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At 5/7/08 01:51 AM, WadeFulp wrote: Actually, let me teach you a lesson. I just had SOOO much FUN resetting your EXP points to ZERO. Hahahaha, that was fun wasn't it? Everyone think that was fun? It's not hurting anyone is it? You're not hurt right? It's all in good fun!

Lol, ouch

But it does show exactly what you're saying is happening in the FP its the same thing as you taking his exp

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At 5/7/08 01:52 AM, lazydoctor wrote: Not a personal vendetta? Erasing a TOTW? Yes Wade... I'd like to believe you but this is in fact a personal grudge you have against the CC. This is a shame. I thought that after 9 years in this place you'd have a little bit of common sense but apparently when CC members are involved you just lose it, sad sad sad.

Wow. You sure have a distored view on this and are clueless about me.

FACT, I was always a supporter of the Clock Crew. I was friends with Orange Clock, Raspberry Clock, Knottsberry Clock, Pineapple Clock, you know, the guys that really created the Clock Crew. Strawberry Clock started things, but he was a moron, and submitted shit, it was the other guys that formed the crew. I stood up for the Clock Crew on multiple occasions, I made front page posts defending them and sticking up for them. The problem back then was some users posed as Clocks and gave the Clock Crew a bad name, and I stood up for the real Clock Crew that made good Flash at the time.

I have nothing against the Clock Crew. However, all of the sudden Clock Crew members start submitting Flash insulting me, insulting my wife, others include racist content, pornographic content, and CC members are using multiple accounts to leave mass reviews.

So this is MY fault? I didn't do anything to bring on this recent turn of events. These CC members decided to attack me, attack my wife, and violate our rules, and cheat and abuse our system.

So now it's all about me?! I am simply responding to an abuse of our system, as I have for all these years. The problem is, most people never see how many users I actually delete and deal with behind the scenes. It's only when I take action against someone popular, or part of a group, that more people take notice.

When SS members pulled shit like this they had accounts deleted, they even have Flash entries in response to the loss of some of their members.

Get your head out of your ass. I don't have a problem with anyone, it's your pals that have a problem with ME or a problem with Newgrounds.

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At 5/7/08 01:51 AM, WadeFulp wrote: Actually, let me teach you a lesson. I just had SOOO much FUN resetting your EXP points to ZERO.

It would be funnier if we knew how many exp points he had before you reset them, so that we could see how much was lost.

All I know is that his rank (which hasn't updated yet) was 5,711. At level 12 my rank is around 15,000...based on other people's ranks and levels he was somewhere between level 12 and level 19.

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At 5/7/08 02:01 AM, Fyndir wrote: All I know is that his rank (which hasn't updated yet) was 5,711. At level 12 my rank is around 15,000...based on other people's ranks and levels he was somewhere between level 12 and level 19.

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We were talking about it on Paltalk... and how the experience he lost should be donated to good causes... like FBIpolux missing 440 or some deposits and requiring Experience points.

Also, I'm still laughing about it. He's probably like "Pff I don't care 'bout my level" or... PMing Wade in anger.


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At 5/7/08 01:53 AM, PatriotClock wrote: so it is ok if we win the award if each person reviews only once? Or are we not allowed awards at all?

Well, one person leaving more than 1 review is totally unacceptable.

The other part of the question is more to do with ethics. Do you really think it is fair to everyone else is some group gangs up and 50 people, or however many, give an entry a score it probably doesn't deserve (all 10's) and takes the award away from a more deserving entry, but the artist doesn't have a group to support him?

I don't know how we can really handle this, but if these groups were ethical, they would leave a fair and honest review for ALL entries.

I'm not sure how we can really combat something like this. It's just sad that there are so many people that will give bogus scores in an effort to help out someone in their group and screw over people that aren't in their group.

In the future we may have to change the system around so groups that try to gang vote/review entries will be excluded from all awards.

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At 5/7/08 01:59 AM, WadeFulp wrote:
Get your head out of your ass. I don't have a problem with anyone, it's your pals that have a problem with ME or a problem with Newgrounds.

Except people that you should have a problem with wade.

Don't be so modest.

You hate them. You want them dead.

Dead in a ditch with no flash at their fingertips.

Where their bloodless, dry corpses will become nests for rats.

And I don't think they have a problem with you, they just know they can get a reaction from you (REALLY, from the person that DEALS with portal abuse, WHO WOULD THINK THAT?!), so they see it as you being personally angry, and they gain satisfaction, when you're really just doing your job/task.

The internet is so crazy. Crazy.

At 5/7/08 02:04 AM, WadeFulp wrote:
In the future we may have to change the system around so groups that try to gang vote/review entries will be excluded from all awards.

Simple, don't allow flash crews. Encourage collaboration with ALL artists. That's a bundle of snakes if I ever saw one tho.


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THIS IS FUCKIN BULLSHIT WADE! I broke no fucking rule but yet you still decide to delete my flash. I dont understand why you turned into such an asshole since you met your wife. i dont see any rule stating 'do not suppost friends flash submissions'. what if someone actually liked the flash wade? your dumb fucking ass took away the review system that graded each individual aspect of a flash and changed it into an overall score. so are you gonna judge that its a fake review? so now if i review any clock crew movie with a score above 0 I run the risk of getting banned?

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i'm confused wade, so they insulted your wife, but what if they made a personal attack on someone else is that aloud. You can't take a joke?


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Considering most of the reviews on the deleted Underdog and Review Crew Pick where 10's, it's kind of hard to say that they where all honests reviews. A lot look like simple one liners that don't aid the submitter of the flash. So yeah.


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I think it was a mistake to give ideas to random teens of starting a "crew" and submiting massive amount of crap to the portal (B is a real inspiration despite how ridiculous it can be), among other things..

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At 5/7/08 01:59 AM, WadeFulp wrote: Wow. You sure have a distored view on this and are clueless about me.

FACT, I was always a supporter of the Clock Crew. I was friends with Orange Clock, Raspberry Clock, Knottsberry Clock, Pineapple Clock, you know, the guys that really created the Clock Crew. Strawberry Clock started things, but he was a moron, and submitted shit, it was the other guys that formed the crew. I stood up for the Clock Crew on multiple occasions, I made front page posts defending them and sticking up for them. The problem back then was some users posed as Clocks and gave the Clock Crew a bad name, and I stood up for the real Clock Crew that made good Flash at the time.

I have nothing against the Clock Crew. However, all of the sudden Clock Crew members start submitting Flash insulting me, insulting my wife, others include racist content, pornographic content, and CC members are using multiple accounts to leave mass reviews.

So this is MY fault? I didn't do anything to bring on this recent turn of events. These CC members decided to attack me, attack my wife, and violate our rules, and cheat and abuse our system.

So now it's all about me?! I am simply responding to an abuse of our system, as I have for all these years. The problem is, most people never see how many users I actually delete and deal with behind the scenes. It's only when I take action against someone popular, or part of a group, that more people take notice.

When SS members pulled shit like this they had accounts deleted, they even have Flash entries in response to the loss of some of their members.

Get your head out of your ass. I don't have a problem with anyone, it's your pals that have a problem with ME or a problem with Newgrounds.

I know rasp and piney too and that doesn't make me special at all. When you started being a cunt (ask members of the community that don't suck up to you for being an "admin") even the elder clocks started disliking you. Also, the CC is not a few founding members, the CC is actually hundreds of users who submit movies, who actively contribute to the crew, so congrats, you met knotts... haha, there's hundreds of unique, incredible, artistic and brilliant clocks out there who have contributed. Get YOUR head out of your fucking ass and stop thinking you know everything about the CC and stop thinking you made an incredibly relevant change to the CC by "doing front page posts defending them".

Second thing: There's A LOT of content offending you, a lot of racist content, and porn? Jesus... Do you even look around the portal? I mean that's your job isn't it? Oh no wait... from now on it'll be the job of "wade's portal patrol" because the second main admin of the site is too much of a dumbass to do his job he'll have the fucking kids doing it!!! SPECIAL FUCKING SHIT! How do you even get paid for this? I mean If you actually looked after the portal I'd expect less BBS posts and more blams and saves haha... hell, why not even a golden whistle? Oh well... The ball is on your court , Wade. And every word you write is being reviewed not by me but by hundreds of users who KNOW how much of a nazi you are turning into.

Good luck and good night.

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At 5/7/08 02:08 AM, PepsiClock wrote: THIS IS FUCKIN BULLSHIT WADE! I broke no fucking rule but yet you still decide to delete my flash. I dont understand why you turned into such an asshole since you met your wife. i dont see any rule stating 'do not suppost friends flash submissions'. what if someone actually liked the flash wade? your dumb fucking ass took away the review system that graded each individual aspect of a flash and changed it into an overall score. so are you gonna judge that its a fake review? so now if i review any clock crew movie with a score above 0 I run the risk of getting banned?

I didn't take away the review system that graded each thing, that was an idea by others.

Your Flash entries broke our rules. I don't remember exactly which ones belonged to who. Was yours the one with all the photographs of black people with the N word above them, along with the pro white power speech, pro KKK stuff, etc?

Also I have made it known that I do not want people using my wife's image. Unless you get her to personally give you persmission to use her image, in writing, you run the risk of me taking action against you. Having her face on a naked fat person is not acceptable to her or myself. Also why would you start fucking with me out of the blue? I don't recall doing anything to you.

As far as the awards, some of your pals used multiple accounts to leave multiple reviews. While this may have not been encouraged by you and others, the users who did this were punished for their actions.

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At 5/7/08 01:54 AM, FBIpolux wrote:
At 5/7/08 01:51 AM, WadeFulp wrote: Actually, let me teach you a lesson. I just had SOOO much FUN resetting your EXP points to ZERO. Hahahaha, that was fun wasn't it? Everyone think that was fun? It's not hurting anyone is it? You're not hurt right? It's all in good fun!
rofl

Didn't see that one coming.

At 5/7/08 01:52 AM, lazydoctor wrote: Not a personal vendetta? Erasing a TOTW? Yes Wade... I'd like to believe you but this is in fact a personal grudge you have against the CC. This is a shame. I thought that after 9 years in this place you'd have a little bit of common sense but apparently when CC members are involved you just lose it, sad sad sad.

It's not necessarily the whole "personal grudge" he has against the CC. It goes way beyond that. Many crews have abused the system way too many times. Various users abused the power of voting, and mass voted + mass reviewed their submissions constantly causing these submissions to pass into the portal.

If it is suspected of mass-voting, or mass-reviewing, of course there will be account deletion or maybe even submission deletion if something wasn't necessarily suppose to be winning that award. I'm sure something was abused in the downrun.

And totally pinpointing a certain person (Wade + His Wife) isn't necessary at all. It's just unjust and just immature. To personally attack someone for no apparent reason, that's where it gets nasty. Just stop insulting people, and move on with your lives. Seriously. Grow the fuck up.

It seems as if the whole crew will be punished for this. People need to stop doing these things, and giving the real hard earned clock crew members a bad name and everything will be fine. It's not that hard to follow the rules, so just learn how to play a fair game, and you'll get a fair response and consequence.

At 5/7/08 02:05 AM, Wadezilla wrote: Because awards on Newgrounds are really that important.

Well, to some they are important. As you go on in the Flash Scene, getting noticed and awarded for your work, it gives you a feeling of acceptance and appreciation. It's like when you were a kid in elementary school, and you are taking a math test and you get an A on it. You just can't wait to go home and show your mom what you got so she can put it on the fridge. Well, in a weird metaphoric way, Newgrounds Front Page is that fridge of ours and it's also our...mother?... Oh god, this turned out horrible.

At 5/7/08 02:08 AM, PepsiClock wrote: i dont see any rule stating 'do not suppost friends flash submissions'.

And suddenly, a new rule is added....

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At 5/7/08 02:08 AM, PepsiClock wrote: THIS IS FUCKIN BULLSHIT WADE! I broke no fucking rule but yet you still decide to delete my flash. . what if someone actually liked the flash wade? \

Dude I thought your flash was really good, I'm confused with you, lol


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At 5/7/08 02:11 AM, foamymaster1479 wrote: i'm confused wade, so they insulted your wife, but what if they made a personal attack on someone else is that aloud. You can't take a joke?

He had an actual photograph of my wife's face on a big naked fat woman. I already warned about taking shots at my wife in the past.

My wife isn't part of NG, and she could legally go after people using her image without her permission.

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At 5/7/08 02:08 AM, PepsiClock wrote: THIS IS FUCKIN BULLSHIT WADE! I broke no fucking rule but yet you still decide to delete my flash. I dont understand why you turned into such an asshole since you met your wife. i dont see any rule stating 'do not suppost friends flash submissions'. what if someone actually liked the flash wade? your dumb fucking ass took away the review system that graded each individual aspect of a flash and changed it into an overall score. so are you gonna judge that its a fake review? so now if i review any clock crew movie with a score above 0 I run the risk of getting banned?

Because the same people left multiple reviews? Which lead to the deletion of the Flash? Tell your "fans" to only write one review on one account, next time. It's not about how many people left reviews or how good the reviews were, it's about how many people left multiple reviews on different accounts. You probably wouldn't have gotten review crew pick otherwise, don't you think? And IF you did... well too bad. It's not YOUR website, it's his.


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how does one steal an award??

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At 5/7/08 02:17 AM, friendly-bear wrote: how does one steal an award??

Magic.

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Whatever it's worth Wade, I think it's awesome. A user PM'd me a few months ago trying to do this, and there was nothing I could do about it. I'm glad there's a little more smackdown on this.


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At 5/7/08 02:16 AM, WadeFulp wrote:
At 5/7/08 02:11 AM, foamymaster1479 wrote: i'm confused wade, so they insulted your wife, but what if they made a personal attack on someone else is that aloud. You can't take a joke?
He had an actual photograph of my wife's face on a big naked fat woman. I already warned about taking shots at my wife in the past.

My wife isn't part of NG, and she could legally go after people using her image without her permission.

Idk i see where you are coming from, but i guess i'm not aware of how bad the issue is.


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At 5/7/08 02:20 AM, foamymaster1479 wrote: Idk i see where you are coming from, but i guess i'm not aware of how bad the issue is.

You're 18, I wouldn't expect you to totally understand. When you're married and have children with your wife, see how you would feel then if you saw people doing horrible things with her photographs, saying horrible things about her, etc. It's fine to take shots at me, but my family is off limits.

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At 5/7/08 02:21 AM, GoldenClock wrote: Hey Wade, just out of curiosity, and I doubt you'll even respond to this though, what's the last Clock Crew movie you saw and thoroughly enjoyed?

I'm not sure, probably something from the last Clock Crew day.

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At 5/7/08 02:24 AM, WadeFulp wrote:
At 5/7/08 02:20 AM, foamymaster1479 wrote: Idk i see where you are coming from, but i guess i'm not aware of how bad the issue is.
You're 18, I wouldn't expect you to totally understand. When you're married and have children with your wife, see how you would feel then if you saw people doing horrible things with her photographs, saying horrible things about her, etc. It's fine to take shots at me, but my family is off limits.

I don't see why it's hard to understand.

It's your site.

You could make only stamperesque flashes acceptable if you REAALLY wanted to.

People are retards.

Next time you should just legally go after them. That's so much hassle for you though really.

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At 5/5/08 09:50 PM, WadeFulp wrote: This is your final notice.

It's time for Wade: Internet Badass 2 :)

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At 5/7/08 02:26 AM, Rudy wrote:
At 5/5/08 09:50 PM, WadeFulp wrote: This is your final notice.
It's time for Wade: Internet Badass 2 :)

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At 5/7/08 02:24 AM, WadeFulp wrote:
You're 18, I wouldn't expect you to totally understand. When you're married and have children with your wife, see how you would feel then if you saw people doing horrible things with her photographs, saying horrible things about her, etc. It's fine to take shots at me, but my family is off limits.

I'd be pissed if someone even used my dog in a flash doing inappropriate shit, none the less a human loved one.

Honestly, I can't stand threads like these, it's just internet drama that doesn't need to happen one way or another.

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At 5/7/08 02:26 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: Next time you should just legally go after them. That's so much hassle for you though really.

You'd think they'd rather have me delete their Flash than come at them with a lawsuit... They don't realize how easy we are on them.

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I have left the clock crew several months ago but RomanCollarClock's movies were always my favorites and were on my favorites. To me they have always been very funny and he has contributed a lot to this site. A few of his movies were also in collections.

I reviewed his new movie in the same theme it was presented, as a joke so it should not be treated and it was not meant to be taken seriously. He didn't even know Clock crew was watching his movie. Neither did I because I don't go there anymore.

How do you know what's "Highly racist"? It's a matter of opinion. I've seen worse more offensive movies get the front page. Movies depicting the graphic rape of someones dead grandmother just a few months ago, in fact.

I understand that if you needed to punish people that break your rules and if you want to turn this site into politically correct grounds to cater to your fan bases lack of brains and declining sense of humor that's your prerogative but taking his account out was OVERBOARD. I wouldn't even of posted if you had not done something that extreme.


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At 5/7/08 02:15 AM, WadeFulp wrote:
At 5/7/08 02:08 AM, PepsiClock wrote: THIS IS FUCKIN BULLSHIT WADE! I broke no fucking rule but yet you still decide to delete my flash. I dont understand why you turned into such an asshole since you met your wife. i dont see any rule stating 'do not suppost friends flash submissions'. what if someone actually liked the flash wade? your dumb fucking ass took away the review system that graded each individual aspect of a flash and changed it into an overall score. so are you gonna judge that its a fake review? so now if i review any clock crew movie with a score above 0 I run the risk of getting banned?
I didn't take away the review system that graded each thing, that was an idea by others.

Your Flash entries broke our rules. I don't remember exactly which ones belonged to who. Was yours the one with all the photographs of black people with the N word above them, along with the pro white power speech, pro KKK stuff, etc?

Also I have made it known that I do not want people using my wife's image. Unless you get her to personally give you persmission to use her image, in writing, you run the risk of me taking action against you. Having her face on a naked fat person is not acceptable to her or myself. Also why would you start fucking with me out of the blue? I don't recall doing anything to you.

As far as the awards, some of your pals used multiple accounts to leave multiple reviews. While this may have not been encouraged by you and others, the users who did this were punished for their actions.

the only thing offensive in my pico day flash was your ugly ass face. you delete peoples movies without even fuckin knowing what week your talkin about cuz i submitted that movie with your wife last week and i still have the SWF for the flash this week, there is nothing in there can offend you. you try to always come up with a reason for keeping true portal artists down when now you got so many fuckin lies to remember you cant keep em straight. just admit it, you didnt even watch the flash but just decided to delete it cuz im in the clock crew. your pushing your fucking luck wade. you let spam groups submit whatever they want all the time, the cc isnt a spam group we make sophisticated flash which someone of your intelligence just cant understand. one day you and tom will both be broke sucking cock for rent money wondering where you went wrong with the site, just remember to think back to this day wade and look at the disappointing looks on your kids faces when they grow up to learn how much of a facist asshole you really are.

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