Make your own Ragime!

[SmilezRoyale]

This thread is either going to be fascinating, or a total disaster. Read to the very bottom before doing anything.

This thread is not going to be a debate thread, meaning that you are at absolutely no liberty to argue or counter-argue any sort of point that is made in this thread; and i discourage any form of criticism or argument at all. [At least not until the 3rd or 4th page of this thread]

The reason for no debating until later is so that you have the opportunity for you to see people's opinions on every issue in 1 particular area without them bending to your will, or changing their words after you have said that one of their ideas is stupid or doesn't make sense or would never work. Essentially, persecuting people makes them put on a mask, letting people be open allows you, the debater, to see what they think in raw. If you do start to argue with other people about their ideas; i will yell at you.

Discuss the way you envision an ideal set of policies laid down for the united states to follow. [If you had to skip the subtleties required to get to that policy]. You can do this even if you don't live in the united states, but it still must be about the united states. [Sorry, but there is a point to this] The policies you describe will be based solely on your own opinion, not that of a political leader or a

Another rule, No negatives. I'm not talking about having a policy that is bleak and depressing, by all means, go ahead and make your policy bleak and depressing. But do not say 'i would not' or 'i would never' NOT doing something is very easy; what is hard is taking action. You cannot say 'i would never invade other countries' Because not only is that ambiguous, but it's EASY. [Actually, in reality it's hard, so it was a bad example] Saying 'i would persue a non-interventionist / non agressionist policy' is fine.

The more specific you become, the better you are. If your plan sucks but it's more specific, it's better than a great plan that is short and to the point. This also has a point.

Your policies CAN be passive, but try as hard as you can to ensure that they are things which are achievable and can be described. [Aka, Tangible policies]

My side notes for the formate are not particular questions to be answered, they are just suggestions if you can't think of what to discuss in a topic. if you have no opinion on a topic [or can't think of anything, you can just write 'present' on the format.

If you do not feel an issue is controversial, do not discuss it. [For example, Womens suffrage in this country is not a debated issue]

You CAN include a 'Why' i am doing this to your policy, but it is less important than how you say it gets done.

Create a format like this... Also, do your work on microsoft word or whatever writing program you have, so that you do not have to continually add to your work. Have your finished work [As large as it can be] in one space, completely edited before it is posted. [aka, a final copy]:

Country: The Country You live in

Party: The Party you register as or are most closely associated to in your own country

Social issues: How the country should handle the controversy over social issues, [Example; persue activism, persue reactionism, put it to a state level, let the courts decide, etc. etc.] Discussing each social issue or particular social issues in bullet form is advised. Religion is a social issue, Education can go under Social issues but you can also Create an Education section if you like.

Education: Reason above

International Terrorism: Discuss how one handles issues PARTICULAR to the spread of Islamic extremism and the increasing militant nature of Muslims living in western europe, the conflicts between muslims and hindu's in northwest india, and the Arab-Israeli conflict. Etc. Etc. How would you combat the problem or would you even care? is it not a problem or is it something that cannot be fixed in any way?

Economic: Particular Economic Issues of the time pertaining to the united states, Gas prices, mortgage rates, or anything you feel is important to you; these are just some examples. Social Security, the ones mentioned before, off sourcing jobs, etc. etc.

Social Security: I gave a separate section to social security because i feel it is a combination of both social and economic; and it's a particular issue that i think deserves it's own separate space. Discuss your policy of social security, Expand, Reduce, Abolish, Reform [if so how and why], Etc. etc.

Enviormental: Global Warming, Ozone Layers, Hurricanes, Pollution, anything pertaining to man's relationship with the environment. What is the goal of your policy and how do you want it to be put to effect.

International Affairs: How do you deal with other Countries, this includes everything from the relationship between the US and the UN, issues in Africa, Anything across the oceans that you think is important.

Immigration: How should the united states handle immigration policy, particularly, what should it do about illegal immigration and illegals already in the US.

Other: Anything i missed or you feel is important, make it into your own category [you need not call it other]

[poxpower]

smells like homework...

[SmilezRoyale]

At 4/30/08 05:34 PM, poxpower wrote: smells like homework...

I'm taking world history class, this isn't homework.

Plus, waiting for a worthwhile response would take me longer than writing 3 of these things i bet.

If you want proof, my teacher does have a school webpage.

[poxpower]

At 4/30/08 05:49 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote:

Plus, waiting for a worthwhile response would take me longer than writing 3 of these things i bet.

well the school year is pretty much over anyways...
And I AM pretty bored... and it IS pretty cold outside so I can't work outside today : (

At 4/30/08 05:25 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote:

Country:

The United Republic of Canadistan

Party

blah

Social issues and education:

hmmm

- Immigrants from religious countries must renounce their religion or stay the fuck away from us.

- Churches will not get any tax cuts, they are cults and should be treated as such. Religious leaders are to be excluded from political social debates during election times. ( I bet Obama wishes Wright would have shut his cakehole now... ha )

- The drinking age should be lowered to 19

- the driving age should rise to 18-19

- You don't get the right to vote unless you finish High School. Though shit.

- If you don't speak english good enough and enough people complain, you get sent to a special school until you pass and YOU FOOT THE BILL. If you don't pass, you lose the right to vote, you lose your business and you can fuck off back wence you came.

- Inspectors shall be sent to ethnic places to make sure business-owners speak and write in english. We want your food, your music, your culture but not your language.

- No one can run for high-office ( governor and above ) without a minimal set of scientific knowledge that exceeds high school level ( to be determined by whoever is smart enough ). Classes like advanced physics, chemistry, maths, biology, economics etc. Basically, you don't get to be president if you don't know the first fucking thing about biology because then you pass stupid bills against stem cell research.

-Bars can't sell a pint of beer for more than 6 dollars. I MEAN, COME ON GUYS. haha

-There will be no private schools of any cultural of religious affiliation. In fact, no private schools below high school.

- You can't have more than 4 children unless you have a special permit. Should you have more with no permit, we will sterilize you, man or woman. Permit will check for education level, income and criminal records. If you have a criminal record, you don't need more than 4 kids, seriously.

International Terrorism:

- Don't let any immigrants from those countries in here. Ever.

-Attack as soon as they even threaten to get nuclear weapons or whatever. Fuck them in the ass.

-If money permits, take the place and make sure they don't pass the religion onto the kids.

It's really, really hard to deal with those people because they have a deadman's switch pressed down and they make crazy demands of people 'OR ELSE WE BLOW THE WORLD UP". We can't let them have nukes, we just can't. Never.
We should threaten those countries that if they try to get nukes, we will attack without mercy and the people are warned to pressure their own governement if they want to keep their house. How do you like it when we terrorize YOU for a change, jerks?

Economic:

I don't know much about economics.

Social Security

No plans there either. Doubt there's a perfect system.

Enviormental:

- Whatever scientists say goes. People who are not authorities on these subjects should NOT be heard because they just make us all stall.
If they say something is happening, then we have to take their word for it and either act to fix it or not, but that's another question entirely. No more bullshitting from assholes with vested economic interests who try to sound benevolent.
And it goes the other way too, no more lobbying from idiot environementalists with their tin foil hats about how scary Nuclear power is and about how we'll all die if we don't start eating tofu instead of meat.

If we could just get the damn truth about the pros and cons for once, then we could make decisions based on economics instead of heart strings, which we'd all benefit from.

So how do we do this? Well whenever there's a debate, we invite people who know what they're talking about instead of invinting a guy who knows and a guy who thinks he knows because it makes good tv or radio or whatever. It's not good journalism to find one intelligent guy and make him waste his time debating with a legion of paranoid losers.

International Affairs:

no opinion really. I guess we can sterilize the african continent for a generation or two to save them from themselves. Cheaper than trying to open schools in mine fields. Blah.

Immigration:

Catapult?

[n64kid]

At 4/30/08 05:25 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: This thread is either going to be fascinating, or a total disaster. Read to the very bottom before doing anything.

I don't read the bottom first.

This thread is not going to be a debate thread, meaning that you are at absolutely no liberty to argue or counter-argue any sort of point that is made in this thread; and i discourage any form of criticism or argument at all. [At least not until the 3rd or 4th page of this thread]

I think you're wrong about everything. YOU FAIL0RZ!

I R smileztehn00blet

Haha quote editing.

Rules rules rules

I hate you. This is stupid. I am so not doing your homework for you.

Country: The Country You live in

The United States.

Party:

Centrist Party

Social issues:

Live at let live. By that I mean kill fetuses. Gain that we don't give a shit mentality

Education:

Force public schools to compete with private schools. Offer vouchers to the well deserved. Invest in quality teachers and infrastructure while removing bureacracy. Overseers aren't effective. Treat each school as it's own independant unit. Force it to run like a business. Allow corporate sponsors to flood the school with ads for junk food and soft drinks.

International Terrorism:

Outlaw religion that advocates breaking what I'd call a felony.

Economic: Particular Economic Issues of the time pertaining to the united states, Gas prices, mortgage rates, or anything you feel is important to you; these are just some examples. Social Security, the ones mentioned before, off sourcing jobs, etc. etc.

Government subsidies to everyone, continue subsidies for farmers, but not for growing products no one buys. Limited regulation. Price caps when necessary. Outsourcing is just fine. Social security being abolished with educational programs on how to invest in an IRA.

Social Security:

Fuck it. Fuck it in the ass.

Enviormental: Global Warming, Ozone Layers, Hurricanes, Pollution, anything pertaining to man's relationship with the environment. What is the goal of your policy and how do you want it to be put to effect.

Resolve: Reduce the amount of particulates in every city to at most the national set limit of safety.
Climate change isn't caused by us anyways. All new energy is to be provided by nuclear energy, unless another source proves to be more viable in a specific region.

International Affairs:

Take over Africa. Capitalize on the natural resources. Turn cities into tourist destinations.
No tolerance policy. Piss me off, you're invaded. No questions, no one world power telling me what to do, no outside opinions.

Immigration:

Your question seems to only apply to America.

I would heighten security at our borders stopping new illegals from coming in.
Step two: weed out each illegal that breaks a law, or is tracked by the INS. There would also be a 1000 dollar reward for the successful arrest resulting from a civilian tip.
Step three: allow those in school and/or working for over some arbitrary time stay in America.

[hippl5]

At 4/30/08 05:25 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: Country: The Country You live in

USA

Social issues

Religion will be illegal

Education: Reason above

International Terrorism

How to combat Islamic extremism: Mass murder & nukes

Social Security

Won't exist

Enviormental

There will be no "green". We'll destroy any forest we please, it's not our problem, just the future generation's.

International Affairs

No more foreign aid, we'll use the money ourselves. If anyone complains, they get carpet bombed.

Immigration

Illegals come here to work? We'll give them work. Labor camps. If they don't want that, we'll strand them on an island.

Other

Legal citizens can legally own any type of firearm or bladed weapon. As long as there's no criminal record.

[SmilezRoyale]

At 4/30/08 07:15 PM, n64kid wrote:

Your question seems to only apply to America.

Yes. Exactly. That's up in my writing on what to do.

And no satire or sarcasm please; there is no point. You are just saying 'i hate this, this this and this' Which goes against the double negative rule. If you don't stand FOR anything, being AGAINST something is useless and idiotic.

[n64kid]

At 4/30/08 08:08 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote:

Yes. Exactly. That's up in my writing on what to do.

Why post:

Country: The Country You live in
Party: The Party you register as or are most closely associated to in your own country

and then have issues that aren't neutral or universal?

And no satire or sarcasm please; there is no point. You are just saying 'i hate this, this this and this' Which goes against the double negative rule.

Err... I replied to the post, I just didn't like how the rules made up the majority of your post.
My "omg I hate this" are hilarious antics loved by all. L-O-V-E-D B-Y A-L-L.

[SmilezRoyale]

At 4/30/08 08:35 PM, n64kid wrote:

At 4/30/08 08:08 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote:

Yes. Exactly. That's up in my writing on what to do.

Why post:

Country: The Country You live in
Party: The Party you register as or are most closely associated to in your own country

and then have issues that aren't neutral or universal?

And no satire or sarcasm please; there is no point. You are just saying 'i hate this, this this and this' Which goes against the double negative rule.

Err... I replied to the post, I just didn't like how the rules made up the majority of your post.
My "omg I hate this" are hilarious antics loved by all. L-O-V-E-D B-Y A-L-L.

Not you, and the party outlook is important. The way you think ANOTHER country should be run is as important as the way you think YOUR country should be run, in a different manner.

[poxpower]

At 4/30/08 08:08 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote:

And no satire or sarcasm please;

Oh, I wasn't being sarcastic.
Scary, isn't it?

[Jesus-Owns-X]

At 4/30/08 08:08 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote:

And no satire or sarcasm please

But thats what im good at!

[SmilezRoyale]

At 4/30/08 09:49 PM, poxpower wrote:

At 4/30/08 08:08 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote:

And no satire or sarcasm please;

Oh, I wasn't being sarcastic.
Scary, isn't it?

No, because it wasn't you either.

process of elimination, i hope you go DUH