Looking for epic music

[swordman592]

I need some epic music, something along the lines of Four brave champions by David Orr, except since I plan to release my game on a companies site (not even for profit) he expects me to pay $200/minute. So if anyone know some epic music that would work good in a midevil RPG, plz post it here. Thx

[JebbaL]

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/3 6776

This might work. Not sure if its quite medieval though.

[DavidOrr]

At 5/21/08 09:54 PM, swordman592 wrote: I need some epic music, something along the lines of Four brave champions by David Orr, except since I plan to release my game on a companies site (not even for profit) he expects me to pay $200/minute. So if anyone know some epic music that would work good in a midevil RPG, plz post it here. Thx

I'll repeat here what I sent you in a PM to clear up any confusion:

"If you're doing work for a company and they're not paying you, you're getting taken advantage of. Unless you're just getting started with developing games and are simply looking for exposure, I STRONGLY suggest you start reading up on standard rates and fees flash artists typically charge or you're going to lose out on a lot of money you could have earned! Many of the upper-level flash developers can see well over $10,000 in budgeting from their sponsor (plus they generally get a hefty bonus on top of that). There are a lot of people out there looking to profit off of artists that don't know how much their work is worth, so be careful and don't let yourself get scammed!"

Everyone who has music on the audio portal should be aware of the budget that some of the flash artists have around here. It's great to get your music featured in a game simply for the exposure, but there have been many cases when the flash developers had such a hefty budget that they could have (and should have) paid the artist a licensing fee for the work, since it no longer is non-commercial when the developers profit off of the production.

In short, don't let yourself get taken advantage of, it's as simple as that!

[swordman592]

buddy, I'M not getting paid to do this, the company isn't making money off this, nobody is going to make money off this but you. Besides, I have 5 other songs, from 5 other artists, and all I needed from them was a "Yah you can use it" and away I went

[kaptainkewl]

I just finished a song recently. With that exact feel to it.
+BsK+ Or Die Trying!!

[DavidOrr]

At 5/22/08 07:40 AM, swordman592 wrote: buddy, I'M not getting paid to do this, the company isn't making money off this, nobody is going to make money off this but you. Besides, I have 5 other songs, from 5 other artists, and all I needed from them was a "Yah you can use it" and away I went

Alright, in your first post to me, you should have told me exactly what the situation was. I was given one sentence from you. Unless you expect people to read your mind, you need to be MUCH more specific in your messages or deal with people having no idea what you're talking about.

Second, music is my living- I'ts not just a hobby for me. Go ask someone who writes music simply for fun to write you a piece for a game and they'd probably be more than happy to do it just for the experience. I can't afford to do that, or else I'd have $0 to live on. As I've said many times, my music on Newgrounds is free to use for a non-profit development (it's in the license agreement). But once money gets introduced, that means I'm not working with a kid making a game for fun, or a hobbyist simply doing what he enjoys doing, but with another business man. I know you said you are not profiting off of this, but I had NO way in knowing that from your one sentence pm.

Most of the people on Newgrounds do this stuff for fun, and are either still in grade school, or have another job. But, there are some of us who write music or do games and animations professionally, and you need to realize that they need to make a living. They won't throw the rights to their projects away, because that's essentially throwing money out the window.

In the future, please don't muck up the forums with your angered responses to my replies, no one wants to read it. If you'd like to continue this conversation feel free to reply to my PM or send me a message on AIM/MSN, I'd be more than happy to do so!

[swordman592]

what angered responce? I asked for Epic music like your song, but not by you because your charging money. Wheres the anger in that?

[Twoism]

The ethics of buying music.

Explained.

On newgrounds.

Great...

[MaestroRage]

At 5/22/08 11:55 AM, swordman592 wrote: what angered responce? I asked for Epic music like your song, but not by you because your charging money. Wheres the anger in that?

he also said that you're welcome to use tracks found on his Newgrounds page, so why not use 4 Brave Champions? Ask him to use that. He's more then explained himself and your responses do seem aggravated and kind of pouty. I any case I do a good deal of epic music myself, check out my page see if you hear anything you like!

[swordman592]

he also said that you're welcome to use tracks found on his Newgrounds page, so why not use 4 Brave Champions? Ask him to use that. He's more then explained himself and your responses do seem aggravated and kind of pouty. I any case I do a good deal of epic music myself, check out my page see if you hear anything you like!

He was going to charge me money not matter what song of his I used, he thought that I was going to profit off the game, which I'm not

[Ambimetric]

At 5/22/08 04:29 PM, swordman592 wrote: He was going to charge me money not matter what song of his I used, he thought that I was going to profit off the game, which I'm not

And when you stated you was not going to profit from your game, he put forward the licensing terms of uploading music to NG. Which, is allowed to be used in your work, as long as it is non-commercial.

So basically, you CAN use his song. Go PM each other. Sort it out. Or stop posting? Something.

[MaestroRage]

At 5/22/08 09:05 AM, DavidOrr wrote: my music on Newgrounds is free to use for a non-profit development (it's in the license agreement). But once money gets introduced, that means I'm not working with a kid making a game for fun, or a hobbyist simply doing what he enjoys doing, but with another business man. I know you said you are not profiting off of this, but I had NO way in knowing that from your one sentence pm.

ergo, you are free to use the work he has submitted here for free if it is truly for a non profit project. And if I am not mistaken, musicians do not charge per minute for tracks they've already made. The 200 dollars per minute rate is for new commissioned projects. So if you wanted a 5 minute track, made specifically for your project, it would cost you one grand.

If it's songs already made, there is a usually a fee the musician may charge for a one time use (as in you use it in the project once, you do not get to use it for every project you make), unless you buy the rights to the song, which generally gets much more expensive. Correct me i'm wrong David.