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At 4/27/08 11:54 AM, kakaap wrote: ah... as i said, religion is man's way to explain the unknown. in this way, darwinism is a religion.

Stop saying such idiotic things. If Darwinism is a religion because it's a "belief", then gravity is also a religion, as is all other scientific discoveries.

Atheïsm is the explanation why the others are not true. so in fact, you could say it is not a religion.

Atheism isn't an explanation. It's the lack of belief in God. It doesn't explain why you don't believe in God, it simply says that you don't believe in God.

Just like being a veterinarian doesn't explain why you don't eat meat, it just says that you don't. It could be because you don't like meat, or because you think meat is murder, or because you are allergic to meat. Just the word "veterinarian" doesn't explain which of these things causes you to not eat mean, anymore than "atheist" doesn't explain why you don't believe in God.

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At 4/28/08 02:36 AM, Drakim wrote: Just like being a veterinarian

Vegetarian*

^_^

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At 4/26/08 02:08 AM, SirBackBoobs wrote:
Mostly accurate, one small mistake though. A theory can never become a law. A law is a simple fact, like when you throw something up, it comes down. That's the law of gravity. The theory of gravity attempts to explain why what goes up comes down, and incorporates many laws. There is no higher scientific explanation than a theory. Which is why I never really understood people who say evolution is not a science, it's a theory.

This is wholly and completely not true. Can you directly see the laws of electromagnetism and the strong and weak nuclear forces? They WERE theories, now they have been proven through experimentation and mathematical analysis as FACT, thus they have become universal physical laws. Even before a theory exists it must be supported by a lower theory or fact. Because of this, things are rarely "simple facts."

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At 4/26/08 02:04 AM, TheThing wrote: I know I'm jumping in during a conversation, but fuck you guys.

First, homosexuality is a chemical unbalance in the brain, or the wrong hormone was introduced to the fetus. It's still up in the air what makes gay people gay, but those are the 2 most popular theories.

What the fuck are you talking about? Those are not scientific theories at all, they are just more ways of making Homosexuals seem inferior to Heterosexuals. Read my second post on page two, it will explain current sciences view of Homosexuality.

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At 4/28/08 02:52 AM, G-Locked wrote:
At 4/26/08 02:08 AM, SirBackBoobs wrote:
Mostly accurate, one small mistake though. A theory can never become a law.
This is wholly and completely not true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_a s_theory_and_fact

Read this link, please!

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At 4/25/08 01:42 PM, TitusRevised wrote: My question being, why is homosexuality accepted as normal when it is unnatural?

You ask this while sitting in a chair, wearing clothes, in an air-conditioned house.

Think about that for a moment.

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At 4/25/08 01:42 PM, TitusRevised wrote: I don't know if this has been discussed already (I tried searching but didnt find anything) so I apologize if this is something old.

My question being, why is homosexuality accepted as normal when it is unnatural?

Natural selection says that only those most capable of producing healthy offspring are the 'fittest' and thus the most fit will keep their genes in the gene pool while those infertile or simply too unhealthy to produce offspring will die and their genes weeded out. Should sexual orientation be genetic, then shouldn't homosexuals be the arch-enemy of natural selection, and be completely eradicated by millions of years of evolution?

Actually, there is a growing amount of research stating that homosexuality is transferred via a recessive gene on the mother's side. So suppose someone has two children. In one child, the gene is expressed (he is homosexual), and in the other, it isn't (she is heterosexual). Both children still have the gene and can transmit it to offspring. Read the book Genome by Matt Ridley. He does a good job explaining how seemingly undesirable genes (at least from an evolutionary perspective) still exist even after millions of years of evolution.


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At 4/28/08 02:52 AM, G-Locked wrote:
At 4/26/08 02:08 AM, SirBackBoobs wrote:
Mostly accurate, one small mistake though. A theory can never become a law. A law is a simple fact, like when you throw something up, it comes down. That's the law of gravity. The theory of gravity attempts to explain why what goes up comes down, and incorporates many laws. There is no higher scientific explanation than a theory. Which is why I never really understood people who say evolution is not a science, it's a theory.
This is wholly and completely not true. Can you directly see the laws of electromagnetism and the strong and weak nuclear forces? They WERE theories, now they have been proven through experimentation and mathematical analysis as FACT, thus they have become universal physical laws. Even before a theory exists it must be supported by a lower theory or fact. Because of this, things are rarely "simple facts."

You're thinking of a hypotheses. The laws of electromagnetism and strong and weak nuclear forces where hypotheses until they became laws.

"A scientific law, is a law-like statement that generalizes across a set of conditions. To be accorded law-like status a wide variety of these conditions should be known, i.e. the law has a well documented history of successful replication and extension to new conditions. Ideally boundary conditions, where the law fails, should also be known.

A scientific law concerns the physical world. It therefore must have empirical content and consequently be capable of testing and potentially of disproof. Analytic statements that are true or false by logic alone are not scientific laws, though may feature as part of scientific theories.

"The concept of a scientific law is closely related to the concept of a scientific theory. A scientific law attempts to describe an observation in nature while a scientific theory attempts to explain it.


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hello.

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Sorry for the double post.

The last quotation mark should be after all the text. The way it was made it seem as if I added in the last bit. Just to let you know :D


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At 4/25/08 03:06 PM, Palomides wrote: Evolution is a religion.

This kind sir speaks the truth.
Evolution is a religion like it or not.


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At 4/29/08 02:31 PM, MyMonkey wrote:
At 4/25/08 03:06 PM, Palomides wrote: Evolution is a religion.
This kind sir speaks the truth.
Evolution is a religion like it or not.

How can two people be so stupid?

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At 4/29/08 02:47 PM, n64kid wrote:
At 4/29/08 02:31 PM, MyMonkey wrote:
At 4/25/08 03:06 PM, Palomides wrote: Evolution is a religion.
This kind sir speaks the truth.
Evolution is a religion like it or not.
How can two people be so stupid?

Yea lol, it's like that guy totally ignored the 3 last pages.

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Being homosexual is NOT natural. Not only is it impossible for two people of the same gender to reproduce, but think about it. When you see gay couples one plays the role of the female and one plays the role of the male, right? Explain THAT Elton John. Besides, lesbians can't even have what would qualify as sex, and gays fuck up all kinds of things when they give it to eachother up the ass.


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Evolution is NOT a religion. Religions are beliefs in a supernatural power. Evolution states we came from earthly things, which is not supernatural, it's natural. You don't use faith etc. to believe in evolution, you use "scientific facts" which aren't even facts at all. Things aren't "evolving" and the example of bacteria growing is a mere illustration.


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At 4/29/08 03:35 PM, roachcore wrote: Being homosexual is NOT natural.

1. Read the thread before you post.
2. Elaborate or your opinion holds no value.

Not only is it impossible for two people of the same gender to reproduce

But it is possible, just not with each other.

When you see gay couples one plays the role of the female and one plays the role of the male, right?

Who's the bitch?

Explain THAT Elton John. Besides, lesbians can't even have what would qualify as sex, and gays fuck up all kinds of things when they give it to eachother up the ass.

Go away!

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At 4/29/08 03:35 PM, roachcore wrote: Being homosexual is NOT natural.

Prove it.

Not only is it impossible for two people of the same gender to reproduce,

Infertile couples can't reproduce, should we stop them getting married?

Besides, lesbians can't even have what would qualify as sex, and gays fuck up all kinds of things when they give it to eachother up the ass.

I hope that you're trying to be satirical.

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I think that homosexuality might be nature's way of reacting to overpopulation.


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At 4/30/08 03:46 AM, aliensecretion wrote: I think that homosexuality might be nature's way of reacting to overpopulation.

You are wrong.

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Your fucking asshole is not suppose to stretch out for the entrance of a dick. Your ass muscles are suppose to push things out, not take things in. Which explains why dudes have to wear assplugs after so long because their shit starts to fall out. thats why its unnatural. Also, lesbians cant even have sex. ALSO. Gay people cannot reproduce. "not with eachother"? Thats the whole fucking point asshole.


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At 4/30/08 06:21 AM, roachcore wrote: Your fucking asshole is not suppose to stretch out for the entrance of a dick.

unless you take tiny dumps, feces is generally comparable in size. (either that or too much porno has warped your concept of phallus size)

Your ass muscles are suppose to push things out, not take things in.

my biceps are supposed to bend my arm forward therefore its bad to straigthen my arm.

Which explains why dudes have to wear assplugs after so long because their shit starts to fall out. thats why its unnatural.

odd how something that should be a common problem among those who have anal sex (remember; both men and women have anuses [shouldn't it be anii?]) seems completley unheard of.

Also, lesbians cant even have sex.

note that non-vaginal intercourse is referred to as sex as well.

ALSO. Gay people cannot reproduce. "not with eachother"? Thats the whole fucking point asshole.

then you should specify. homosexuals are not neccessarily sterile, making your point ridiculous. obviously they can't reproduce with each other but they can and do reproduce.

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At 4/30/08 06:21 AM, roachcore wrote: Your fucking asshole is not suppose to stretch out for the entrance of a dick.
push things out,
take things in.
dudes have to wear assplugs
so long
shit starts to fall out
whole fucking point asshole.

What is it with you and asses? Do you speak from experience? A closet gay perhaps? Feces seems to be a problem with you too. I should introduce you to POOPIES and maybe Penis-Plant.

Anyways you say anal isn't natural, but not homosexuality. You haven't proved either, though. Cases of not shitting right after taking it in the ass doesn't prove it's not natural, just that people weren't responsibile after that greasy night.
Eeeww.

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