Flash's 2 Part Response Letter.
At 7/27/12 09:49 PM, Lizzardis wrote:
Maybe it's about time that the NGPD was laid to rest. I mean, as it stands, it's roughly over 1,000 pages if you count the old thread (Correct me if I'm wrong) and clubs do tend to die out every now and again. I mean look at the NGDD. At one point, it was a swarming community... Now... Newer users wouldn't have even heard of it.
NGDD tried a revival, but collapsed. To little users and just not having organization is what killed it. We are unlike them since we actually have a damn clue on whats going on and whats the purpose we have here.
I've had my time in this club. I've got my fond memories, and throughout it all, Tails was a user who kept it all together and was the blatant backbone to the structure of the club, and while yes, he could be replaced... Tails has shaped and formed this club in a time where the NG BBS in itself was a thriving community. Whereas now... It isn't. It will be extremely hard to bring back this club to the level that it once was in it's past days.
Tails is going to be near impossible to replace. Very few members can even live up to the rep Tails has going. If Tails go, I really can't see this place floating for long. Can someone lead? Yeah, but not to Tails standards.
The question is... Is there any point in trying all that?
Ah but here we are Lizz, fighting to survive. Admitting defeat now is an option, swallow our pride and put it to rest. But you can't bring a good man down, not like this anyway. Some might call it in while others will sit by this places death bed.
Now I'm not trying to be a pessimist here... All I'm saying is that... This club was going to die out one day for numerous reasons, and.... The potential isn't actually there any more. There's only a handful of users who actually post here any more. A roster hasn't been made in months, and.... Well... Life goes on.
There's to many cracks on the ship. Can they be fixed? No, but they can be covered. The loss of interest or just IRL is bound to arise in any user. It makes things...natural.
It is such a shame for the club to have to die, but wouldn't you rather let an old dog die with your memories and times that once where, than trying to force it to learn new tricks in order to try and make it what it once was? Because, I'm sorry guys... But it isn't going to happen.
Everything good comes to a end. Even the NG Mafia is struggling to remain alive these days. I heard those guys were actually seriously popular, or at least productive, back in the day.
I've supported this club for years now and have even been involved in numerous key decisions, hell, I was the roster manager for a long while, so in my personal opinion... Say your goodbyes and let the thread move on. The posts will still be there, and the memories will still be here, but the chances of making new ones are very slim.
Heh, I remember those days Lizz. Making me feel a little old there. I can say good bye to this place, right now if needed in fact. If there is anyone going to try to revive it, I will tag along. At least then, we can say we died trying rather then sitting around waiting for death to grab us.
But hey... This is just me. Uncle Lizz popping in, once in every blue moon.
Howdy Lizzy! Where the bloody hell have you been? Also, I recall you being a Dr.House fan. Thoughts about the finale?
At 7/27/12 08:36 PM, Viper50 wrote:
i guess id like to join ._.
Holy shit, a new applicant! I might not be the boss here, as you can see leadership status here is rocky, but you seem to be in order. You got the badge, the required post. Now, I will not lie that you got some silly one liners but hell it tends to happen. May I make a suggestion? Stay away from General, since most of the topics there are nonproductive. I would take you but the decision does not rest with me.
At 7/27/12 11:39 PM, ilikeblamingcrap wrote:
At 7/27/12 09:49 PM, Lizzardis wrote:
stuffI think we've all felt this but where to afraid to say it. The NGPD is ACTUALLY DEAD now along with the rest of Newgrounds all together to be honest. I certainly can't help but to blame myself as it was my shitty idea of a chat and allowing certain people who weren't members in it. With the horrifying death of said chat that caused the mods b&hammers to come millimeters of our noses we all got disheartened making us lose interest and it led to our inevitable downfall.
I put my two cents in the past about this. PM'ing was slower, but safer. The chat imploding on its self I think didn't scare anyone off, I for one figured the chat would bring issues. The downfall came because administration issues were the fucking problem on the chat. Stabbing your own comrades. Then, as we remember, some of us let the issue taint this very thread. It was all in the past, just bringing this up because I feel the chat wasn't the reason for this place falling apart.
Which is why we can't let it die. We need to come back from this stronger than ever this time. Our job was to blam and protect and as God as my witness I won't stop until we've wiped every piece of shit from this great website forever together like we said we would. We need to be ruthless about this and we need to FORCE ourselves to do so. I've done it before and as you can see I didn't push hard enough.
"At least [we] are doing something to help Newgrounds, even if it is a tiny bit. We may be only taking baby steps, but at least they're baby steps in the right direction. NGPD isn't about what we're doing, or what impact we're having, it's about what we're standing for: a perfect Newgrounds. This will never be achieved. The spammers, flamers and trolls will always be one step ahead of us, just like real life. No matter what measures we take, the world will still be full of hatred, war and crime, and that's one of the facts of life. But even if we get one abusive flash deleted, we'll have done something."
I can't believe the NGPD HQ site is still up. Anyway, reading you little stance reminded me of this. I remember reading this when I joined, mind you this is almost around two years ago. Keeping shit out of this site will be near impossible. We can help, but not wipe it from existence. I do not want to kill the flame you got going, I'm just being rational like Insan. We can die fighting and that is the best we can offer.
I'll admit before I began typing all of this, I was about to agree and let us die. But then I went to the portal and saw what is in the picture below. The sudden fast rage that filled me helped me remember that it is our job to eradicate it. So we will. We will get back on our feet. I refuse to let us die this time. Maybe we'll die some day but that day is not today. We'll finish the flash and we'll get back on our feet stronger than ever this time. And this will only happen if we work to make it happen.
Still hung up on that Flash huh? You know, I hope you pull it off. Why? I want to see someone break that curse of the failed Flash project. We only get as far as just brain storming.