Sonic the Hedgehog (VC)

[Gustavos]

So I've been able to go to the Wii Shop Channel for the past few days, and today I decided to get my third game. Sonic The Hedgehog for Sega Genesis. We got it because when I was three, we had a Sega Genesis and a Sonic game. My best guess is that it was the second or third, but instead we got the first. I didn't have any problem with that, so I got it.

Well, I guess you can say I'm about to reveiw this game. It just plain sucks. Makes for a good classic, but not worth playing. Once you lose all your lives (you start with three and that's it), you start from the beginning of the game. I thought that wouldn't be too much of a problem, but the game is way too hard. Some enemies you can kill by jumping on, others you can't and you'll die if you don't have any rings. When going fast, you have to have the quick reactions of a Japanese gamer to either jump or run past any enemies the second they come on screen. But I died more from falling than enemies. Because controlling sonic is too slippery. And when you get hit, you lose all your rings instead of just some, and getting some back is a real pain.

Not to mention, in the title screen it doesn't say press start even though that's what you do. If you don't know what to press, you'll only have a few seconds to figure it out until a little demo comes up. From annoyances, to problems, this game is a waste of Wii points. If only the game saved after each level, than these little problems wouldn't mean much to me. And I know back then not a lot of games saved, but this game is too hard to beat in one sitting, and not in a good way.

So, I'd like to say to everyone, don't get Sonic the Hedgehog for Virtual Console. It's not worth it. And also, has anybody gotten the second or third? I'd like to know if the game does save and is worth playing. The first one isn't the one I remember. I remember Sonic being a small blue guy and there was a two player. Perhaps those are good clues.

[MCSMstudios]

You think that's bad? You should try the GBA version. Worst $5 I ever spent.

[Gustavos]

At 5/13/08 12:28 AM, MCSMstudios wrote: You think that's bad? You should try the GBA version. Worst $5 I ever spent.

Hmm...what was it called? I remember having a Sonic game very much like Sonic the Hedgehog. Didn't it save?

[Chiklay4]

At 5/13/08 12:18 AM, Gustavos wrote: I remember Sonic being a small blue guy and there was a two player. Perhaps those are good clues.

Thats Sonic the Hedgehog 2 , I bought Sonic the hedgehog 3 since I already own Sonic 2 on XBLA along with Sonic 1

[Jesus-Owns-X]

Protip: Almost every sonic game since 1999 has sucked

[slimt2100]

At 5/13/08 12:18 AM, Gustavos wrote:

Game's not hard, don't jump on enemies with spikes, even alcoholics have the reflexes needed for the game, you lose all your rings when hit in all of the old sonic games (you never just lost "some"), and if you can't figure out that you're supposed to press start at the title screen, then I have lost all faith in this generation. And most games gave you three lives to start with and if you lose them you start all over again back at the beginning.

So, I'd like to say to everyone, don't get Sonic the Hedgehog for Virtual Console. It's not worth it.

Yeah, why buy any of them off there when you can get about seven of the games (including some crap ones like 3d blast) for about five bucks, just on a gamecube disk.

[Akradon]

Well, I guess you can say I'm about to reveiw this game. It just plain sucks. Makes for a good classic, but not worth playing. Once you lose all your lives (you start with three and that's it), you start from the beginning of the game. I thought that wouldn't be too much of a problem, but the game is way too hard. Some enemies you can kill by jumping on, others you can't and you'll die if you don't have any rings. When going fast, you have to have the quick reactions of a Japanese gamer to either jump or run past any enemies the second they come on screen. But I died more from falling than enemies. Because controlling sonic is too slippery. And when you get hit, you lose all your rings instead of just some, and getting some back is a real pain.

Not to mention, in the title screen it doesn't say press start even though that's what you do. If you don't know what to press, you'll only have a few seconds to figure it out until a little demo comes up. From annoyances, to problems, this game is a waste of Wii points. If only the game saved after each level, than these little problems wouldn't mean much to me. And I know back then not a lot of games saved, but this game is too hard to beat in one sitting, and not in a good way.

amazing aint it...if someone cant play the game, its automatically rubbish or the worst game ever haha. Sonic 1 was the hardest sonic for chaos emeralds, but thats about it. You can do sonic in roughly 30 - 40 mins if your quick enough, and Sonic 1 isnt that fast compared to the new sonics on GBA etc.

[The-Red-Jack]

At 5/13/08 12:18 AM, Gustavos wrote:
Once you lose all your lives (you start with three and that's it), you start from the beginning of the game.

You can get a continue on the special stage

So, I'd like to say to everyone, don't get Sonic the Hedgehog for Virtual Console.

Thats why I play it on a Sega Genesis

It's not worth it. And also, has anybody gotten the second or third?

I have played those

I remember Sonic being a small blue guy and there was a two player.

It could be Sonic 2 or Sonic 3

[AshfordPride]

RAGING.

LIKE.

YOU.

WOULDN'T.

BELIEVE.

[hsonicshadow]

somoene played sonic for ps3?
it's very cool

[KeithHybrid]

Maybe the OP should learn to play video games before going on a rant.

[McPaper]

Why do people buy decade old games on their new age consoles?

[KeithHybrid]

At 5/13/08 10:32 AM, McPaper wrote: Why do people buy decade old games on their new age consoles?

Because some of us like decade old games.
Besides, can you tell me of any way to play Sin and Punishment that won't cost me an arm and a leg?

[dajudge]

You think it's hard on VC? complain after playing it on a samsung mobile. It's really hard to run, stop to jump because you cant press 2 keys together for some reason, and avoid enemies/ obstacles because of said limitation.
I still can't beat the first level...

[Gustavos]

At 5/13/08 01:13 AM, slimt2100 wrote:

At 5/13/08 12:18 AM, Gustavos wrote:

Game's not hard, don't jump on enemies with spikes, even alcoholics have the reflexes needed for the game, you lose all your rings when hit in all of the old sonic games (you never just lost "some"), and if you can't figure out that you're supposed to press start at the title screen, then I have lost all faith in this generation. And most games gave you three lives to start with and if you lose them you start all over again back at the beginning.

ugh...the day people learn to read is the day we conduct colonies of human life on Mars. Now, in order of each thing indicated by a comma:

1. The game is hard, but would be incredibly simple if you could save and continue with three more lives like a good game would.
2. None of the enemies have spikes, one was in the shape of a frog and jumping on it kills you.
3. Not this game, as I said, controlling sonic is very slippery as apposed to controlling Mario on any of his old games.
4. Wrong, in all the Sonic games I've played except this one, you'll always have at least one left when you have two or more.
5. I did figure it out, I'm just new to the classic controller. usually you didn't have to press start, but you could press A or something else on most games. I was waiting for it to say press start.
6. Born three generations ago and raised two generations ago, so piss off.
7. Actually, there were an equal amount of games giving you three, four, or five lives. Although a lot of games took on the quality of saving the game on its own or manually. The game was released in 1991. the majority of games could save at the time. Now 95% of all today's games save manually or automatically.

Yes well, I'd like everyone to get to the question at hand. Do the second or third games save? Merely wondering at this point.

[MCSMstudios]

Dude, you just suck at it, admit it.

At 5/13/08 08:11 PM, Gustavos wrote: 1. The game is hard, but would be incredibly simple if you could save and continue with three more lives like a good game would.

Genesis 1991, I really doubt it.

2. None of the enemies have spikes, one was in the shape of a frog and jumping on it kills you.

Probably a glitch, they plague old sonic games, and many enemies have spikes.

3. Not this game, as I said, controlling sonic is very slippery as apposed to controlling Mario on any of his old games.

Maybe because it's not a Mario game? FFS

4. Wrong, in all the Sonic games I've played except this one, you'll always have at least one left when you have two or more.

ALL 2D SONIC GAMES TAKE AWAY ALL OF YOUR RINGS WHEN YOU'RE HIT!

5. I did figure it out, I'm just new to the classic controller. usually you didn't have to press start, but you could press A or something else on most games. I was waiting for it to say press start.

It's just old. On older NES games you had to press select to navigate the menus.

6. Born three generations ago and raised two generations ago, so piss off.

Newb.

7. Actually, there were an equal amount of games giving you three, four, or five lives. Although a lot of games took on the quality of saving the game on its own or manually. The game was released in 1991. the majority of games could save at the time. Now 95% of all today's games save manually or automatically.

3 lives is enough for anyone, they don't want you to beat the game on your first try maybe? The vast majority of console games in '91 couldn't save. Learn your shit.

Yes well, I'd like everyone to get to the question at hand. Do the second or third games save? Merely wondering at this point.

The third one saves. I didn't mean to be a dick, but don't mess with classic Sonic.

[Bstuk2]

At 5/13/08 08:11 PM, Gustavos wrote: Yes well, I'd like everyone to get to the question at hand. Do the second or third games save? Merely wondering at this point.

The 3rd game does have a save feature. Whenever you die, you have to start at the beginning of the level, instead of the whole game. I think the second one does have a save feature but I'm not too sure.

[aquaticmole]

I had more fun with sonic the hedgehog 2 it's much different then the first and way better.

[slimt2100]

At 5/13/08 08:11 PM, Gustavos wrote:

At 5/13/08 01:13 AM, slimt2100 wrote:

At 5/13/08 12:18 AM, Gustavos wrote:

I was commenting on your review of sonic one, as I read through it, those things just stood out the most for me. I know you said "Also, which one can you save in?", but since a majority of your post was complaining about Sonic 1, I commented on it.

1. The game is hard, but would be incredibly simple if you could save and continue with three more lives like a good game would.

Not hard, and I've never heard of a good "incredibly simple" game. sonic is an old "play for about an hour and have fun" game, and there is no need for a save system.

2. None of the enemies have spikes, one was in the shape of a frog and jumping on it kills you.

There are like five types of enemies that have spikes, such as the caterpillar things in the 2nd level. If you died from something else while in a jump, I have had that happen once.

3. Not this game, as I said, controlling sonic is very slippery as apposed to controlling Mario on any of his old games.

He's like that because he is fast. Also, this is like the slowest of all sonic games (especially others with fast-foot)

4. Wrong, in all the Sonic games I've played except this one, you'll always have at least one left when you have two or more.

You are simply walking back into them before they hit the ground in the others, so it seems like you keep one. you lose all of them in all the old games

5. I did figure it out, I'm just new to the classic controller. usually you didn't have to press start, but you could press A or something else on most games. I was waiting for it to say press start.

lol, that was more directed towards the fact that you just mentioned that, not so much that you couldn't figure it out. Honestly

6. Born three generations ago and raised two generations ago, so piss off.

Again, not actually directed towards you, just a general statement

7. Actually, there were an equal amount of games giving you three, four, or five lives. Although a lot of games took on the quality of saving the game on its own or manually. The game was released in 1991. the majority of games could save at the time. Now 95% of all today's games save manually or automatically.

Again, this game is short. Unbelievably short looking back at it now. They give you continues, allow you to get extra lives by collecting rings; for a 40 minute game, saving is not necessary. Games like mario three that had a bunch of maps and levels is the type of game that needs one. besides, there is a level select, which is basically no different than using passwords on the older games.

but yeah, sonic 3 saves (plus sonic and knuckles w/ 3), but that game is much longer/harder in terms of comparing it to sonic 1, not that they are all that hard anyway. they are just fun.

[SniperWolf1564]

At 5/13/08 08:11 PM, Gustavos wrote: 1. The game is hard, but would be incredibly simple if you could save and continue with three more lives like a good game would.

No. It's not. You gain lives every 100 rings and you get to access the special stage when holding 50 rings, where 50 rings (I think) in said special stage awards you with a continue.

2. None of the enemies have spikes, one was in the shape of a frog and jumping on it kills you.

Some enemies require you to roll into them (hold down while running.)

3. Not this game, as I said, controlling sonic is very slippery as apposed to controlling Mario on any of his old games.

Because Sonic is fast, while Mario is slow. Sonic cannot stop on a dime, due to him running fast.

5. I did figure it out, I'm just new to the classic controller. usually you didn't have to press start, but you could press A or something else on most games. I was waiting for it to say press start.

Blame Nintendo. They wrote the emulator.

7. Actually, there were an equal amount of games giving you three, four, or five lives. Although a lot of games took on the quality of saving the game on its own or manually. The game was released in 1991. the majority of games could save at the time. Now 95% of all today's games save manually or automatically.

Did you know that games with a built in battery back-up were generally more expensive to produce compared to cartridges without said battery? Also, I believe that Sonic 1 does have 3 lives (assuming that the game counts as 2-1-0-game over.)

Yes well, I'd like everyone to get to the question at hand. Do the second or third games save? Merely wondering at this point.

The second game does not. The Sonic 3 saves, while Sonic and Knuckles does not, but when combined to Sonic 3, you get Sonic 3 and Knuckles, which has save functionality.

[Dobio]

The game is swell on the XBL Arcade.

But here are some tips. For one, every 100 rings you get, you get a free life, that's one way. Also, if you manage to get 50 coins in Act 1 or 2 of any level, you can jump through the giant ring at the end of the level, and go to the Chaos Emerald world. Get enough coins in that world, and you get a DUN DUN DUN DUH DUH DUH DUN continue, which is good for three more lives.

I'm not really sure what your griping is, it's a great game. I think it has a lot more to do with you not having a clue how to play it....

[Chiklay4]

At 5/13/08 08:11 PM, Gustavos wrote: 1. The game is hard, but would be incredibly simple if you could save and continue with three more lives like a good game would.

Its a old and REALLY simple game.

2. None of the enemies have spikes, one was in the shape of a frog and jumping on it kills you.

Some do have spikes also just turn into a ball(run fast and press down).

3. Not this game, as I said, controlling sonic is very slippery as apposed to controlling Mario on any of his old games.

Use the D-pad(How hard is that?)

4. Wrong, in all the Sonic games I've played except this one, you'll always have at least one left when you have two or more.

NEVER in a 2D sonic game has that happen , In all 2D sonic games you can have 100s of coins and lose them all in one hit

5. I did figure it out, I'm just new to the classic controller. usually you didn't have to press start, but you could press A or something else on most games. I was waiting for it to say press start.

Nice to know

6. Born three generations ago and raised two generations ago, so piss off.

The old days.

Yes well, I'd like everyone to get to the question at hand. Do the second or third games save? Merely wondering at this point.

Third has saving but only when you beat a level as for second I don't remember.

[Gustavos]

Alrgiht, at least you guys answered my question.

Now, I understand your points, but here's the thing. I'd rather be playing a long, hard game that does save, rather than a game that requires at long time of playing, otherwise you'd have to start over. Because I can't play a game for 20 minutes without having to stop for around the same amount of time to go do something. Usually each time making me having to turn the game off. And when it saves, isn't that more convenient to come back to where you leave off?

And for my complaints, I guess I got too pissed about no saving, that made me observe more shitty things about the game. I bet if I played the game a little more (I played only about 20 minutes) I'd get the hang of the controls, which just seem awkward.

Anyway, Sonic 3 has a save function according to you guys right? Is the game fun, or at least hard?

I love hard games, but only hard games that save.

[MCSMstudios]

Dude, the Virtual Console has save states for NES SNES Turbo Grfx 16 and Genesis. It's better than traditional saving. All you have to do is exit to the Wii menu instead of turning the system off while playing.

[slimt2100]

Anyway, Sonic 3 has a save function according to you guys right? Is the game fun, or at least hard?

The game is definitley fun, especially with sonic and knuckles because then you get the "full game". As a stand alone game, it is fun, has good music, characters all have special abilities (tails flies or swims, sonic can use special techniques with the elemental shields and has a temporary invincibility move in the air that is good for like two bosses), some difficulty, but nothing too hard. The only thing I remember having trouble with the game was this one thing in Carnival Night Zone...

Anyway, I would just get it with the sonic & knuckles added levels. if they don't offer it for some reason, again, just buy the collection for the gamecube, I know you can on that (but I think it has to be unlocked somehow).

[ShadowWest]

Sonic The Hedgehog on the VC is brilliant. The only thing different is the controller you use.

[Gustavos]

Well, well. I tried Sonic again, and somehow I was doing better. I only got to the Marble Zone Act 3 with my three lives (I couldn't beat those special stages) and the game was actually good. Definitely something worth playing. I lost one life over this glitch that took me inside lava and I didn't die, so I had to wait for the timer to get to ten minutes to automatically die. And the other two from some miscalculated jumps. But it was good.

And according to the Slimt guy, the third game sounds worth playing. The title is just Sonic the Hedgehog 3 right?

[MasterBalls]

So you complain because your bad at the game and couldn't find the start button? Pretty much every game menu in history requires you to press the start button. And if you think the second and third are so much better, they're excactly the same.

[ChaosCriticisor]

At 5/14/08 02:30 PM, Gustavos wrote: Well, well. I tried Sonic again, and somehow I was doing better. I only got to the Marble Zone Act 3 with my three lives (I couldn't beat those special stages) and the game was actually good. Definitely something worth playing. I lost one life over this glitch that took me inside lava and I didn't die, so I had to wait for the timer to get to ten minutes to automatically die. And the other two from some miscalculated jumps. But it was good.

And according to the Slimt guy, the third game sounds worth playing. The title is just Sonic the Hedgehog 3 right?

Sonic 3 IS the best out of all of them, but for a truely epic experience, you should play Sonic 3& Knuckles. If you never heard of Sonic and Knuckles addon, look it up. Best retro Sonic game ever.

Problem is the Addon isnt on the Virtual Console, you can only unlock it on Sonic Mega collection for the gamecube, or get a genesis.

[ChaosCriticisor]

Sorry for the double post, but I should mention Sonic3&Knuckles is the hardest game out of them all.