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At 5/7/08 01:02 AM, WadeFulp wrote: The entry was highly racist

Sorry sir, isn't Newgrounds about free speech, saying it is racist here does not matter, what matters is that it was cheated to have review crew pick


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i'm drunk and i feel i didn't properly represent myself, although.. correct me if i'm wrong, was there anything racist in that movie asides the stuff attacking the seacows?


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At 5/7/08 01:05 AM, Sefam wrote: Sorry sir, isn't Newgrounds about free speech, saying it is racist here does not matter, what matters is that it was cheated to have review crew pick

Read the Portal submission rules, there is no such thing as free speech on a privately owned web site. We try to censor as little as we can get away with, but we do have limits.

Also some of the Clocks are saying I only warned about stealing awards with this topic. Not true, they need to read this topic:

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/8486 75

I clearly stated what would happen to users found cheating the system. Users were found doing exactly what I warned against and they were punished exactly as I said they would be.

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What if I want to make a flash that has racist characters in it?


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wade will you explain why the kitty krew and the star syndicate did whatever they wanted forever and we all enjoyed a movie enough to get it review crewed and you slam down the banhammer, can anyone say personal vendetta?


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At 5/7/08 01:29 AM, Ro-bot wrote: What if I want to make a flash that has racist characters in it?

You just have to work with this rule in mind:

"Your movie must not be racist or downright hateful towards specific groups of people."

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At 5/7/08 01:32 AM, WadeFulp wrote:
At 5/7/08 01:29 AM, Ro-bot wrote: What if I want to make a flash that has racist characters in it?
You just have to work with this rule in mind:

"Your movie must not be racist or downright hateful towards specific groups of people."

That's a fine line Mr. Fulp. What if I want to explore environments or cultures that are inherently racist?

I guess, being that I would make it artistic and not just "LOL N*GGERS", I guess it would not be confused with the racist tripe you are now doubt talking about.

So the line isn't that fine? If I present the character in obvious theatrical fashion?


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At 5/7/08 01:31 AM, peyoteclock wrote: wade will you explain why the kitty krew and the star syndicate did whatever they wanted forever and we all enjoyed a movie enough to get it review crewed and you slam down the banhammer, can anyone say personal vendetta?

I have terminated the accounts of many others who did exactly what some Clocks did with the recent award thefts. SS members had accounts deleted, KK members had accounts deleted, etc.

Sorry some of your CC buddies were so stupid as to leave more than 1 review per unique person.

If you can't understand that taking an award away from another Flash artist that deserved it is wrong I don't know what to tell you. You obviously don't care about Newgrounds.com, so why should we give a shit about the people who don't care about the site and only want to hurt it?

Now we have no review crew pick, no under dog, and no turd of the week, because all of the entries that won weren't suitable to stay in the spot light based on one rule violation or another. Good work guys.

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At 5/7/08 01:36 AM, WadeFulp wrote:
Now we have no review crew pick, no under dog, and no turd of the week, because all of the entries that won weren't suitable to stay in the spot light based on one rule violation or another. Good work guys.

Can't you just give it to the next flash in line?

Or downright just choose a flash yourself.

I get the impression that you should have more portal mods?

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Hah, my award was stolen Sunday when Ninja Quest was submitted. It turned out, it was a stolen game, and nabbed my daily 5th, as well as pushed back others submissions down an award spot. :(

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At 5/7/08 01:40 AM, Rudy wrote: Hah, my award was stolen Sunday when Ninja Quest was submitted. It turned out, it was a stolen game, and nabbed my daily 5th, as well as pushed back others submissions down an award spot. :(

Hahah I can see now why wade made that portal brigade topic thing.

Well anyways I know full and well that any flash I do on that particular area wouldn't be seen as racist. Because I know you know the difference between portraying racism and being racist.

Keep up the good work.


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At 5/7/08 01:37 AM, JackPhantasm wrote:
Can't you just give it to the next flash in line?

I think our pre-redesign Newgrounds used to do that, but it doesn't do that anymore. This is something that needs fixing at some point, but our staff has bigger issues on their plate. So anyone who f's with the awards will receive harsh punishment if I catch them cheating.

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urghh can't you just let them have their fun? It's not like its hurting anything, its usually better than the rest of the shit on ng, at least funnier.


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At 5/7/08 01:42 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: Hahah I can see now why wade made that portal brigade topic thing.

It's honestly not quite that fair. I think alot of animators have been cheated of worthy awards needed. And something has to be done about it. :/ About a year ago, A pal of mine submitted an animation in which was in the daily top 10, in the six spot -- And sooner or later, the top five -- one of the submissions was deleted due to copyright issues and his was pushed up a notch and claimed the award.

It's a shame though, that it's not possible to do this at the moment.

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At 5/7/08 01:42 AM, Reed wrote: urghh can't you just let them have their fun? It's not like its hurting anything, its usually better than the rest of the shit on ng, at least funnier.

It's hurting the system. Which is a shame, really. :|

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At 5/7/08 01:42 AM, WadeFulp wrote: but our staff has bigger issues on their plate.

So all the programmers are working on something big? Wow i can't wait to see this, it should be good if it takes everyone :)

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At 5/7/08 01:44 AM, MrLuckDuck wrote: It's hurting the system. Which is a shame, really. :|

I agree, it's not "fun" if it's stealing people's hard earned work awards...

nabbing someone else's prize, isn't quite that fun if you ask me

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At 5/7/08 01:42 AM, WadeFulp wrote: I think our pre-redesign Newgrounds used to do that

Nope.

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At 5/7/08 01:44 AM, MrLuckDuck wrote:
At 5/7/08 01:42 AM, Reed wrote: urghh can't you just let them have their fun? It's not like its hurting anything, its usually better than the rest of the shit on ng, at least funnier.
It's hurting the system. Which is a shame, really. :|

and also I'd like to point out that while I have seen barely any of these "crew" flashes, from what I have seen, all have been beyond shitty.


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At 5/7/08 01:42 AM, Reed wrote: urghh can't you just let them have their fun? It's not like its hurting anything, its usually better than the rest of the shit on ng, at least funnier.

You are a fucking moron. You should really get yourself some help, or some common sense.

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At 5/7/08 01:42 AM, Reed wrote: urghh can't you just let them have their fun? It's not like its hurting anything, its usually better than the rest of the shit on ng, at least funnier.

Actually, let me teach you a lesson. I just had SOOO much FUN resetting your EXP points to ZERO. Hahahaha, that was fun wasn't it? Everyone think that was fun? It's not hurting anyone is it? You're not hurt right? It's all in good fun!

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At 5/7/08 01:46 AM, JackPhantasm wrote:
and also I'd like to point out that while I have seen barely any of these "crew" flashes, from what I have seen, all have been beyond shitty.

Agreed. I've seen very few "good" crew flashes... If any.

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At 5/7/08 01:36 AM, WadeFulp wrote: Now we have no review crew pick, no under dog, and no turd of the week, because all of the entries that won weren't suitable to stay in the spot light based on one rule violation or another. Good work guys.

Haha wow. I remember when Review Crew pick was a formidable award to receive... now it looks like a bunch of idiots are always going to try and steal it every week. Looks like we're going to have to keep our eyes on every single submissions and their reviews... or you could just delete all of the accounts related to that kind of stuff before it happens again :)

I also remember when Turd of the Weeks were some rare horrible flash submissions that would, who knows how, manage to get saved and would then get downvoted by all the people saying "How the hell did this get saved?"

Nowadays all the Turd of the Weeks are just people aiming for it avidly... when it's supposed to be a shameful award. Well have fun with your turds... or your account deletions :P


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I'm sorry I only submitted an animation to the portal, several clocks helped me because im a total n00b at flash and now one of them is gone from NG and the submission is lost... I didn't vote with an alt, I didn't reviewed with an alt and as far as my knowledge goes none of my fellow clocks did that either, and if they in fact did reviewed with an alt they can have their review deleted, not necessary to delete the submission.

Not a personal vendetta? Erasing a TOTW? Yes Wade... I'd like to believe you but this is in fact a personal grudge you have against the CC. This is a shame. I thought that after 9 years in this place you'd have a little bit of common sense but apparently when CC members are involved you just lose it, sad sad sad.

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Let alone the SS, KK, and CC -- There is a problem with thieves around here as well. It's good to know that their accounts will be terminated, but it really fucking sucks that the system can not fix itself after the abuse has been done.

That's where Newgrounds need a justified code to overhaul the awards up the list, or something. But I'm sure it's not as easy as it sounds, let alone are the workers and programmers busy with other stuff.

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At 5/7/08 01:51 AM, WadeFulp wrote:
Actually, let me teach you a lesson. I just had SOOO much FUN resetting your EXP points to ZERO. Hahahaha, that was fun wasn't it? Everyone think that was fun? It's not hurting anyone is it? You're not hurt right? It's all in good fun!

You should do stuff like this more often :)

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At 5/7/08 01:36 AM, WadeFulp wrote: Sorry some of your CC buddies were so stupid as to leave more than 1 review per unique person.

so it is ok if we win the award if each person reviews only once? Or are we not allowed awards at all?

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I tried to tell them not to use alt's )':

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At 5/7/08 01:51 AM, WadeFulp wrote: Actually, let me teach you a lesson. I just had SOOO much FUN resetting your EXP points to ZERO. Hahahaha, that was fun wasn't it? Everyone think that was fun? It's not hurting anyone is it? You're not hurt right? It's all in good fun!

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