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Oh, and holy shit balls. Nine pages? I'll have to write this down.

At 5/12/08 06:27 PM, Orange-Jews wrote: Stuff

Honestly, all I see in your arguments is bullshit. You get disproved every single time and you dodged every question Cellar has provided. You've contradicted yourself in your posts, and even admitted to posting just to troll the guy.

"2 of which are Clearly jokes. and 1 was to piss you off."

Admit it, you lost a debate because cannot articulate your point, and now you hate Cellar for beating you. You've been proven wrong, but you still haven't provided anything more than an opinion to:
1. Back yourself up
2. Refute Cellar's claims

So before criticizing him by bringing up something irrelevant to harm the guy, you should better your own posts first.

I have to say, as a bystander in every thread I've seen with you two arguing, the best you can do is attack Cellar personally. You have not fooled anyone.

At 5/12/08 05:00 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Stuff

Look children, the douchebag is here!

At 5/12/08 06:50 PM, n64kid wrote:

At 5/12/08 06:27 PM, Orange-Jews wrote: Stuff

Honestly, all I see in your arguments is bullshit. You get disproved every single time and you dodged every question Cellar has provided. You've contradicted yourself in your posts, and even admitted to posting just to troll the guy.

"2 of which are Clearly jokes. and 1 was to piss you off."

Admit it, you lost a debate because cannot articulate your point, and now you hate Cellar for beating you. You've been proven wrong, but you still haven't provided anything more than an opinion to:
1. Back yourself up
2. Refute Cellar's claims

So before criticizing him by bringing up something irrelevant to harm the guy, you should better your own posts first.

I have to say, as a bystander in every thread I've seen with you two arguing, the best you can do is attack Cellar personally. You have not fooled anyone.

obviously i attacked him personally you fucking idiot. the name of the thread is "Biggest Douche on NG?". not Lets discuss politics! god you're a moron. I called him a douchebag, explained why i feel that way, and he turned it into a political argument... because he knows im right. you failure.

At 5/12/08 06:54 PM, Orange-Jews wrote: obviously i attacked him personally you fucking idiot. the name of the thread is "Biggest Douche on NG?". not Lets discuss politics! god you're a moron. I called him a douchebag, explained why i feel that way, and he turned it into a political argument... because he knows im right. you failure.

Sorry man, but the fact is that you aren't right. Unless you can prove it to Cellardoor like you've been reminded so many times.

At 5/12/08 06:58 PM, Toasty4you wrote:

Sorry man, but the fact is that you aren't right. Unless you can prove it to Cellardoor like you've been reminded so many times.

okay what am i supposed to prove and ill do it.

ElectricSurge

oh wait

At 4/12/08 05:06 PM, GiantDouche wrote: Sup.

Him?

AMIDOINITRITE?

There's so much hate :( be friends everyone.

At 5/12/08 06:54 PM, Orange-Jews wrote:

obviously i attacked him personally you fucking idiot. the name of the thread is "Biggest Douche on NG?". not Lets discuss politics! god you're a moron. I called him a douchebag, explained why i feel that way, and he turned it into a political argument... because he knows im right. you failure.

Have you been paying attention to YOUR posts in THIS thread? You turned it into a flame war when you tried to pass off opinion as fact. Saying "I nominate Cellardoor6 for biggest douche" is not my problem. You saying he is illogical and an idiot based on false claims is called libel.

Think of it like this, if you knew you won the debate, you wouldn't be mad at the guy. Seeing how you know you lost in every debate you had with him, including the one in this thread shows me that you're a crybaby who has to say "you're older than me loser" to justify your loss. Plain and simple.

I posted only to raise your attention that in debates, including the one in this thread, you don't address the information provided, never provide your own relevant information, and can't word your posts in a clear manner.

It's funny how you start off calling me a fucking idiot when you can't realize your own shortcomings. You have been proven to be an idiot, and I'm trying to help you.

At 5/12/08 07:02 PM, Sawke wrote: There's so much hate :( be friends everyone.

This thread better not get locked. > : (

At 5/12/08 06:44 PM, Toasty4you wrote: I just reviewed and looked up over Betty's profile, and I classify him as the biggest douche in place of Zerok. Congrats Betty.

haha,dont forget to check thengpro's. http://thengpro.newgrounds.com

Oh and also,whats so bad about Zerok?He's a great mod in my opinion.
I think BBR was a bad mod...Before he was Demodded,people wanted him to be demodded,
and they supported that idea very well,Well,im actually on the side thats glad he was demodded.
But then again,these are opinions.(MI SECKSAY BEEST ZEROKZ. :3.lol)

Arguing + Stupid Stuff + the Fact that this is NG = Utter waste of Time

Utter Waste of Time = Stupid, Useless, Pointless, etc.

Stupid, Useless, Pointless, etc. = This thread.

Therefore the argument over CAnada and the U.S. is valid.

No wait, there's more!
__________________________

U.S. & Canada = Nothing to do with NG douches.

Nothing to do with NG douches = Not directly related to thread.

Not directly related to thread = Not directly related to thread.

Therefore I am certain this was annoying to read now that I re-read this..

But still. That whole argument is getting tiresome.
-.-

At 5/12/08 07:01 PM, Orange-Jews wrote:

okay what am i supposed to prove and ill do it.

If it's not clear to you, prove what you say with evidence. You say you know Canada is better than America, so you prove it. Or you take a different route and disprove what Cellar has provided with facts, preferably backed by links.

At 5/12/08 07:03 PM, n64kid wrote:

At 5/12/08 06:54 PM, Orange-Jews wrote:

obviously i attacked him personally you fucking idiot. the name of the thread is "Biggest Douche on NG?". not Lets discuss politics! god you're a moron. I called him a douchebag, explained why i feel that way, and he turned it into a political argument... because he knows im right. you failure.

Have you been paying attention to YOUR posts in THIS thread? You turned it into a flame war when you tried to pass off opinion as fact. Saying "I nominate Cellardoor6 for biggest douche" is not my problem. You saying he is illogical and an idiot based on false claims is called libel.

I gave perfectly valid reasons for why he is a douche.

Think of it like this, if you knew you won the debate, you wouldn't be mad at the guy. Seeing how you know you lost in every debate you had with him, including the one in this thread shows me that you're a crybaby who has to say "you're older than me loser" to justify your loss. Plain and simple.

I never once used "you're old than me loser" to justify anything. I said he argues with kids to feel powerful and intelligent.. then he said I'm only angry because he proved my political views wrong... which he Didn't... because we never even argued about it before.
He avoided My argument.

I posted only to raise your attention that in debates, including the one in this thread, you don't address the information provided, never provide your own relevant information, and can't word your posts in a clear manner.

lol okay, i'll try harder from now on.

It's funny how you start off calling me a fucking idiot when you can't realize your own shortcomings. You have been proven to be an idiot, and I'm trying to help you.

Idiot.

At 5/12/08 07:09 PM, n64kid wrote:

At 5/12/08 07:01 PM, Orange-Jews wrote:

okay what am i supposed to prove and ill do it.

If it's not clear to you, prove what you say with evidence. You say you know Canada is better than America, so you prove it. Or you take a different route and disprove what Cellar has provided with facts, preferably backed by links.

In another forum, which would be nice :)

Otherwise, yeah. Good tactic.
I'm out.

Viewtiful-Chris
The biggest attention whore on NG.

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At 5/12/08 07:10 PM, Orange-Jews wrote:

I gave perfectly valid reasons for why he is a douche.

Only if the reasons are true, then they are valid. You have not supported your reasons for why he is a douche, just just say he is illogical when he is NOT.

So rather than responding to this, let's say your next post is provided with links on why you are right to get credibility and why Cellar is a douche.

I never once used "you're old than me loser" to justify anything.

Then why bring up the fact that he's 21. You brought up age, and now you're lying about it.

I'm only angry because he proved my political views wrong... which he Didn't... because we never even argued about it before.

Except he has provided evidence to prove you wrong, and you ignore it.

He avoided My argument.

Don't be ridiculous.

lol okay, i'll try harder from now on.

There's a knowing-doing gap that you need to overcome. It's not a matter of just trying but doing.

Idiot.

There is no need for that.

At 5/12/08 07:09 PM, n64kid wrote:

At 5/12/08 07:01 PM, Orange-Jews wrote:

okay what am i supposed to prove and ill do it.

If it's not clear to you, prove what you say with evidence. You say you know Canada is better than America, so you prove it. Or you take a different route and disprove what Cellar has provided with facts, preferably backed by links.

How do you prove an opinion... ?

and if you Really want links, which mean nothing to me... cause its just My opinion Canada is better.. then Here

At 5/12/08 07:07 PM, killslasher wrote: Oh and also,whats so bad about Zerok?He's a great mod in my opinion.
I think BBR was a bad mod...Before he was Demodded,people wanted him to be demodded,
and they supported that idea very well,Well,im actually on the side thats glad he was demodded.
But then again,these are opinions.(MI SECKSAY BEEST ZEROKZ. :3.lol)

Oh shit, I didn't mean Zerok. I meant Zekey. Darn me and my short term memory.

At 5/12/08 07:16 PM, n64kid wrote:

At 5/12/08 07:10 PM, Orange-Jews wrote:

I gave perfectly valid reasons for why he is a douche.

Only if the reasons are true, then they are valid. You have not supported your reasons for why he is a douche, just just say he is illogical when he is NOT.

Are you saying it's logical for a 21 year old, a grown man, to argue with kids about politics on Newgrounds?

So rather than responding to this, let's say your next post is provided with links on why you are right to get credibility and why Cellar is a douche.

I can go through his posts and link you to threads where he flames users who are Clearly 14 and under, but you can look for yourself, I don't care enough.

I never once used "you're old than me loser" to justify anything.

Then why bring up the fact that he's 21. You brought up age, and now you're lying about it.

I brought it up because that's one of the main points that makes him a douche, he's a grown man.. doing what he does. I love how you cut off the 2nd part of that and told me I'm lying, you dweeb.

I'm only angry because he proved my political views wrong... which he Didn't... because we never even argued about it before.

Except he has provided evidence to prove you wrong, and you ignore it.

Show me this Evidence, because if you Actually read what I wrote you will see he didn't prove anything wrong.

He avoided My argument.

Don't be ridiculous.

You're the one to talk.

lol okay, i'll try harder from now on.

There's a knowing-doing gap that you need to overcome. It's not a matter of just trying but doing.

Alright, then.

Idiot.

There is no need for that.

My bad.

At 5/12/08 07:17 PM, Orange-Jews wrote:

How do you prove an opinion... ?

I was going to do this in PM, but I figured some others might want to learn too.

A simple process is claim, support, warrant.
Example

Claim: Dogs are better than cats

Support: www.cats-suck.com www.dogs-rule.com

Warrant: As you can see from the links, dogs are loyal, lower stress for the owner, and contrary to popular belief, are cleaner than cats. It is also shown cats are more likely to damage furniture and carry disease.

Hope that helps.

At 5/12/08 07:26 PM, n64kid wrote:

At 5/12/08 07:17 PM, Orange-Jews wrote:

How do you prove an opinion... ?

I was going to do this in PM, but I figured some others might want to learn too.

A simple process is claim, support, warrant.
Example

Claim: Dogs are better than cats

Support: www.cats-suck.com www.dogs-rule.com

Warrant: As you can see from the links, dogs are loyal, lower stress for the owner, and contrary to popular belief, are cleaner than cats. It is also shown cats are more likely to damage furniture and carry disease.

Hope that helps.

Why did you ignore the other part of my post?
Here's another.
Also.

At 5/12/08 07:26 PM, n64kid wrote:

At 5/12/08 07:17 PM, Orange-Jews wrote:

How do you prove an opinion... ?

I was going to do this in PM, but I figured some others might want to learn too.

A simple process is claim, support, warrant.
Example

Claim: Dogs are better than cats

Support: www.cats-suck.com www.dogs-rule.com

Warrant: As you can see from the links, dogs are loyal, lower stress for the owner, and contrary to popular belief, are cleaner than cats. It is also shown cats are more likely to damage furniture and carry disease.

Hope that helps.

Opinion

1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

Chickidycow or what ev his name is... something like that...

Impatient, ignorant, and is a total fag

Not gonna respond n64kid?

fucking idiot.

Orange-Jews you got fucked up, just get over it and stop making yourself even more stupid than you already do.

At 5/12/08 08:22 PM, Rosenrot-I wrote: Orange-Jews you got fucked up, just get over it and stop making yourself even more stupid than you already do.

... read the posts on this page, you pathetic moron.

At 5/12/08 07:47 PM, xom-b wrote: Not gonna respond n64kid?

fucking idiot.

Actually, as stated by so many people, you my friend, are the idiot. But like I said, refrain from using insults towards someone who is trying to help you. =P

Like I told you in PM, 4 post limit and I don't stoop myself to using alts.

Why did you ignore the other part of my post?

Because I don't care about the debate between Canada and US right now. You posted a link for Cellar to read, I have no reason to comment on it.

However, to help you, I'll give you criticisms of that link and how to use it.

Use the link , along with a warrant to prove your point when discussing. For instance, see, they say Canada is better than the US based on the method they used. Here's a lesson in logic, if Canada is better than the US in one area, that does not mean it is a better country overall.-I see too much of this on the BBS.

A problem is the quality of the link and the methodology is weak. There's a lack of a why as well as accuracy. So you might need more depth to support your claim.

At 5/12/08 07:30 PM, xom-b wrote:

Opinion

1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

Yes, you stated an opinion. Your opinion can be a claim. You can support your opinion/claim to back it up so your opinion isn't worthless. Get it?
Remember my example? Dogs are better than cats is an OPINION. But I claimed it, while providing evidence to support it. Use that method so Cellar doesn't laugh his ass off when the best you can do is just an opinion. ELABORATE, ADD to it SUPPORT it. GET it.

Orrendamente; what a fucking jerk.