the 200 minute mark, but it's still a barrier. Something you have to set aside time for in advance, not something you can just grab when you want to stick something on.


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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-24 20:48:55 Reply

At 10/24/13 01:34 PM, Jackho wrote:
At 10/24/13 12:02 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: What's with the hate of recent comic book movies? I thought the Avengers was awesome.
I thought Avengers was okay, and Iron Man was good but even then they're overrated. All of these superhero films waste half of their run time telling the fucking origin story everyone already knows and the rest is just more generic CG action. And yet most of them do extremely well critically and financially.

I like the origin story, it's usually my favorite part of the movies, even if I already know it. The origin story was my favorite part of Man of Steel, Iron Man, Spider-Man, and The Amazing Spider-Man. I especially enjoy watching the Spider-Man origin stories. I usually start getting a bit bored of the movies once they've adjusted to being a superhero.

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At 10/24/13 08:48 PM, Jolly wrote: I like the origin story, it's usually my favorite part of the movies, even if I already know it.

Me too. Especially with Spider-Man and I'm not really sure why.


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At 10/24/13 08:48 PM, Jolly wrote: I like the origin story, it's usually my favorite part of the movies, even if I already know it.

They're usually the better half of the movie for sure, but when the best they can do is tell us a story we already know then what's the point? This massive superhero surge is getting old. Telling spider man twice in a decade was bullshit too.


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At 10/24/13 05:20 PM, TheMaster wrote: I have to say, I've had that sitting on my shelf for a while now, and the run time does put me off. It shouldn't, because some of my favourite films of all time run over the 200 minute mark, but it's still a barrier. Something you have to set aside time for in advance, not something you can just grab when you want to stick something on.

Do you ever marathon watch tv shows? It's weird how I can do that, but watching a long movie throws me off. Like I've spent about 6 hours today just watching Orange is the New Black... maybe it's because you can just stop at any episode you want, but you feel like you have to watch the full movie.


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At 10/25/13 04:25 PM, Makeshift wrote: Do you ever marathon watch tv shows? It's weird how I can do that, but watching a long movie throws me off. Like I've spent about 6 hours today just watching Orange is the New Black... maybe it's because you can just stop at any episode you want, but you feel like you have to watch the full movie.

Man, I used to, but I can't seem to do it any more. I've been wanting to marathon Romanzo Criminale for ages, but it's the same thing with the long films. If I'm not going to watch at least a good 4 hours of it, why bother?

I remember watching 16 hours of Deep Space Nine or Buffy and Angel in a day when I was in college (sixth form college, not university). Think the last time I did it was with Babylon 5, and that must be at least 3 years ago now.


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Response to Cinema Club 2013-10-26 09:49:08 Reply

Watched Changeling.

Overall pretty good film with a great acting performance by Angelina Jolie. This might, in fact, be the best performance in her career so far.

While this "true story" is definitely interesting and worth telling, I think the film does struggle to keep the viewers attention. It has an element of mystery to it that grasped my interest, but at about the 90 minutes mark this mystery is pretty much solved and then the film takes another 45 minutes to come to closure.
[SPOILER]And it still leaves the main question of where her son is open at the end. It doesn't even mention if he was ever found.[/SPOILER]

At 10/24/13 05:20 PM, TheMaster wrote:
At 10/24/13 05:12 PM, Auz wrote: By the way, Once Upon a Time in America is still the #1 worst film when it comes to runtime for me. It seemed to me like it was really a conscious directors choice they made beforehand to make it 4 hours long. There's five minutes of just an elevator coming down and that sort of nonsense.
I have to say, I've had that sitting on my shelf for a while now, and the run time does put me off. It shouldn't, because some of my favourite films of all time run over the 200 minute mark, but it's still a barrier. Something you have to set aside time for in advance, not something you can just grab when you want to stick something on.

I think there's a 139 minutes US cut somewhere which might be easier to watch, but if you already got the long version sitting on your shelf...

But yeah, I know that feeling. I was watching the The Human Condition (Ningen no Jôken) trilogy with my girlfriend, but it's been two years and we still haven't gotten to part 3. The 3 hours runtime of each of these films is really putting us off.

If it was anything like Star Wars or LOTR we might not have minded the runtime, but this is a pretty slow paced drama series which makes it feel extra long.


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