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vaan from FFXII, what a gay!! im serious, i had every other character at about lvl 60-70 and vaan was lvl 12!

At 4/30/08 01:28 PM, BeuxJ wrote: This thread has shocked me to my very core. Clearly either people suck at Final Fantasy, or just bought it because of hype and not because they actually like RPGs.

No it is an unability to accept people views and see the flaws in characters.

First of all, Yuffie is an amazing character, why do you think she was so hard to get? I know she wasn't that hard for most people but if you never looked at a guide she wasn't easy to acquire.

Oh boy are you bad at RPGs.

She had some amazing weapons with great Materia slots, she was quick, her level ratio was smaller than most RPG characters, and her LvL 3 and 4 limit breaks just pwned for damage.

Actually her level 4 limit, all creation was pathetic.

Secondly, Sephiroth does kick so much ass. Moreso than most characters. Let's be honest, he was the clone of a freak who wielded a sword and he was only beaten because he was taken 8-1 and all of his opponents were masters of their arts. Plus Sephiroth never used Materia, he was naturally powerful, with the force of the lifestream within his very blood. And he cannot catch fire, that's just useful.

Phh Sephiroth is over rated, one on one with cloud beats him. And THAT is Cloud.

And Vincent's limit breaks didn't bring him down (the third one did) but Chaos? Holy crap, what a beast.

Duh Chaos, I actually never got that one, the same with Gold Chocobos, I could never get either despite doing everything correctly on many, many occasions.

And the Leatherface limit break (which I believe was called 'Nightmare') was just novelty to the highest degree.

Stop trying to blurt random knowledge, also no.

However, I do agree that Cloud is crap. The movie AC really ruined him as a character. He was a kind of psychotic lifestream infused swordsman with a sword bigger than him. In the movie he was an Emo without the fringe and piercings. He did have a f***ing sweet bike though.

If you cannot take the character into consideration don't bother. He was a complete emo in the game, he was not bad ass in any way, he acted like it though from his story you could tell he was not.

My most useless character ever was Shadow (from one of the earlier games can't remember which, 4 maybe? or 6?) I personally didn't like his play style, and the fact that scrolls have one use and gone was annoying. Especially when none of them were really that effective.

Shadow was one of the best characters from FF6, I would have used him if I was aware you could save him, his moves with Interceptor dealt very large dammage for his level.

My favorite character ever was Cecil from 4. As a Dark Knight he was cool and as a Paladin he was kick-ass.

Cecil was a bad ass, he just used the Paladin as a cover for mass slaughter, we all know it, all Paladins are like that.

At 4/30/08 04:37 PM, Ragnarokia wrote: No it is an unability to accept people views and see the flaws in characters.

I'll accept that, my opening paragraph was a bit of a flame.

Oh boy are you bad at RPGs.

Say what you will, but I can guarantee with around 85 percent certainty that I'm a better RPG gamer than you. It's quite impossible to make that kind of statement over a single sentence and I refuse to believe that there is no-one who failed to get Yuffie. With the amount of possible outcomes and the few that attain her, she isn't the easiest RPG unlockable by any means. And if you're basing your statement on the whole Wutai experience, it wasn't included in my definition of attaining her.

Actually her level 4 limit, all creation was pathetic.

Well I got good use out of it on multiple files.

Phh Sephiroth is over rated, one on one with cloud beats him. And THAT is Cloud.

A one on one with cloud after 3 Mastered Knights of the Round. His first two forms would kick your ass if you had only cloud to play with. Unless you leveled him to like level 70, and then it would still be a challenge.

Duh Chaos, I actually never got that one, the same with Gold Chocobos, I could never get either despite doing everything correctly on many, many occasions.

Yeah, Gold Chocobos are a bitch to get... I'm not sure what 'Duh Chaos' is supposed to tell me, so I wont respond to that bit. (that wasn't a flame statement, don't get pissy)

Stop trying to blurt random knowledge, also no.

Hey, there was a Leatherface style limit for Vincent, I know that.

If you cannot take the character into consideration don't bother. He was a complete emo in the game, he was not bad ass in any way, he acted like it though from his story you could tell he was not.

But the problem with that is, he was. He survived direct contact with the life-stream, he struck Sephiroth a powerful blow in Nibelheim (and the observant will remember Cloud was lvl 1 and Sephiroth was lvl 50, and had almost all magic Materia).

Shadow was one of the best characters from FF6, I would have used him if I was aware you could save him, his moves with Interceptor dealt very large dammage for his level.

Maybe so, but for what he was, I didn't find he fit into my party on many occasions. I'm not saying I hated him, but he was my least used character.

Cecil was a bad ass, he just used the Paladin as a cover for mass slaughter, we all know it, all Paladins are like that.

I'm glad we agree on that. If I had FFXI I would have Paladin and Dark Knight as my classes, just because they were Cecil's professions. Bear in mind I know little about the Jobs on FF XI, but they could compliment eachother quite nicely.

At 3/31/08 04:10 PM, Deadly-Shadow wrote:

:Wakka from Final Fantasy X

No way. If you could increase his stats a lot, he could do 9999 damage on most creatures (except flans. I dealt like 3600+ damage, though.), and he's good at eliminating bosses' henchmen (you know, those enemies that endlessly pop up to aid the boss?), or at dealing the finishing blow (I mean, 80+ strength, and 100+ accuracy?). But I don't recommend including him in major boss fights (use him as a last resort).

About Kimahri, the only use he has is his Overdrives (White Wind and Mighty Guard are very useful), and his piercing ability.