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At 7/27/12 01:55 PM, 34Deadman wrote:

At 7/26/12 11:36 AM, ilikeblamingcrap wrote:

At 7/25/12 10:31 PM, Narcissy wrote: Here's a suggestion. Rather than just trying to butt heads with the buttheads here to formulate a decision, why not act out and send messages asking the ones who had friends here, did work, and who scramble around these parts trying to get the group going

Chances are the inactive ones probably don't even realize how inactive they're helping making the group.

This. I really don't think we should do something as drastic as getting a new commissioner just because we aren't as active as we used to be.

This might be the case, but we still need a damn Co Ops. Prower has dropped off the face of the planet. I wouldn't mind delaying finding a new commish, but there needs to be somebody who has authority for second in charge around here. Unless, he is planning a return.

This, this, all my +1.

If we could actually get in contact with Prower, that would be great, but I think Tail's tried months ago and heard nothing. A Unit Ops is becoming a priority to keep this place in shape.

We can't speak for Tails, saying that things will return to business as usual, but hey, maybe there's a chance that if things pick up between us normal users, then Tail's will have motivation to come back. I know that's what happened to me when I saw a random spike of activity.

At 7/27/12 02:57 PM, Gamewiz wrote:

At 7/27/12 01:55 PM, 34Deadman wrote:

At 7/26/12 11:36 AM, ilikeblamingcrap wrote:

At 7/25/12 10:31 PM, Narcissy wrote: Stuff

I know what you guys are saying and I think we should start doing more to get this places activity up. I suggest maybe making so sort of newspost adverts of sorts. I'll put one up in abit.

At 7/27/12 06:13 PM, Decky wrote:

At 7/27/12 02:57 PM, Gamewiz wrote:

At 7/27/12 01:55 PM, 34Deadman wrote:

At 7/26/12 11:36 AM, ilikeblamingcrap wrote:

At 7/25/12 10:31 PM, Narcissy wrote: Stuff

I know what you guys are saying and I think we should start doing more to get this places activity up. I suggest maybe making so sort of newspost adverts of sorts. I'll put one up in abit.

I'm going to look back for the last roster and start sending people PMs. I'll tell 'em to post here in the thread if we should keep them as a member. If they don't post in a week then I guess we count them as gone. I'll also come up with something to say in a newspost about the NGPD.

hi
i guess id like to join ._.

Maybe it's about time that the NGPD was laid to rest. I mean, as it stands, it's roughly over 1,000 pages if you count the old thread (Correct me if I'm wrong) and clubs do tend to die out every now and again. I mean look at the NGDD. At one point, it was a swarming community... Now... Newer users wouldn't have even heard of it.

I've had my time in this club. I've got my fond memories, and throughout it all, Tails was a user who kept it all together and was the blatant backbone to the structure of the club, and while yes, he could be replaced... Tails has shaped and formed this club in a time where the NG BBS in itself was a thriving community. Whereas now... It isn't. It will be extremely hard to bring back this club to the level that it once was in it's past days.

The question is... Is there any point in trying all that?

Now I'm not trying to be a pessimist here... All I'm saying is that... This club was going to die out one day for numerous reasons, and.... The potential isn't actually there any more. There's only a handful of users who actually post here any more. A roster hasn't been made in months, and.... Well... Life goes on.

It is such a shame for the club to have to die, but wouldn't you rather let an old dog die with your memories and times that once where, than trying to force it to learn new tricks in order to try and make it what it once was? Because, I'm sorry guys... But it isn't going to happen.

I've supported this club for years now and have even been involved in numerous key decisions, hell, I was the roster manager for a long while, so in my personal opinion... Say your goodbyes and let the thread move on. The posts will still be there, and the memories will still be here, but the chances of making new ones are very slim.

But hey... This is just me. Uncle Lizz popping in, once in every blue moon.

At 7/27/12 09:49 PM, Lizzardis wrote: stuff

I think we've all felt this but where to afraid to say it. The NGPD is ACTUALLY DEAD now along with the rest of Newgrounds all together to be honest. I certainly can't help but to blame myself as it was my shitty idea of a chat and allowing certain people who weren't members in it. With the horrifying death of said chat that caused the mods b&hammers to come millimeters of our noses we all got disheartened making us lose interest and it led to our inevitable downfall.

Which is why we can't let it die. We need to come back from this stronger than ever this time. Our job was to blam and protect and as God as my witness I won't stop until we've wiped every piece of shit from this great website forever together like we said we would. We need to be ruthless about this and we need to FORCE ourselves to do so. I've done it before and as you can see I didn't push hard enough.

I'll admit before I began typing all of this, I was about to agree and let us die. But then I went to the portal and saw what is in the picture below. The sudden fast rage that filled me helped me remember that it is our job to eradicate it. So we will. We will get back on our feet. I refuse to let us die this time. Maybe we'll die some day but that day is not today. We'll finish the flash and we'll get back on our feet stronger than ever this time. And this will only happen if we work to make it happen.

And hai, Lizzy.

Flash's 2 Part Response Letter.

At 7/27/12 09:49 PM, Lizzardis wrote: Maybe it's about time that the NGPD was laid to rest. I mean, as it stands, it's roughly over 1,000 pages if you count the old thread (Correct me if I'm wrong) and clubs do tend to die out every now and again. I mean look at the NGDD. At one point, it was a swarming community... Now... Newer users wouldn't have even heard of it.

NGDD tried a revival, but collapsed. To little users and just not having organization is what killed it. We are unlike them since we actually have a damn clue on whats going on and whats the purpose we have here.

I've had my time in this club. I've got my fond memories, and throughout it all, Tails was a user who kept it all together and was the blatant backbone to the structure of the club, and while yes, he could be replaced... Tails has shaped and formed this club in a time where the NG BBS in itself was a thriving community. Whereas now... It isn't. It will be extremely hard to bring back this club to the level that it once was in it's past days.

Tails is going to be near impossible to replace. Very few members can even live up to the rep Tails has going. If Tails go, I really can't see this place floating for long. Can someone lead? Yeah, but not to Tails standards.

The question is... Is there any point in trying all that?

Ah but here we are Lizz, fighting to survive. Admitting defeat now is an option, swallow our pride and put it to rest. But you can't bring a good man down, not like this anyway. Some might call it in while others will sit by this places death bed.

Now I'm not trying to be a pessimist here... All I'm saying is that... This club was going to die out one day for numerous reasons, and.... The potential isn't actually there any more. There's only a handful of users who actually post here any more. A roster hasn't been made in months, and.... Well... Life goes on.

There's to many cracks on the ship. Can they be fixed? No, but they can be covered. The loss of interest or just IRL is bound to arise in any user. It makes things...natural.

It is such a shame for the club to have to die, but wouldn't you rather let an old dog die with your memories and times that once where, than trying to force it to learn new tricks in order to try and make it what it once was? Because, I'm sorry guys... But it isn't going to happen.

Everything good comes to a end. Even the NG Mafia is struggling to remain alive these days. I heard those guys were actually seriously popular, or at least productive, back in the day.

I've supported this club for years now and have even been involved in numerous key decisions, hell, I was the roster manager for a long while, so in my personal opinion... Say your goodbyes and let the thread move on. The posts will still be there, and the memories will still be here, but the chances of making new ones are very slim.

Heh, I remember those days Lizz. Making me feel a little old there. I can say good bye to this place, right now if needed in fact. If there is anyone going to try to revive it, I will tag along. At least then, we can say we died trying rather then sitting around waiting for death to grab us.

But hey... This is just me. Uncle Lizz popping in, once in every blue moon.

Howdy Lizzy! Where the bloody hell have you been? Also, I recall you being a Dr.House fan. Thoughts about the finale?

At 7/27/12 08:36 PM, Viper50 wrote: hi
i guess id like to join ._.

Holy shit, a new applicant! I might not be the boss here, as you can see leadership status here is rocky, but you seem to be in order. You got the badge, the required post. Now, I will not lie that you got some silly one liners but hell it tends to happen. May I make a suggestion? Stay away from General, since most of the topics there are nonproductive. I would take you but the decision does not rest with me.

At 7/27/12 11:39 PM, ilikeblamingcrap wrote:

At 7/27/12 09:49 PM, Lizzardis wrote: stuff

I think we've all felt this but where to afraid to say it. The NGPD is ACTUALLY DEAD now along with the rest of Newgrounds all together to be honest. I certainly can't help but to blame myself as it was my shitty idea of a chat and allowing certain people who weren't members in it. With the horrifying death of said chat that caused the mods b&hammers to come millimeters of our noses we all got disheartened making us lose interest and it led to our inevitable downfall.

I put my two cents in the past about this. PM'ing was slower, but safer. The chat imploding on its self I think didn't scare anyone off, I for one figured the chat would bring issues. The downfall came because administration issues were the fucking problem on the chat. Stabbing your own comrades. Then, as we remember, some of us let the issue taint this very thread. It was all in the past, just bringing this up because I feel the chat wasn't the reason for this place falling apart.

Which is why we can't let it die. We need to come back from this stronger than ever this time. Our job was to blam and protect and as God as my witness I won't stop until we've wiped every piece of shit from this great website forever together like we said we would. We need to be ruthless about this and we need to FORCE ourselves to do so. I've done it before and as you can see I didn't push hard enough.

"At least [we] are doing something to help Newgrounds, even if it is a tiny bit. We may be only taking baby steps, but at least they're baby steps in the right direction. NGPD isn't about what we're doing, or what impact we're having, it's about what we're standing for: a perfect Newgrounds. This will never be achieved. The spammers, flamers and trolls will always be one step ahead of us, just like real life. No matter what measures we take, the world will still be full of hatred, war and crime, and that's one of the facts of life. But even if we get one abusive flash deleted, we'll have done something."

- Insanimation
I can't believe the NGPD HQ site is still up. Anyway, reading you little stance reminded me of this. I remember reading this when I joined, mind you this is almost around two years ago. Keeping shit out of this site will be near impossible. We can help, but not wipe it from existence. I do not want to kill the flame you got going, I'm just being rational like Insan. We can die fighting and that is the best we can offer.

I'll admit before I began typing all of this, I was about to agree and let us die. But then I went to the portal and saw what is in the picture below. The sudden fast rage that filled me helped me remember that it is our job to eradicate it. So we will. We will get back on our feet. I refuse to let us die this time. Maybe we'll die some day but that day is not today. We'll finish the flash and we'll get back on our feet stronger than ever this time. And this will only happen if we work to make it happen.

Still hung up on that Flash huh? You know, I hope you pull it off. Why? I want to see someone break that curse of the failed Flash project. We only get as far as just brain storming.

At 7/27/12 06:16 PM, Narcissy wrote:

At 7/27/12 01:55 PM, 34Deadman wrote: This might be the case, but we still need a damn Co Ops. Prower has dropped off the face of the planet. I wouldn't mind delaying finding a new commish, but there needs to be somebody who has authority for second in charge around here. Unless, he is planning a return.

History has shown and will continue to show that if a leader is faulting on their duty, then it's up to the people to elect a new leader. If the people are unwilling to act, the whole nation falls.

People are panicky and unsure. A person is cunning and calm. If we have an election, it won't go anywhere due to all active members wanting to become in charge. More along the lines, we will eat each other alive before we get anywhere.

This, of course, is nowhere near as drastic as a nation and its leader, but the principal is the same. I would request that we, the left overs of the active, act as the club's people. It may not be standard procedure around here, but this isn't a standard time. This is a desperate time.

Drastic time? You don't say? Throwing sarcasm aside, we need to figure out a plan because we aren't going to make progress by sticking around and talking of what we will do.

From what I can see, you are waiting for your leader to act and your leader is waiting for you. This is a circle. I suggest we elect a new officer. Your decision should be held down to what you believe is right. Not most experienced, not who you like the most. Someone you believe has the true potential to take this dying club, gather its members, and bring it back to life.

Who do I think has the capability of grabbing this club and bring it to a decent form? Either Decky, Me, or Gamewiz. We will stick out a storm.

It's time to stop piddling. It's time to stop waiting for the club to hope back up, making guesses, complaining, and waiting for your reluctant leader. If you want this club to stand back up, you have to act. You have to take that initiative. It won't do it itself. Back when Soup Squad had a total of three members, if I had waited for Little-Rena to act or wait for the group to show a spark of life, I would have waited until its death-bed. Instead, I decided to make the group grow and it's at least five times its size and probably the only active flash crew on Newgrounds.

I think the hold up is that we want to see if Tails has, at least, a second in command in mind. Can we just elect our own? Sure, but I think we have grown used to the routine of Tails having a plan. The one time he doesn't have a plan is when we start losing our marbles...which is happening as we speak.

Point is, if you want this club to raise back up, you have to do it. You must decide as an individual that you want this group to grow. This group is a team, yes. But this team is full of single persons. You, as a single, must decide to bring it back to life. Even if you're all alone, treat it as if it's alive and full.

Hah, Decky and I were chatting to each other when this place was really dead. As for a individual taking over, there's about three guys offering(including myself).

I am curious Narc, who can you see leading this place? You can say yourself for all I damn care. I just want an idea from you. As for a leader, I take we should take it to the PF and....fuck it. Something like this can't be discussed in a separate forum that has few active users. I believe we will have a better response here. We don't have time to dick around guys, we got a club to save.

At 7/27/12 08:36 PM, Viper50 wrote: hi
i guess id like to join ._.

Since Tail's was here but didn't even take to checking into your application, I'll have a quick check over for ya :)

Badge: Check!
Post Count: Check!
Post Quality: I'd say below average. Though I can see that you're able to give a well thought out post they aren't quite as often as I'd like to see. Grammar isn't to perfection either, but hell. I wasn't nearly up to snuff in my early days :P

I'm willing to (unofficially) give you an OK for apprenticeship. Apprenticeship is a week long trial period where we judge your activity and contribution to us here at the NGPD. At the end of the week all active members vote to decide whether or not you should become a permanent member. I'm sure you will (would) do fine considering how pretty much any on topic activity is positive at our current state.

Moving on

Guys, look at us. As we're speaking we're slowly bringing this place back. We've even attracted a new applicant! This is all very good news. Like Deadman said, the 3 people I'd say who are most fit to lead the group (Aside from our beloved, but unfortunately retiring, Tails </3) I'd say are Decky, Deadman, and myself. But unless we change the rules around... Decky is over qualified due to badge ranking. Any input for a decision from whoever reads this is greatly appreciated.

We need to keep the conversation and I guess voting here on Newgrounds. I don't even 100% know how to even log into the new PF, plus it's dead there anyway. The fact that we at least have SOME people here is reason enough to not move any part of the conversation to another forum. We can't fuck around, these are desperate times, and we're finally making some forward progress.

ILBC- PM me if you need ANY help with that Flash. I have some animation skills, and I'm totally willing to lend my voice. Let's get this thing off the ground and break that curse.

At 7/28/12 01:27 AM, TailsPrower wrote: I suppose if we put this crew into hibernation mode until the whistle system gets back online, we could save this. We can't even do what we're meant to do here without being able to flag shit.

Tails, putting this place into hibernation right now, will only kill it. Things are tough now. But we're the Newgrounds MOTHERFUCKING police department. We must persevere. Everyone, just keep a tab open with a blank PM to Wade while patrolling the portal. In the event that we (inevitably) come across an abusive submission, we can just simply copy the link and type up a reason there.

There's a time for everything good to die. But for the NGPD, that time isn't now. Let's get to work men.

It would be absurd to even suggest that a member of the EGB run the NGPD. The whole point of the NGPD is that everyone is the same, and that people are all in the lower B/P ranks, if an EGB member takes time out of their day to run the NGPD... Well you may as well just join together the EGB and NGPD, which is a possibility, however slim it might be.

Well this place sure did get a lot of post since I was last online, even if they were about how inactive it usually is. Anyway, I don't think that we should let this place die and as for the leader situation I don't think that at the moment one is strictly needed. If we get new applicants (which I see my newspost got us at least one) we can just have a joint decision on here or via PMs.

At 7/28/12 03:38 AM, Gamewiz wrote: Since Tail's was here but didn't even take to checking into your application, I'll have a quick check over for ya :)

Badge: Check!
Post Count: Check!
Post Quality: I'd say below average. Though I can see that you're able to give a well thought out post they aren't quite as often as I'd like to see. Grammar isn't to perfection either, but hell. I wasn't nearly up to snuff in my early days :P

Yeah i know my grammar and post quality aren't as great as I would like them to be...

I'm willing to (unofficially) give you an OK for apprenticeship. Apprenticeship is a week long trial period where we judge your activity and contribution to us here at the NGPD. At the end of the week all active members vote to decide whether or not you should become a permanent member. I'm sure you will (would) do fine considering how pretty much any on topic activity is positive at our current state.

Well i'll see if i can be more active than i have been lately. Granted I AM on here pretty much all day everyday, but I still don't post anything or comment anywhere all that often...

At 7/28/12 01:59 PM, TailsPrower wrote:

At 7/28/12 03:38 AM, Gamewiz wrote: Tails, putting this place into hibernation right now, will only kill it. Things are tough now. But we're the Newgrounds MOTHERFUCKING police department. We must persevere. Everyone, just keep a tab open with a blank PM to Wade while patrolling the portal. In the event that we (inevitably) come across an abusive submission, we can just simply copy the link and type up a reason there.

There's a time for everything good to die. But for the NGPD, that time isn't now. Let's get to work men.

You haven't explained why this course of action would effectively kill the crew. Last I checked, nobody was b/p'ing so that really leaves reporting abusive submissions as our remaining venue of operations - which nobody is doing either since the whistle system is currently down. What are we left with? Idle banter? Nostalgia talks like what the Mafia's doing? I'd rather let this place go into slumber than force-feeding it empty calories. It might kill the NGPD, it might not.

The real question is how it wouldn't let it die. Lets face it, if we just abandon ship until the whistle system comes back, many will just simply forget about this place. Not to mention how we'll have to start off of these current conversations right back from square one. Take a head count...Again, ect ect.

Maybe hibernation wouldn't kill us, but it would sure set back what we've started, and make it quite difficult to try to revive. As far as I personally see it, saying that we're going into a hibernation state is essentially saying that we're going into a coma, only we may never bring it back to life. Essentially putting it's death bed temporarily on hold.

34Deadman wrote: Stuff

Well, in all honesty, every commissioner and Unit OPs weve had has done their job with accuracy. Tails has the record for the longest active membership, as far as i know. Ive been Commissioner here before, its not a hard job if you know how to herd when you need to, lead when you need to, and give freedom and leniency if you need to.

If i may, i nominate Narcissy as a candidate for stand in Commissioner if Tails really is absent.

Closing the place isnt exactly the best idea, as the EGB would need to be reworked, which would basically make them a clone NGDD. So, for EGB and NGDD to be seperate, the NGPD needs to continue to be the place for the Police Ranks.

I made a newspost the other day, if I need to add or change anything to it just let me know. Otherwise, feel free to show it around or make your own :3

Also, Angel, unfortunately narc is already at private rank (or higher?) and is over qualified for the job of Commish.. Plus, and I don't want to seem like I'm putting him down like he can't do it but.. He's already got his hands full keeping the Soup Squad in line ;P.

I am now dictator perpetuo. Suck it.

Senatus Populusque Terranovus

This sounds great, I would love to be in this group.

At 8/2/12 09:36 PM, razem wrote: This sounds great, I would love to be in this group.

You clearly haven't read what is required to apply to this club. Firstly you need to have between a combined save and blams total of 400 - 2499, which you don't have. Also you need at least 50 forum posts, which you just about have and also need a decent post quality, which you simply don't have. All of your post are no longer then a single line long. So basically it's a no.

At 8/7/12 12:32 AM, Spretznaz wrote: hint: he was lynched.

Though this is true it was a long time coming. I had to retreat to an attic as groups of death squads roamed the streets looking for pockets of resistance. Luckily I found solace in writing a journal of the events, a kind of diary if you will. I would whittle away the early hours franticly filling this book with the more trivial, light-hearted aspects of a day in a confined space.

Sadly they came to get me one day and I was hurried away to a secluded area where I was made to work for the Clock Crew, making crappy flashes under the name FrankClock.

I was released a few years later but let us never forget the horrors of those events and the pure evil that is SpiffyMasta. May we never see him again.

I joke of course.

Can I be on the force?

At 8/7/12 06:22 PM, TailsPrower wrote:

At 8/7/12 05:41 PM, dragoswrath wrote: Can I be on the force?

I see you've shown up with a police badge, and you've got the post count, but I already knew what my answer was before I checked your post history. Sorry, this crew doesn't need spammers.

I've only spammed once (I was intensely bored) . But if this is because of my thing against bronies, I totally understand.