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At 8/6/08 05:45 PM, CynicalScythe wrote: Really sorry for the double post. Finished the last noe, and forgot to add this before hitting Post.

I guess your not used to other people posting in this topic, that wasnt a double post :P

SPOILERS

Honestly, I don't think we should have to put spoilers at the top of pretty much every single post. People shouldn't read a discussion if they don't want to find out about the plot.

Blegh. I Shirley had no purpose in the series other than getting in Lelouch's way. I wasn't attached to her character so her dying couldn't have phased me less. I'm gald she's out of the way. And as for Rolo, he may have killed her and Lelouch may have wanted revenge. But Rolo is useful. His confidence in Lelouch will not be shaken, and his skills and his geass prove to be useful. Sure he's a cold hearted bastard. But he's one of the MOST useful pawns he has.

I never cared for her much either, but I was shocked that they actually killed her off. It seemed like so far, the writers were intent on keeping every character they'd developed.

Again, Lelouch doesn't need to stain his hands in love. That could put him in a questionable position. And compromise a lot of what he's worked for.

If Lelouche did in fact kill Rolo, do you think the Black Knights wouldn't notice?

At 8/6/08 04:53 PM, Mercenary81 wrote: I know what you mean, but soon i just found myself saying "When's she gonna wake up?"

Meh. I never was really attached to CC in the begining. She can stay this way or wake up. Its all good to me.

I can see that happening. I don't like this C.C nearly as much

Again. Its probable, but who knows with this series. And again, i dont really care about CC that much.

Even so, she's still pretty frail. She freaks out at the slightest thing, even if she does trust him to an extent. I understand why though, was a slave, blah blah blah.

Yeah the whole her being immortal and knowing martial arts was useful. Now she's not.

Well I actually like the name, I just don't like reading it. I correct myself everytime I read it. Just a quirk in my personality i guess. I've never heard Natalie instead of Nunally, but I can understand Kallen instead of Karen.

I saw it an a certain sub. The first episodes where like that then it switched.

At 8/6/08 05:51 PM, Mercenary81 wrote: I guess your not used to other people posting in this topic, that wasnt a double post :P

Usually just me an Animetal. Though we've found alternate means to discuss.

Honestly, I don't think we should have to put spoilers at the top of pretty much every single post. People shouldn't read a discussion if they don't want to find out about the plot.

Yeah but you know. Hate to ruin some poor fools day.

I never cared for her much either, but I was shocked that they actually killed her off. It seemed like so far, the writers were intent on keeping every character they'd developed.

I wasn't so much shocked as excited. I wanted her to die, ever since she figured who Zero was.

If Lelouche did in fact kill Rolo, do you think the Black Knights wouldn't notice?

They're already very close to mutiny. Scared cause they killed innocents, and such. Killing a black knight would push them over the edge.

At 8/6/08 05:58 PM, CynicalScythe wrote: Meh. I never was really attached to CC in the begining. She can stay this way or wake up. Its all good to me.

I really don't know why i am, to be honest

Again. Its probable, but who knows with this series. And again, i dont really care about CC that much.

I really haven't been able to predict a single major plot twist. At times, I thought i knew what was gonna happen, only to be left in a wtf moment.

Yeah the whole her being immortal and knowing martial arts was useful. Now she's not.

There are a whole bunch of unexplained things. Not only have they not developed several characters, but there are those loose ends. Like when C.C was in a Knightmare and something went on with her and Anya. You know what im talking about? It was when they were holed up in the tomb.

I saw it an a certain sub. The first episodes where like that then it switched.

I've seen stuff like that before.

Usually just me an Animetal. Though we've found alternate means to discuss.

What would those be?

Yeah but you know. Hate to ruin some poor fools day.

I guess i'm not as nice as you. IF someone is dumb enough to read a discussion that clearly spans the entire show, and then think they can complain that we didn't state there were spoilers, I really don't feel any pity for them.

I wasn't so much shocked as excited. I wanted her to die, ever since she figured who Zero was.

That whole episode was just a big twist. Cyborg assassin turns out to be a good guy, Shirley goes insane, Shirley isn't insane anymore, Shirley dies. I get a headache just thinking about it.

If Lelouche did in fact kill Rolo, do you think the Black Knights wouldn't notice?

They're already very close to mutiny. Scared cause they killed innocents, and such. Killing a black knight would push them over the edge.

Exactly! And throughout the whole show they're on and off trusting Zero. The only reason they even have him in command is because he gets results. A mutiny is a very possible thing in the future of the show.
Of course the die hard Zero fans in the Black Knights would not stand for this, and i'm pretty sure Zero would win them back if there was a mutiny.

First off, about C.C.'s memory loss, i'm torn. I always thought that she was a perfectly fine character, and a twist was unnessasary. On the other hand, it's a good plot device now that she's almost useless. I mean, she's saved Lulouche's ass on multiple occasions, but now she's almost a liability.
And CynicalScythe, you're right. Zero didn't NEED to get his hands dirty, but he WANTED to. The bomb that he planted on Rolo's Knightmare is proof of that. You're also right that it would put him in a questionable position, but that's the point. Due to his loss, he wasn't thinking logically. He didn't weigh the consequences of his future actions because all he cared about at that moment was revenge.

.........wow. Pretty dead in here, huh? Anyway, who else saw ep 16 of the first season in english? it just aired today, and it got me thinking, why the change in language? What I mean by this is, for example, in the japanese version, during the flashback, when Nunnaly asks about the rancid smell while they were traveling through the sea of dead bodies, Lulouche says they were walking past a dumpster. While in the english version, it gets changed to a garbage dump. two different things. Also, another change was when Mao reveals Suzaku killed his father, Lulouche ordered him to "shut up". In english it was changed to "never speak again". Whether this was to clarify the order or not, I still think I perfered the change. It's one of those minor things that doesn't even matter, but still, it's just one of those things that you just ask yourself. .. but I digress (REALLY?)

And in an attempt to inject some life here, I ask you, fellow members, who, so far, has been your favorite minor character? i.e. no Lulouche, Suzaku, C.C., or the like. Student Council members, Lloyd, Guilford, you know not MAJOR players but still signifigant. I would have to say Shirley. I just guess I'm a sucker for a love story. I really rooted for them to, somehow, pull through. And really, a worse thing couldn't happen to a nicer girl. She really just wanted to be with him, even though he was indirectly responsible for her father's death. It was sad, and I can't get enough of a tragic story. Also, she managed to get Villetta Nu in that swimsuit. That's a plus. Anyway, enough demented rambling. (I will be amazed if those two paragraphs make any sense to anybody.)

At 8/10/08 03:21 AM, DeathNoteetoNhtaeD wrote:

And in an attempt to inject some life here, I ask you, fellow members, who, so far, has been your favorite minor character?

Disregard that question, because that attempt obviously failed. But anyway, I just saw ep 18 of R2 and I must say, it was epic in every sense of the word. I won't go into plot details since I don't know if anybody else has seen it, but it has to be on of my favorite episodes. Huge stuff happens. But I don't know. If this week is anything like the last I might as well be talking to myself...

meh, the episodes are great sop far but they should have kept the 1st theme song =P

Shouldn´t this be in the anime club? I just finished watching the first season, i´ll join.

At 8/14/08 12:24 PM, DeIirium wrote: Shouldn´t this be in the anime club? I just finished watching the first season, i´ll join.

I´ll be Ganymede, since that´s the coolest Knightmare name.

At 8/14/08 12:14 PM, cyrusdachickmagnet wrote: they should have kept the 1st theme song =P

Yeah, definitely. Most of the other themes they use are just annoying, but the first one in R2 is painful.
"I continue to fight"? really? and in broken english no less... I think my ears are still bleeding.

At 8/14/08 12:28 PM, DeIirium wrote:

I´ll be Ganymede, since that´s the coolest Knightmare name.

On one hand, it's really old and weak. On the other hand, it can make giant pizzas. so... yeah, you're right.
*facepalm* now I wish I had thought of that! Oh, and if you haven't watched up to ep 18 of R2, do yourself a favor and do so. The entire season has twists and turns, but ep 18 has, I think, the biggest one.

At 8/15/08 01:55 AM, DeathNoteetoNhtaeD wrote:

At 8/14/08 12:28 PM, DeIirium wrote:

I´ll be Ganymede, since that´s the coolest Knightmare name.

On one hand, it's really old and weak. On the other hand, it can make giant pizzas. so... yeah, you're right.
*facepalm* now I wish I had thought of that! Oh, and if you haven't watched up to ep 18 of R2, do yourself a favor and do so. The entire season has twists and turns, but ep 18 has, I think, the biggest one.

I haven´t seen R2, i got done watching the first season a few days ago. I should get to it.

At 8/14/08 02:13 PM, DeathNoteetoNhtaeD wrote:
the other themes they use are just annoying,

After some thought, the most recent theme (World's End) isn't really bad, actually, it's pretty good. Anyways, ep 19 is up, and I have to say, I thought ep 18 was the best, but this just... wow. Ep 18 was epic, but really, ep 19 redefines epic. It was emotional, amazing, and backs my belief that Code Geass is the best anime out there.
And now something else needs to be said. Where the hell is everybody? It's been almost two weeks since anybody else posted besides the new blood. So really? Did you all just die? Or do I have something to do with this?

.............so,.....how 'bout them Bears?

............................They suck. Ok wow. I'm not even staying on topic anymore. see what happens when I'm bored?

ep 20 is up. decent, not great.

Summary

Enclosed within the enigmatic Central Dogma that lies deep beneath the surface of reality, Gendou and Shinji Ikari have a father-to-son chat over the future of humanity. Gendou is trying to activate the final stage of the Human Instrumentality Project, widely known as the Third Impact.

They are soon joined by the physical manifestation of Yui Ikari's spirit, who has long been hidden in the body of another after her mysterious death. It turns out that Gendou, despite his self-scripted cold-hearted nature, has never stopped loving Yui. Shinji is shocked to discover that his long-dead mother has been so close to him all these years, and that the father he so despised turns out to be merely misunderstood.

With Rei Ayanami, the immortal Lilith, as the catalyst of the final stage, and Gendou at the controls, the Human Instrumentality Project is about to reach completion. Although the original plan calls for the unity of Adam and EVA-01 in achieving this, circumstances have changed and the improvisation will be sufficient for Gendou's intention. Absolute Territory Field, the invisible metaphysical barrier that separates the collective consciousness of mankind into unique independent individuals is about to be destroyed, and all evils will be removed from the world. Gendou is about to create a kind world where tragedies such as the one his family went through will never again happen.

But the very desire for peace and kindness will be erased by the removal of individuality. Hatred will disappear, but so will love. Shinji, though temporarily overwhelmed by the futility of his past actions, realizes that this is not the kind of world he wished for when he fought for peace. He declares his intention to stop his father's actions, which he sees as a selfish desire that Gendou is trying to force upon the world.

Rei, though she has an emotionless exterior, is deeply in love with Shinji, the son of the woman who gave her life. She betrays the trust of Gendou and helps hand the keys to humanity's future to Shinji.

Real summary

Replace Shinji with Lelouch, Gendou with Charles, Rei with C.C. and Yui with Marianne. I guess Kallen is Asuka, but I'm not comfortable with it because I hate Asuka. The analogy kind of falls apart when it comes to Suzaku, the extra guy. Oh well. Maybe he's Gendou's former bitch, Ritsuko.

At 9/1/08 05:42 PM, AniMetal wrote: Summary

Enclosed within the enigmatic Central Dogma that lies deep beneath the surface of reality, Gendou and Shinji Ikari have a father-to-son chat over the future of humanity. Gendou is trying to activate the final stage of the Human Instrumentality Project, widely known as the Third Impact.

They are soon joined by the physical manifestation of Yui Ikari's spirit, who has long been hidden in the body of another after her mysterious death. It turns out that Gendou, despite his self-scripted cold-hearted nature, has never stopped loving Yui. Shinji is shocked to discover that his long-dead mother has been so close to him all these years, and that the father he so despised turns out to be merely misunderstood.

With Rei Ayanami, the immortal Lilith, as the catalyst of the final stage, and Gendou at the controls, the Human Instrumentality Project is about to reach completion. Although the original plan calls for the unity of Adam and EVA-01 in achieving this, circumstances have changed and the improvisation will be sufficient for Gendou's intention. Absolute Territory Field, the invisible metaphysical barrier that separates the collective consciousness of mankind into unique independent individuals is about to be destroyed, and all evils will be removed from the world. Gendou is about to create a kind world where tragedies such as the one his family went through will never again happen.

But the very desire for peace and kindness will be erased by the removal of individuality. Hatred will disappear, but so will love. Shinji, though temporarily overwhelmed by the futility of his past actions, realizes that this is not the kind of world he wished for when he fought for peace. He declares his intention to stop his father's actions, which he sees as a selfish desire that Gendou is trying to force upon the world.

Rei, though she has an emotionless exterior, is deeply in love with Shinji, the son of the woman who gave her life. She betrays the trust of Gendou and helps hand the keys to humanity's future to Shinji.

Real summary

Replace Shinji with Lelouch, Gendou with Charles, Rei with C.C. and Yui with Marianne. I guess Kallen is Asuka, but I'm not comfortable with it because I hate Asuka. The analogy kind of falls apart when it comes to Suzaku, the extra guy. Oh well. Maybe he's Gendou's former bitch, Ritsuko.

Huh. Wow. It all makes sense now. Kudos for the impressive analogy. And, yeah, it kinda does fall apart when you get to Suzaku, but hey, you kept a huge analogy perfect for longer than I could have.
Although, I wouldn't like thinking of Suzaku as Charles' bitch. Since he's not. If you've seen up to ep 21 of R2, Suzaku's gone from being Euphemia's bitch to Charles' bitch (so yeah, I guess you're right) to Luluche's bitch. And, correct me if I'm wrong, are the characters in the analogy from Neon Genisis Evangeleon? Just a stab in the dark.Also, what you said made me realize something. If Luluche ends up with a girl at the end of the series, who will it be? C.C. or Kallen? My guess: neither.

oh, and: To Whom It May Concern: ep 21 is up. Best one yet, in terms of reveals, and cliffhangers.

I was comparing the ending of Neon Genesis Evangelion to episode 21 of code geass R2, so of course i've seen it.

Suzaku is a fag.

/END.

At 9/1/08 07:26 PM, AniMetal wrote: I was comparing the ending of Neon Genesis Evangelion to episode 21 of code geass R2, so of course i've seen it.

Suzaku is a fag.

/END.

Sorry, I've never seen Neon Genisis Evangeleon, I've just heard of it and recognized the names of some of the characters. So I wouldn't know. And I personnally wouldn't go so far as to say Suzaku's a fag, but his personality does wear thin at times.

At 9/1/08 07:26 PM, AniMetal wrote: I was comparing the ending of Neon Genesis Evangelion to episode 21 of code geass R2, so of course i've seen it.

You're a pathetic liar.

Delicious copypasta, though.

At 9/2/08 05:58 PM, Gendo wrote:

You're a pathetic liar.

Delicious copypasta, though.

Finally, I knew he wasn't intelligent enough to type that himself(Even though the context is stupid), at least, not without making a handful of spelling and grammar mistakes.

Man, first a suck-up/insecure/overly sensitive/ stupid/ immature child. Now he's a thief, joy.

I've been watching this on adult swim ever since it came out. I think it's pretty good :D

At 9/2/08 06:36 PM, Gein wrote: I've been watching this on adult swim ever since it came out. I think it's pretty good :D

I think the dub is really good.

If the dub was alot farther I totally would watch it over the sub.

At 9/2/08 05:58 PM, Gendo wrote: You're a pathetic liar.

Liar? I don't recall to have said I made that myself.

If you watch thst episode the only thing you're thinking of is how similar it is to NGE that it feels like CLAMP is stealing ideas.

Delicious copypasta, though.

Agreed.

I actually did make a connection between them when I was watching the latetest episode but I wouldn't have said anything more than "The latest episode is like NGE completely, only with different characters and more sense."

I just happened on that blog by luck and thought it was cool.

This thread needed a bump anyway.

I don't really feel like watching subs, I got sick of it after watching 140 bleach episodes.

At 9/2/08 07:03 PM, AniMetal wrote: Liar? I don't recall to have said I made that myself.
At 9/1/08 07:26 PM, AniMetal wrote: I was comparing the ending of Neon Genesis Evangelion to episode 21 of code geass R2, so of course i've seen it.

Shut up.

You're not even trying, are you?

At 9/2/08 07:03 PM, AniMetal wrote:

Liar? I don't recall to have said I made that myself.

Oh really?

At 9/1/08 07:26 PM, AniMetal wrote: I was comparing the ending of Neon Genesis Evangelion to episode 21 of code geass R2,

You claimed you made the whole thing, right here in this sentence. You should have just linked instead of copy pasting.

Wait I forgot, you like to steal things and make it as your own.

Typical.

Mind if I join? I have a love/hate relationship with Code Geass, r1 was awesome, but r2 failed horribly, untill the hilarious episode 21. Now that the writers have given up, the trainwreck of the show is just doomed to be so bad it shall fail epicly. I am betting on a tang ending, by the way.....

At 9/2/08 08:07 PM, uhnoesanoob wrote: Mind if I join? I have a love/hate relationship with Code Geass, r1 was awesome, but r2 failed horribly, untill the hilarious episode 21. Now that the writers have given up, the trainwreck of the show is just doomed to be so bad it shall fail epicly. I am betting on a tang ending, by the way.....

Which is not to say that I believe it is anything like NGE, but merely that the only ending the writers are skilled enough to do is an oh fuck the world ending.

At 7/20/08 03:24 PM, InsanelyFrozenMetal wrote: Hey I've thought of something to discuss! According to the history of Britannia the year a.t.b. started after Caesar's invasion and according to our history that happened about 50 years before the year A.D. was established. So wouldn't that mean that the setting of Code Geass is actually in the past and not in the future?

Weird, huh? But it makes you think, doesn't it? The Holy Empire of Britannia occupys the Americas, so it's easy to associate in a way the U.S. to Britannia. If the U.S. became a totalitarian state, and poured all it's funding into the military, just think what would be possible today. I actually do believe that creating and powering a mech would be possible in the near future. What you would need is: a government willing to sink that kind of money into that kind of Science fiction, a massive power source, and a logical and sophisticated control system that can replicate humanoid movement. Many other things are needed of course, but you get my point. BTW, I'm not talking like, Lancelot here. A variation of the Sutherland, maybe. But if the U.S. wasn't successful in the revolution, and spearhead Democracy, the Code Geass timeline might not be quite so far from reality.

Wow. I'm crazy, aren't I ?

At 9/2/08 08:07 PM, uhnoesanoob wrote: Mind if I join? I have a love/hate relationship with Code Geass, r1 was awesome, but r2 failed horribly, untill the hilarious episode 21. Now that the writers have given up, the trainwreck of the show is just doomed to be so bad it shall fail epicly. I am betting on a tang ending, by the way.....

Not at all. No spamming, flaming, etc., you know the drill. First off, I don't get how you can hate R2. Sure the first 10 or so episodes aren't great, but these past few have been the best of the entire show, IMO. So, yeah, welcome aboard.