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At 6/16/09 05:49 PM, XtremeofParanoia wrote: Apparently, Famoustars333 produced "Cold" by Crossfade.

Jesus christ, what the fuck is wrong with people today!? That's the third obviously stolen video clip in an hour!

Stupid summer...!


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At 6/16/09 05:54 PM, Sheizenhammer wrote: Jesus christ, what the fuck is wrong with people today!? That's the third obviously stolen video clip in an hour!

Stupid summer...!

Heh, it seems to be getting worse now that it's summer.


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Goddammit!

I am reminded of Slash's post on why this is our (read: everyone's) fault. Personally, I don't see how this could really have been stopped, since all of the 30+ spam reviews that caused the stolen award were left in the space of half an hour, right before the new awards were chosen. Had there been more constructive yet low-scoring reviews, they would've simply made more spam reviews to drown them out of the overall score, so the logic doesn't really work here.

Oh well... free whistle points on the spam reviews anyway. ;)


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At 6/17/09 12:16 AM, Sheizenhammer wrote: Oh well... free whistle points on the spam reviews anyway. ;)

EDIT: they're all gone now.

Seriously: I must've flagged about 80 fucking reviews today (all of which are now gone), along with 3 stolen submissions. I'm glad it's over.

....Well.... actually.... I'm a little more than glad it's over (and that I stayed up this late). In all the DD review chaos, I... kinda... made the most out of a shitty situation.

:D

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At 6/17/09 01:05 AM, Sheizenhammer wrote: ....Well.... actually.... I'm a little more than glad it's over (and that I stayed up this late). In all the DD review chaos, I... kinda... made the most out of a shitty situation.

Well fuck me down my urethra and call me Little Sally Sue The Amputee, you got that pretty fast! Which whistle did you have earlier today?

I can't believe I missed all the spam. sad faic :(

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At 6/17/09 01:36 AM, Spartan204 wrote: Well fuck me down my urethra and call me Little Sally Sue The Amputee,

Careful what you wish for. :P

you got that pretty fast! Which whistle did you have earlier today?

It was on gold for like the last month or so. I don't really remember exactly how long.

I can't believe I missed all the spam. sad faic :(

Well, that's what you get for screwing off on award day. ;)
Then again, it'll likely take Wade a couple of days to delete all of the spam/alt accounts, during which time the DD flashes posted with them will no doubt generate a shitload of butthurt among the review base, so you've probably not missed it entirely yet.


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At 6/16/09 05:37 PM, Sheizenhammer wrote: Which link would you use for it? The oldest one you can find, or just any that show the video in its entirety, and that have the original credits on it?

No the first one ever made. the one on youtube with something like 22,000,000 views.

Not that it matters anyway, as the flash has been flagged already. :D

True true.

Well done guys on finding the stolen flashes, you guys deserve a pat on the back. Unfortunately, because of time zones, I never see these flashes and I am always late to get them. Thats if I even DO get them :(

At 6/17/09 01:05 AM, Sheizenhammer wrote:
D

Congratulations on your whistle! You must have worked hard! Now its my turn! Ha!

Well done anyway.

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At 6/16/09 01:52 PM, Sheizenhammer wrote: I was more thinking about those accounts that get deleted BECAUSE of the flashes they submit (read: chris beer, duck division, some faggot-federation accounts etc.). If those ones re-appear and submit the same flashes they were deleted for, is that a flaggable offense?

In that case, yeah, I'd say such submissions would qualify as abusive. I'd bet my points on it because the admins can back us up in that situation.

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My wireless adapter was busted for a few days, but it's back now, so I'll be able to spend more time in the department again.

What is this? The third time I've made a similar post to this this week.

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Two flashes up at the moment that I believe are abusive.

I suspect this one to be stolen as there is a copyright on it and it is hosted on several other flash sites.

Another DD multiple submission. This is the one with the duck lounging on a raft to Jamaican music.


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At 6/17/09 01:26 PM, mwmike wrote: My wireless adapter was busted for a few days, but it's back now, so I'll be able to spend more time in the department again.

Good to have you back Mike. I'll go as far as to say I've missed you posting around here....You used to be so active and then you suddenly disappeared. Glad you got your internet/adapter working now.

At 6/17/09 04:44 PM, XtremeofParanoia wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/49 9807
Another DD multiple submission. This is the one with the duck lounging on a raft to Jamaican music.

Keep your eye on that one! That will hopefully bring in a lot of abusive reviews, however, may have the chance of stealing an award!

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At 6/17/09 04:44 PM, XtremeofParanoia wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/49 9801
I suspect this one to be stolen as there is a copyright on it and it is hosted on several other flash sites.

Yeah, pretty sure that one's stolen. Annoyingly, it passed (and given the author's other submissions, it'll probably be file-swapped with something crap later).

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/49 9807
Another DD multiple submission. This is the one with the duck lounging on a raft to Jamaican music.

As has been said before, there is nothing wrong with those types of submissions. They're not breaking the terms of use for the portal, and therefore aren't whistle-worthy. Unless they have things like racism, death threats, real porn, or other such things, they are OK. A lazily done, 2-second loop of a duck on a li-lo is not abusive at all (just crappy spam).


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At 6/17/09 05:01 PM, Sheizenhammer wrote:
As has been said before, there is nothing wrong with those types of submissions. They're not breaking the terms of use for the portal, and therefore aren't whistle-worthy. Unless they have things like racism, death threats, real porn, or other such things, they are OK. A lazily done, 2-second loop of a duck on a li-lo is not abusive at all (just crappy spam).

Though, it is a multiple submission. It was put on the Portal several times yesterday, and in fact, got through once, in addition to this most recent attempt.


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At 6/17/09 07:23 PM, XtremeofParanoia wrote:
At 6/17/09 05:01 PM, Sheizenhammer wrote: As has been said before, there is nothing wrong with those types of submissions. They're not breaking the terms of use for the portal, and therefore aren't whistle-worthy. Unless they have things like racism, death threats, real porn, or other such things, they are OK. A lazily done, 2-second loop of a duck on a li-lo is not abusive at all (just crappy spam).
Though, it is a multiple submission. It was put on the Portal several times yesterday, and in fact, got through once, in addition to this most recent attempt.

"Do not re-submit your entry after it has been BLAMMED without making noticeable improvements. It will be flagged!"
If it's exactly the same submission that has already been submitted multiple times before, then it's flaggable.


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At 6/17/09 07:23 PM, XtremeofParanoia wrote: Though, it is a multiple submission. It was put on the Portal several times yesterday, and in fact, got through once, in addition to this most recent attempt.

If you know it to have been submited more than once, make sure you give a link to the original (otherwise it looks like you're just reporting things for being spam). If the link checks out, then there's no problem with that.

If you're right, l'd like to do the same thing for this submission as what I did for that 'holocaust picture' flash a little while ago, but since my NGPD forum account still hasn't been approved, I'm going to have to ask someone else to do that.


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At 6/17/09 05:01 PM, Sheizenhammer wrote:
Yeah, pretty sure that one's stolen. Annoyingly, it passed (and given the author's other submissions, it'll probably be file-swapped with something crap later).

I really think we should be able to whistle shit after it's passed to flag things like file swapping flashes and stolen content. It would probably get abused though, so maybe letting deity whistles be the only ones able to do that might work.

I've been pretty busy, I don't get much time off, and when I do I'm out drinking with the guys. It'll probably this way for another 10 days, but I'll be around.


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At 6/17/09 10:20 PM, SpiffyMasta wrote: I really think we should be able to whistle shit after it's passed to flag things like file swapping flashes and stolen content. It would probably get abused though, so maybe letting deity whistles be the only ones able to do that might work.

A simpler solution would be just to remove the ability for flash authors to edit their flashes. Simply telling the authors that any change, regardless of how minor, would mean the flash has to effectively go through judgement again would practically remove the ability of any file-swapper to abuse the portal like that.

The idea's already in the evolution Mk3 thread, but I've no idea if it'll get listened to or not.
(Probably not, come to think of it. :/ )

I've been pretty busy, I don't get much time off, and when I do I'm out drinking with the guys. It'll probably this way for another 10 days, but I'll be around.

Happy drinking! :P


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I'm going to be gone for a while. Got some issues to resolve and such. I'll need someone to deposit for me while I'm away.


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At 6/17/09 10:44 PM, Sheizenhammer wrote: A simpler solution would be just to remove the ability for flash authors to edit their flashes. Simply telling the authors that any change, regardless of how minor, would mean the flash has to effectively go through judgement again would practically remove the ability of any file-swapper to abuse the portal like that.

You can't do that, because there are so many flashes and games that have bugs and fixes that need to be made that doing that would make it just really hard on them. Imagine a flash with a high vote that has about 1000 votes or more or is on the front page. The guy discovers it has bugs and wants to fix it, he loses all the votes, his score and the frontpage. It's this way already for a good reason.

The idea's already in the evolution Mk3 thread, but I've no idea if it'll get listened to or not.
(Probably not, come to think of it. :/ )

liljim goes through that thread all the time apparently I'm sure all ideas are considered somewhat.

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Hey guys, good to see all the whistle-worthy flashes being caught, good work. Now there's one thing I wanted to let you guys in on: we all know that there's little we can do about spam as such other than voting fairly, reviewing constructively and hoping for the best, and it's frustrating to see those efforts to be in vain as they manage to steal awards on a consistent basis.

Well this week they stole an award from the wrong person. The EGB's own Corky52 had a legit flash in with a fantastic chance of winning Underdog only to see it snatched by a mass alt-reviewing flash that I'm sure you're all aware of. Understandably he was very annoyed, and so he has created this newspost in which to report any ow-scoring submissions, so that surveillance can be carried out on them and any potential mass-reviewing attempts can be reported. I would encourage any of you who see a typical spam submission and are suspicious that an attempt at award-stealing may be made to report it to Corky, who will get in touch with a review mod should the need arise.

Also Tails, with the advent of the Art Portal, will we see some NGPD armory art being submitted, or are they too "classified"? ;P


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At 6/18/09 08:49 AM, RohantheBarbarian wrote: I would encourage any of you who see a typical spam submission and are suspicious that an attempt at award-stealing may be made to report it to Corky, who will get in touch with a review mod should the need arise.

Done! Well, for now at least.

Also Tails, with the advent of the Art Portal, will we see some NGPD armory art being submitted, or are they too "classified"? ;P

Haha, I'd totally forgotten about that! It'd be good if we could have some NGPD pictures uploaded. Propaganda rocks. ;P


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At 6/18/09 08:49 AM, RohantheBarbarian wrote: Understandably he was very annoyed.

It's great to see more action being taken against award stealing, simply taking a personal lookout for them and only sharing them in places like here, where pretty much everyone have already seen it, giving exposure to a newspost about it on a popular user's blog will draw a bit more attention to the problem Flashes. I've worked my way through about half of the list, and haven't found any Flashes that make it very obvious that they're going for the award, but if I do find any I'll write a sincere review and try to raise the awareness of it against the other Flashes that look like they have little chance of being used as a tool for award stealing.

I'd advise every user here to pay a lot of attention to it, especially on Tuesday nights (seeing as the awards are handed out the moment Wednesday starts in EST).

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While depositing, I found a stolen Flash.

from TitAnime.com, one of the most bait Flashes I've seen in a long time.

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At 6/18/09 12:49 PM, mwmike wrote: While depositing, I found a stolen Flash.

Good find Mike.

Replying to your previous comment. I would watch out for the trophies but at the time they are given out, its like 5am here (Well you know yourself) and I don't really review spam after my last "incident."

It is good to see that people are actually doing something about it, even if it is on a personal note. I take my hat off to Corky.

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Just a quick message to say our beloved Art portal has been deleted. :(

Luckily though, I did get some screen-shots while it was up.

Art portal
16-06-09 ~ 18/06/09!

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Got through the Portal but is clearly a hateful flash as its just a flashing picture of a Klansman giving the "heil" sign. I'm sure Wade wouldn't mind hearing about it.


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Attack.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/

State of the Portal is at stake.

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At 6/18/09 07:18 PM, Porkchop wrote: Attack.

FFFFUUUUUUUU--

Jesus, it's still going. And you can bet some of them will try to slip rule-breakers past in all the chaos. Watch out for the abusive spam.


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Duck Divisi0n is using a technique to get their flashes by B/Pers who don't watch the flash by labeling them as school projects and similar things. Don't be fooled, be sure to look at the author and view the flash.


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Just to prove my point, this showed up on the Portal just now.

Not that we can really report it for anything that I can tell, but this is the type of trick they are pulling.


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