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animal farm is a GREAT book.

At 5/20/08 08:17 AM, TigerDemon wrote:

At 5/20/08 06:36 AM, Al6200 wrote:

At 5/19/08 10:44 PM, butsbutsbutsbutsbuts wrote:

At 5/16/08 09:50 AM, RedCoin wrote:

But he's right - people in hunter gatherer societies were quite equal - I mean, it's not like there were toys, specialized labor, luxury products, or anything that went beyond the necessities - so it's difficult to imagine any way that they could be unequal.

Umm lets see the best hunters got the best meat and head of the line privliges? Oh and umm the best looking females tended to go to the best hunters. Those who are able to do more for thier people will ALWAYS be valued more then the average guy.

I'm not disputing that those differences existed. Some people got better females, some people got to eat first, some people got the tastiest meat/berries.

But all in all those differences in wealth are very small compared to the difference between a modern CEO and a petty laborer.

So just take the non existent economic cycle of a hunter gatherer tribe - expand it and you have communism.

Fuck the Class System
All it does is create people to become poor middle class or rich, if we went Anarchy or Communism everyone would be equal.
Also, America and the Capitalists say that we have Freedom, forcing me to buckle myself while driving is not really free, neither is the corrupt buisnessmen, or that when me and my friends protested for anarchy, the police forced us to stop, and so on.
The only way to EVER achieve true freedom, is too demolish all government, let the people live their lives without rulers, we dont need them.

At 5/20/08 06:36 AM, Al6200 wrote:

said that they were peaceful. He said that they were egalitarian. There's a huge difference.

But he's right - people in hunter gatherer societies were quite equal - I mean, it's not like there were toys, specialized labor, luxury products, or anything that went beyond the necessities - so it's difficult to imagine any way that they could be unequal.

In hunter gatherer societies there was known to be a minor hierarchy amongst the males, the most experienced, oldest, or strongest of the males would probably be the one to lead the hunters, because tactics would have been necessary to take down large game; and tactics require leadership.

Also, some hunter gatherer societies had social status based on age; although there were no real possessions, the eldest individual might be treated as more valuable than somone else.