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InsertFunnyUserName NEUTRAL LEVEL 21

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...Because they can get you up to three years in prison.

http://www.backlash-uk.org.uk/badlaw.htm l

"In the Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill 2007, the Home Office confirmed plans to criminalise the possession of what it describes as abhorrent pornography.

It plans to criminalise the possession of images depicting scenes of sexual violence carry a sentence of up to three years in prison.

This is regardless of how the images are created - they could be theatrical, professionally photoshopped, simulated by stunt people or simply shots taken out of context.

That will not matter: what they are criminalising is a depiction rather than an action.

This is also regardless of evidence about whether harm is caused by the existence of such images.

The only other test is that the police have bugged the internet and can claim that the owner possessed an image to get their rocks off at some point.

For instance stills from TV or Film or artwork would be criminal to own if the investigative team believe you had those extracts on file for sexual purposes.

Hence the main test of the law will not be any particular act that someone has committed (Indeed no-one would have to be harmed in the pictures) but whether or not the government, the police and the jury think your fantasies are aberrant.

A Thought Crime.

This is an issue of censorship as well as individual liberty. Individuals and activist organisations created backlash to oppose this."

There's more to the article that's a rather interesting point, but this is the main story.

My opinion on this is that it's complete and utter bullshit. They're not locking people up because they're afraid of someone getting hurt, but rather they just don't like people "getting off" to certain things.

It doesn't even have to be a professional photograph. Like the article said, it could be a picture from a movie or something along the likes.

Though, obviously, they're going to use this law to target certain groups. But still.

Opinions on this?

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Too bad.

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As gross as I find them, if they are fake[drawn, acted, etc] and still punishable, then this is an infringement of our rights IMO.

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Those screenshots are far too sexy for me to delete.

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If this gets passed, it can open the floodgates and result in the passing of more thought crimes.

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this is only in the UK right?

right?!
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At 5/6/08 05:34 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote: My opinion on this is that it's complete and utter bullshit. They're not locking people up because they're afraid of someone getting hurt, but rather they just don't like people "getting off" to certain things.

Agreed. I'm sick of this half-arsed fake 'freedom' we have in this country. The basic idea is that you're free to believe in and enjoy whatever you want, as long as the government agree with you. They're such a bunch of fucking mitten-biters. I'd rather they spent time locking up real criminals.

Yeah, people getting off over images of people being abused is kind of weird, but as long as the material is fake/acted/staged/whatever, what business is it of anybody else?


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Good thing i live in the US.


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At 5/6/08 05:42 PM, LOLZILLA wrote: I blame the Haggis Baron.

I blame McFooFa.

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At 5/6/08 05:39 PM, Extremewookie wrote: If this gets passed, it can open the floodgates and result in the passing of more thought crimes.

Exactly. You guys may think I just sit around and bitch about BDSM related things all day, but think. What if this new trend starts flowing over to other things?

It's rather easy to attack the BDSM community for obvious reasons, but once certain laws are established, people are free to attack other groups.

"Gay/lesbian porn sure does make some people creeped out. Lets do away with that."
"Porn with women in it sure does dehumanize them. No more of that."

And besides, it costs $28,000 to keep someone in prison for a year. Do you really want to have your taxes raised because someone likes pictures of violence?

At 5/6/08 05:40 PM, BigFuzzyKitten wrote: this is only in the UK right?

right?!

I think so.

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all people in britain viewing this thread now have three to life

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At 5/6/08 05:34 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote: Opinions on this?

Considering the fact that America has put lolicon in a legally ambiguous state, things like this don't surprise me. I can't say that I'm for banning images such as this, but I'm not in favor of them.
I don't feel jail is a reasonable solution for any deviant who masturbates to illegal sexual images. I'd be more in favor of intensive psychotherapy locating where the deviation first occurred and using techniques such as EMDR to help move the people past said deviation.
Of course the majority of people are complete idiots and would rather crucify anyone who partakes in such things.

The definitions of what is a sexual deviation are flimsy, as what was once unacceptable can become more acceptable in time, or vice versa.


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At 5/6/08 05:46 PM, BigFuzzyKitten wrote: all people in britain viewing this thread now have three to life

I've fapped to that before.

and SHIT!

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Thought crimes. Beautiful. Next thing you know we'll be getting arrested for sneezing at inappropriate times. Absolute insanity.


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At 5/6/08 05:50 PM, Jezuz wrote: Thought crimes. Beautiful. Next thing you know we'll be getting arrested for sneezing at inappropriate times. Absolute insanity.

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At 5/6/08 05:49 PM, BaronVonBadGuy wrote:
At 5/6/08 05:34 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote: Opinions on this?
Considering the fact that America has put lolicon in a legally ambiguous state, things like this don't surprise me. I can't say that I'm for banning images such as this, but I'm not in favor of them.
I don't feel jail is a reasonable solution for any deviant who masturbates to illegal sexual images. I'd be more in favor of intensive psychotherapy locating where the deviation first occurred and using techniques such as EMDR to help move the people past said deviation.
Of course the majority of people are complete idiots and would rather crucify anyone who partakes in such things.

The definitions of what is a sexual deviation are flimsy, as what was once unacceptable can become more acceptable in time, or vice versa.

You have a point, but then again you have to realize that almost every person on the planet has some sort of fantasy of deviance. It doesn't have to be BDSM or anything related to it.

We're not bad people and I don't think we need therapy. I mean, obviously, doing things without others' consent is bad, but really, you can't stop desires. You can only repress them.

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At 5/6/08 05:34 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote: It plans to criminalise the possession of images depicting scenes of sexual violence carry a sentence of up to three years in prison.

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At 5/6/08 05:34 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote: ...Because they can get you up to three years in prison.

Good thing i don't live in the UK :)

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At 5/6/08 05:54 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote: We're not bad people and I don't think we need therapy. I mean, obviously, doing things without others' consent is bad, but really, you can't stop desires. You can only repress them.

I was actually referring to people who get off to others being unwillingly tortured, raped or killed, be the images/videos real or fake. Not for two people willingly getting involved in S/M, video's or otherwise, but I should have clarified that.

Though due to the fact I used to like lolicon, I notice that people would be more willing to defend something like this than lolicon. As I'm sure if I made a thread about the legal status of lolicon, more people would be like "It should be made illegal, if you like it you're a sick fuck."
I even remember some person making a topic about liking lolicon, and the reaction from another member was that he basically felt the person should be tortured to death.


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At 5/6/08 06:04 PM, BaronVonBadGuy wrote: I was actually referring to people who get off to others being unwillingly tortured, raped or killed, be the images/videos real or fake. Not for two people willingly getting involved in S/M, video's or otherwise, but I should have clarified that.

Ah, well, yeah. Actual rape is just as frowned upon in the BDSM community as it is in vanilla society.

Though due to the fact I used to like lolicon, I notice that people would be more willing to defend something like this than lolicon. As I'm sure if I made a thread about the legal status of lolicon, more people would be like "It should be made illegal, if you like it you're a sick fuck."
I even remember some person making a topic about liking lolicon, and the reaction from another member was that he basically felt the person should be tortured to death.

This is just another example of how certain things are made to seem worse by society. PERSONALLY, I don't like the idea of children in sex. However, I don't believe that someone looking at drawings of children makes them a bad person. They were born with that fetish and there's nothing they can do about it.

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i live in canadia. with my polar bear as a guard dog and weed plantation in my igloo, i'm sure the authorities wouldn't bother raiding peoples houses to find nudie stills.

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This is why the world is fucked up. Police/Government worry about this stupid shit instead of finding murderers and such.

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That's Bull!!! Stupid government...

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At 5/6/08 06:14 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote:
This is just another example of how certain things are made to seem worse by society. PERSONALLY, I don't like the idea of children in sex. However, I don't believe that someone looking at drawings of children makes them a bad person. They were born with that fetish and there's nothing they can do about it.

well, i was born with the fetish to vivisect my lovers and to ejaculate all over their entrails as they whimper and inhale their dying breath.

AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.

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At 5/6/08 06:26 PM, pHuXxXB0xX wrote: well, i was born with the fetish to vivisect my lovers and to ejaculate all over their entrails as they whimper and inhale their dying breath.

AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.

It's not about what you get off to, but how you act on those desires.

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At 5/6/08 06:14 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote: They were born with that fetish and there's nothing they can do about it.

I'd disagree that people are always born with such a fetish. Some of them may have a predisposition to liking certain things sexually. Perhaps I had a predisposition I'm not sure, but I feel, for the most part, it was through various life circumstances that I developed such an attraction. However, it is due to my belief in God that I stifle such desires.


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