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Forum Topic: Flash Ads - Try them!

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Posted at: 4/8/08 02:29 PM

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Some of you have noticed that we've been running ads in occasional Flash submissions for the past year. We're finally ready to roll this service out to the public!

The system is still considered "beta" and we aren't promoting it heavily, but everyone is welcome to try it out and you will get paid 30 days after the end of the month the ads run in (for example, checks for February were sent in the first week of April).

Use this page to get set up:
http://www.newgrounds.com/account/flasha pi

See if you can figure out how to get going based on the information provided. You can set the ads to "disabled" while you are getting set up and if the system is working, you'll see an image of Pico with a bunch of cash in place of an ad. Once you "enable" the ads, they won't run until you have been approved to run them - which should happen within a 24 hour period. Once the ads are running, your stats will be updated hourly and you can see how much $$$ you're making!

We are still streamlining the process and setting up tutorials. If you have any questions about getting set up, PM PsychoGoldfish! This project has been his baby.

We'll be launching the payment info (address) submission form before the next payment cycle, otherwise I'll hunt down anyone who has earned more than $50 within the period. If you earn less than $50, your money will roll over to the following month and you will get a check once you hit the $50 mark.

Eventually we want to let people use the money as store credit if they're too impatient to hit the $50 mark, but we're taking things one step at a time. :)


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Awesome stuff. These ads perform really well compared to other ad options out there.

Any plans to allow version control of the game/movie with this stuff?


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Will paypal ever be a payment option?

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Version control is in there now.

What you do is plop in whatever version number your newest is at and anyone playing an old version will get a friendly notice with a link.

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Awesome Tom I might have to give those a try.


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Nice one Tom :D
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MrMacro

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That sounds cool! Putting ads into your flash sure would help make some quick cash.

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At 4/8/08 02:36 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Version control is in there now.

How about plans for an ng wrapper, so you can update the file and the wrapper will automatically be using the update?

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Brilliant, I was waiting for something like this! I tried to give it a shot on an older submission, just to see how it works, but I got a server error, but I guess that's what beta's are for ;)


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When the user clicks the version control link does it load the newest .swf version in-line or popup a new window to your specified link or what?


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I'm not expecting you guys to tell the exact figures, but just answer this: is the money better than with mochiads?


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TomFulp

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At 4/8/08 02:39 PM, Coaly wrote:
At 4/8/08 02:36 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Version control is in there now.
How about plans for an ng wrapper, so you can update the file and the wrapper will automatically be using the update?

Wrappers can get mixed results depending on stuff like actionscript cameras and whatnot, but we'll see if we ever get anywhere with that. :)


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Sounds very interesting.. Does anybody happen to have experience of this as well as Mochiads?

I suspect that these ads have a better eCPM (or whatever it's called), as the people playing flash games probably are more interested in Adventure Quest than writing their name in glitter, but maybe Mochiads gives a higher percentage of the incomes to the authors than NG?

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At 4/8/08 02:39 PM, Coaly wrote:
At 4/8/08 02:36 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Version control is in there now.
How about plans for an ng wrapper, so you can update the file and the wrapper will automatically be using the update?
At 4/8/08 02:40 PM, BoMToons wrote: When the user clicks the version control link does it load the newest .swf version in-line or popup a new window to your specified link or what?

Doing a wrapper that loads in a new version is tricky business. Right now it will load whatever url you provide in a new window (wich can help you generate site traffic).

As for a wrapper, there are 2 problems.

1) Loaded SWFs don't always behave the way they should
2) Letting any domain load your new version requires open access to your new swf and creates the potential for other 'wrappers' to leech your games without your permission.

One of the goals os this API is to help you protect your work, and I can't help but feel such an opening is counter-productive to that goal.

But who knows, maybe in the near future we'll have some options for doing this stuff with more security :D

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That sounds great. It'll be an excellent alternative to MochiAds.

What is the estimated CPM, and will we be able to use PayPal?

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At 4/8/08 02:47 PM, DreamworX wrote: Sounds very interesting.. Does anybody happen to have experience of this as well as Mochiads?

I suspect that these ads have a better eCPM (or whatever it's called), as the people playing flash games probably are more interested in Adventure Quest than writing their name in glitter, but maybe Mochiads gives a higher percentage of the incomes to the authors than NG?

I've personally used both Mochiads and NG FLash Ads, and I know from working on this that a few others have done the same.

So far we seem to have higher rates, but obviously that's something neither we nor mochi can really put a guarentee on as preformance really depends on the quality of the game and the level of distribution.

If we are comparing the two formats, I have had feedback that people prefer our ads because they are not full-screen and do not force 10-second viewing, and the animated ads do appear to get more clicks.

That said, I cannot stress enough that no matter what format you use... the quality of your work drastically effects the preformance of the ads. Not everyone will find the success that others have.

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Very impressive ;)

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At 4/8/08 02:53 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: That said, I cannot stress enough that no matter what format you use... the quality of your work drastically effects the preformance of the ads. Not everyone will find the success that others have.

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Ah I suck at noticing what is said lately. Does this mean that you get paid the more your flash is watched or the more times someone links using the add or something.

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This is great! So would we be allowed to use this for pico day based submissions or no?


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wow, now i can make money off of my movies (when i uh, release them anyways)

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This looks like a fantastic system and I'm glad everyone now is able to get in on the action. It seemed like a relatively exclusive group of people that got their hands on it before.

I can't wait to see NG becoming the biggest sponser of Flash games on the Web, rather than Armorgames...

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At 4/8/08 03:22 PM, Luis wrote: This is great! So would we be allowed to use this for pico day based submissions or no?

YES, INDEED YOU CAN! We're gonna have an alternative pre-loader to faciliate ads. :)


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At 4/8/08 03:33 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 4/8/08 03:22 PM, Luis wrote: This is great! So would we be allowed to use this for pico day based submissions or no?
YES, INDEED YOU CAN! We're gonna have an alternative pre-loader to faciliate ads. :)

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Awesome! So that means, i make money aslong as people watch my flashes?


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At 4/8/08 03:26 PM, Senti wrote: This looks like a fantastic system and I'm glad everyone now is able to get in on the action. It seemed like a relatively exclusive group of people that got their hands on it before.

eh.. quality was the only requirement to get in really, though that could be a dividing line for some, it didnt make it exclusive...
Lucky with this ad system you actually get paid your worth.


I can't wait to see NG becoming the biggest sponser of Flash games on the Web, rather than Armorgames...

lol, too late they already takin notes.

Flash Ads - Try them!

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Hey tom, how exactly do you earn? is it done my views or clciks? and also when is determines how much you earn?


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Any approximations of how much we can expect to get per 1000 views or so?

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I'll consider it when PayPal becomes a payment option. It is much faster, direct and safer than regular checks. But looks good already. :D


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