Why America sucks, the facts.

[Epica]

This isn't a trolling thread, this is cold, hard truth, and it's about time you listened to it.

Why do you guys brag about your money and your military so much?

There's only an 8 grand a year difference in per capita GDP, the vast majority of which goes to the top 0.01% of your population so it doesn't even really matter combined with the fact that it can only be maintained by working 2-3 times as much a week than we do, retiring 10-15 years later, and just ending up with high blood pressure and an ulcer in the end.

And secondly there's your military, in which case let's just recap your history.

1.Revolutionary war- Were getting assses kicked until French started supporting you
2.War of 1812-Canadians burned down your whitehouse.
3.Spanish-American War- I supposes getting guam must have been an accomplishment for you.
4.Philippine-American War-Lost
5.First World War-didn't get involved until at least 4/5 of the casualties had been taken.
6.American North Russia Expeditionary Force-only 5,000 troops, still lost though.
7.Second World War-see first world war, combined with the fact the Japanese built themselves up with your oil.
8.Korean War-try to walk over the 38th parallel.
9.Vietnam War-French controlled the whole country for 140 years, you barely manage half for 10.
10.Beirut-lost
11.First gulf war-Inso much as you were actually smart enough to pull out.
12.Somalia- Hey we're invincible fucking rangers.
13.Second gulf war- just starts pointing and laughing.

So yeah, nothing really there either.

America made their money by mass production. Mass production is becoming increasingly hard due to lack of oil, hence the reason the dollar is rapidly becoming worthless.

As for the military, see op's list of fail, combined with the fact that the U.S. military is primarily staffed by 18-19 year old kids that are so fucked up they couldn't hold a job at McDonald's. So yeah I'm not worried about that either.

[blamninja1]

That's why we invented Micheal Moore!

[Edd360]

This thread needs more Cellardoor6

[Jin]

And every other country has no bad record ever, and has never faced an economy fall.

Great thinking.

[KingPaulP]

This a blatant flamebait thread, but I would also like to add the Bay of Pigs to that list, i mean seriously its Cuba.

[Epica]

You Americans would be speaking German if it wasn't for Russia and us. Hell, the world would be speaking German. In fact if I remember correctly Hitler saw the British as equals, and if we would have joined him you would have been screwed. At least we know that if we would have changed sides we would have made a difference to the war.

You would be speaking French/Spanish if it wasn't for us Brits capturing the land, you now call USA, first. It was All thanks to our empire that you talk English now.

I think you owe us for so much we have done for you in history, and you repay our kindness by starting a war with us (Independence?) and then joining 5 years late to other wars then claiming that you where the ones that won them. America didn't even get into Berlin for Christs sake (All thanks to the Russians who surrounded Berlin).

If you tried waring with anyone developed country now, we all know that you would have your arses kicked. Your military is large, but it's just a huge collection of fail.

At least we could have taken over most of the world at one point in our history(and we did almost do it, 25% of the Earth, full control over the oceans), you have never been able to do that.

[yurgenburgen]

At 3/28/08 12:16 PM, Epica wrote: In fact if I remember correctly Hitler saw the British as equals, and if we would have joined him you would have been screwed.

Well, I'm seriously glad Britain didn't join Nazi Germany for obvious reasons.

[Joshiwa]

OMG troll has seen through the fog and into the clear truth!

I mean I am American but by all of those facts I just can't stand being from a different country than you, please oh please can I join your country club now?

[Takeshima]

oh shi-

in b4 atom bombs.

[Sistine1408]

At 3/28/08 12:10 PM, Epica wrote:

There's only an 8 grand a year difference in per capita GDP, the vast majority of which goes to the top 0.01% of your population so it doesn't even really matter combined with the fact that it can only be maintained by working 2-3 times as much a week than we do, retiring 10-15 years later, and just ending up with high blood pressure and an ulcer in the end.

Ah, you raise a great point, but here's the difference:

Great Britain--where you live, according to your profile--is populated by about sixty million people.

The US is populated by about THREE HUNDRED MILLION people.

So, assuming the amount you guys make to be x, and the amount we make to be x+8 (when using the 8 grand difference you pointed out), you can certainly point out that we don't have much more wealth PER PERSON. However, for the equation to actually be true, and thus to show how much we actaully have, it would be more like 5(x+8), becaue we literally have FIVE TIMES THE POPULATION.

However, you are, for the most part, correct about the ulcers and high blood pressure.

[SugarQmuffin69]

china will have better living condition then america in 2012... ya were fucked..

[smulse]

While I may agree, Britain is full of chavs, asians and old people. We don't have much room to talk.

[Adio]

America sucks, thats why I'm british now.

[McPaper]

None of you people have served your countries in the slightest. Why do you honestly care?

[Britkid]

I don't think it was a matter of 'joining Germany', more a peace which would let them keep France and persist in their war against Russia. However, having said that, Rudolf Hess once pinched a plane to fly to Scotland in order to beg Churchill to 'share the world with Hitler'.

Americans (some) always talk about their vast contribution in terms of numbers with regards to the later part of the war, but if this island had fallen or accepted peace with Germany, then there probably would not have been a D-Day.

[simple-but-sandy]

I think I hear cellardoor6 preparing a billion links to irrelevent articles...

[BrianEtrius]

And people are just finding this out now?
Of course America's a flawed country, but then again, who is?

[zoolrule]

Weak, Epica, weak.
Read what you just wrote, then punch yourself in the face, thanks

[Victory]

At 3/28/08 12:42 PM, BrianEtrius wrote: Of course America's a flawed country, but then again, who is?

America, like you've just said.

[H-A-X-O-R-Z]

Thank god someone told them whats what.

[Zzwick]

America + Britain = <3
If only it were true.

[BrianEtrius]

At 3/28/08 12:45 PM, Victory wrote:

At 3/28/08 12:42 PM, BrianEtrius wrote: Of course America's a flawed country, but then again, who is?

America, like you've just said.

Whoops, meant who isn't.

[SpikeAlpha]

You know what would make this thread even better? Start telling more about all the greater things Britain has done, especially in comparison. Keep stating on side is far better then the other, cause thats the only way I see origonality.

Oh yeah, arguing and pointing out facts really makes you look cool and intelligent. I bet you put your whole heart into this.

[Sistine1408]

At 3/28/08 12:16 PM, Epica wrote: You Americans would be speaking German if it wasn't for Russia and us. Hell, the world would be speaking German. In fact if I remember correctly Hitler saw the British as equals, and if we would have joined him you would have been screwed. At least we know that if we would have changed sides we would have made a difference to the war.

Okay...

Quit it with the hypotheticals. You couldn't have possibly joined Hitler because you and France had your asses stuck in the League of Nations. If I remember correctly, it was you pussies who politely asked Hitler to stop invading other European countries for his "elbow room" as it could be called by modern standards, and who just appeased him instead of taking action for the longest time.

And, for the record, I have no doubt that the US would've won the war on it's own without Britain. But that's just my opinion, let's not bring that into account.

You would be speaking French/Spanish if it wasn't for us Brits capturing the land, you now call USA, first. It was All thanks to our empire that you talk English now.

Again, irrellevant. I eve the most alternate dimensions possible, you guys would never allow France or Spain to beat you to the New World that badly...I mean, come on, you guys were fuckin' obssessed with being the best empire!

I think you owe us for so much we have done for you in history, and you repay our kindness by starting a war with us (Independence?) and then joining 5 years late to other wars then claiming that you where the ones that won them. America didn't even get into Berlin for Christs sake (All thanks to the Russians who surrounded Berlin).

Well, at least we were actually good enough territory to defend. As I recall, you guys were abandoned in 410 by our mother country, Rome! And at least we didn't take almost 1000 years to become a world power--I recall us doin it in about a third of that.

Countries will always vie for independence, and colonies will never last long. Don't even try that.

At least we could have taken over most of the world at one point in our history(and we did almost do it, 25% of the Earth, full control over the oceans), you have never been able to do that.

RIght, so your saying that in 400 years, we couldn't accomplish what took you guys nearly 1500? Big surprise there.

[DiscoManDude]

You guys take the interwebs to seriously.

Let's ask, OP, do you have a degree in this nature of subject? Doubt it.

Do you matter to anyone in the USA? No.

[steph2568]

So in your own opinion, you think america sucks but in actuallity every country has its own share af problems. You say America sucks for all the reasons you put, but i say Cuba sucks because of what Fidel Castro has done when he was still dictator.

[AbstractPathologist]

Wow, I see we have a lot of Kool-Aid drinkers in this thread. Seriously, stop drinking it, and then you can be happy and positive, instead of angry and negative spewing the "America sucks!!!" or "I hate America!!!" crap.

[Stomer]

This is Epica by the way, I was using my alt from 03. Wierd, I use my 07 account as my main account, anyways, America couldn't take on any developed country, they will probably try to take on China to clear their national debt and try to drag themselves out of a all consuming economic depression in the future.

In which case, America started the war and would receive no backing from the UN. Your only possible ally is us Brits, which also means Canada, as Canada is under our control and their armed forces are under control of our Queen, but we wont help, since you attacked first.

Active troops:

China: 2,255 000
European Union: 2,155 000
Russia: 1,037 000

vs.

USA: 1,380 000

and Russia has more nukes than America, both Britain and China have 200, well, so they say. The real number is probably much larger.

[daves234]

so u don't care about 9/11

[Onepiece285]

well hoo-rah.