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Yes, I do agree with this. Also, I would like to make a future statement. You have to admit, spam clubs do help us. I mean, sure, they're annoying as f*ck, but if it wasn't for them what would be our puropose? How would we have power. think about THAT next time your trying to eradicate all spam clubs. Also, look at all the traffic it brings to the club. So, don't automatically hate them. think a little first.

At 3/13/09 08:14 PM, sinskae wrote:

At 3/13/09 07:36 PM, Elder500 wrote: They're alright. Better than any other spam group, except possibly the LL.

The way i vote, idc which group it is, if they throw letter in front of there titles ([OO], [LL] ect.) I immediately vote zero, regardless of content. I don't put up with these spam groups, good flash or not.

This is where my years of teaching NG'ers about voting with fairness and integrity has gotten me. This makes me want to (insert self destructive verb) myself.

At 3/13/09 08:14 PM, sinskae wrote:

At 3/13/09 07:36 PM, Elder500 wrote: They're alright. Better than any other spam group, except possibly the LL.

The way i vote, idc which group it is, if they throw letter in front of there titles ([OO], [LL] ect.) I immediately vote zero, regardless of content. I don't put up with these spam groups, good flash or not.

Then let me comment on how that is not the way to protect Newgrounds from spam. You're basically recklessly voting 0 on any flash with a flash group tag. I know i can't tell you how to vote but i hope that what i say will make you change your way of voting.

Some flash groups have made wonderful flash movies/games. Others have made spam. It doesn't matter if a spam group submits a flash, it is your job to watch that flash from beginning to end or at least that's how i see the ideal Newgrounds flash voter. Some of the KK have made good flash movies believe it or not but if you don't watch them then you just become a reckless voter. Take Yoshi77777, he spammed the portal for months and one day he decided to it's time to mature and start making good quality flash movies/games. Well... guess what, the majority of the people saw him as being a piece of garbage because of the amount of times he spammed newgrounds but i think he should still be given the opportunity to make good flash as well as have a 2nd chance and be voted on fairly. Now the majority of the newgrounds users have accepted the fact that Yoshi77777 is no longer a spammer. So... to summarize, you should stop the way you're voting. It's basically just saying that once you're a spammer you're always a spammer and that you should never be allowed to submit good quality flash and be given a 2nd chance.

At 3/13/09 08:29 PM, TailsPrower wrote:

At 3/13/09 08:14 PM, sinskae wrote:

At 3/13/09 07:36 PM, Elder500 wrote: They're alright. Better than any other spam group, except possibly the LL.

The way i vote, idc which group it is, if they throw letter in front of there titles ([OO], [LL] ect.) I immediately vote zero, regardless of content. I don't put up with these spam groups, good flash or not.

This is where my years of teaching NG'ers about voting with fairness and integrity has gotten me. This makes me want to (insert self destructive verb) myself.

Ah, i was writing while this post of Tails was being posted...
So... yeah my post was basically better explained than Tails xP

Ok, so let me just sum up the last...I dont know, 5 pages or so, just to make sure im on the right track.

We've spitballed and brainstormed a Spongebob-esque NGPD training video with a majority of the nuances of the video from Spongebob (furthermore abbreviated as SB) and not only failed to reach any general consensus, dropped the idea until someone decides to revive it.

We've bashed me, Neonflame, and a couple other users for our abrasive, if not honest, method of dealing with NGPD noobs, and our general attitudes, which, in all fairness, is abrasive and ridiculing.

We've again run over a proper method of voting on spam flashes because people have their own methods of dealing with crew flashes. I mean, seriously. What makes one method of voting the best. It's certainly fair, but spamming the shit out of the portal isnt exactly fair to the people trying to get in...

And, We've come to this post, where I, by my own nature, bash pretty much everything and everyone's shortcomings. In the light of night and my own tiredness, im gonna refrain and just point out that :
1. If we're commited to something, we should do it, with pretty decent fluidity between the "cogs"
and keep the informed informed
2. People are people. If they were the way we wanted them to be, how would that work out in the
grand scheme of things? Get over it and ignore them if you absolutely cant stand them.
3. Fairness exists when one side is nearly equal to the other side. In this case, the Spam Crews and
the people that actually want spam out. They outnumber us just because of the one hugely missed
fact that we've deluded ourselfs in thinking that the spam is stoppable. It's not, and no amount of
Rallying will solve anything. Every man for himself.

Enjoy my two cents, cause god knows that someones gonna think im ripping on them, or their methods, or some aspect of personality not covered.

Well, Crusher, I do agree with most of that post. However, we did not drop the flash idea. We have moved it to the nGPD site (Link on Tails' post) so that we aren't uselessly wasting pagining, thereby pissing off mods. So, the rest is right on. But if you wanna be involved, I have organized the whole collab a little more, just ccheck Tails's link, m'kay

And don't worry about the "abrasive" atitude. What doesn't hurt us can' hurt them XD

At 3/13/09 11:35 PM, Ninja-Without-Sight wrote: Well, Crusher, I do agree with most of that post. However, we did not drop the flash idea. We have moved it to the nGPD site (Link on Tails' post) so that we aren't uselessly wasting pagining, thereby pissing off mods. So, the rest is right on. But if you wanna be involved, I have organized the whole collab a little more, just ccheck Tails's link, m'kay

And don't worry about the "abrasive" atitude. What doesn't hurt us can' hurt them XD

Are you sure? I've pretty much hunted that site like crazy and I didnt see much of anything relating to a "Welcome to the NGPD, now Dont fuck up" vid...
Well, argument notwithstanding, most of my points still stand.
And speaking of points, did anybody see

Fear Unlimited Issue2, by Dizimz Type: Game Rating: Ages 17+

It's got achievements too, but the game is pretty sloppy. Im willing to bet when Krev sees this post, she's gonna squeal at the chance to statwhore some more. I tried to get even a basic achievement, but the nuances of the game itself is pretty bad, in terms of movement and whatnot.

Ftr, I know this belongs in a review, but it's not like we're playing the games for fun anymore, are we?

What's with all this bickering?

Seriously, I think we all need to look at what our purpose is. The NGPD should be educating NG at large about good voting and whistling. Just arguing here shows how illegitimate this club is. It's time to move away from being a collection of stat whores, and start moving towards a something bigger.

It has been brought up that none of us alone has the Flash expertise, or the general skill to make an NGPD worthy flash movie, but I think that if we all work on it, we can make it happen. We could even find an animator who is good to help us out with the details and harder aspects of the movie.

I might not be the oldest, or most respected, or most recently active member in this club, but I do know how these things work, and I know what we need to do to make this happen. I've started talks about making a movie before, and I can clearly see where it went wrong in the past and as they say in France: Third time's the charm.

At 3/14/09 12:57 AM, Fremen wrote: What's with all this bickering?

Seriously, I think we all need to look at what our purpose is. The NGPD should be educating NG at large about good voting and whistling. Just arguing here shows how illegitimate this club is. It's time to move away from being a collection of stat whores, and start moving towards a something bigger.

It has been brought up that none of us alone has the Flash expertise, or the general skill to make an NGPD worthy flash movie, but I think that if we all work on it, we can make it happen. We could even find an animator who is good to help us out with the details and harder aspects of the movie.

I might not be the oldest, or most respected, or most recently active member in this club, but I do know how these things work, and I know what we need to do to make this happen. I've started talks about making a movie before, and I can clearly see where it went wrong in the past and as they say in France: Third time's the charm.

Good point. I think the first thing we need to do is educate people about how to whistle correctly. I got on here tonight, and noticed that our favorite Chris Beer decided to resubmit his IntPorn 1 and 2 after they were taken off, or blammed or whatever, without modifying it, and announcing that they were blammed and resubmitted as is. Obviously not enough people know that that is a flaggable offense, and the thing went through again. I'm sure it doesn't take that many people to stop a flash in its tracks with some whitsles?

As for fairness in voting, you vote however you want, that's what the portal is for. No one knows the best way to do certain things, just like in a regular democracy. Yea some people are idiots and vote like idiots, but you can't go out there and try to tell people what to do or even try to teach them how to do it the right way, cause they're mostly idiots and won't get it! So you get groups of guys like us, and don't get me wrong, I haven't been officially accepted into the group as of yet, that make it a point to "Police" the portal... I mean isn't that what we're all about..

Hey everybody! Um, if you heard my song before, my friend and I updated it. Just in case you guys care, another shameless self-promotion.

Testing The Headset Montage, by Phobotech Type: SongGenre: General Rock

What can I say? I'm bored.

Well this is like the only time i have been around here and posting today. Cause really yesterday did not really have time to really do much of anything.

Wow seems like we are bickering a lot. I think that soem peopel in this force need to take a 50mg chill pill and just calm down.

I have read through the posts on this page and i can agree with most of them. Although we can not change how people vote, we can change there attitude towards voting.

So what if none of us have any flash knowledge, doesn't mean we don't want to learn. Besides if we learn now it could come in handy later one when we want to submit our own flashes.

So come on guys stop bickering. Lets all get along nicely!

look, it's not like i vote zero on every crew tag; i vote mainly on the ones i know are spam. If I see a new tag, i'll watch it, but if it's spam, then I vote accordingly

and I'm not saying that once your a spammer your always a spammer, but look at the KK: how many flashes have they come out with that you would say they weren't spam? As long as those retards "collaborate" together on a flash, that flash will be spam. That's just all i've seen in my year here.

And no, I'm not going to change my voting habit; I vote according to how i feel about a flash. I'm not going to waste my time on spam groups though.

*yawns*

Morning dudes, whats up?

At 3/14/09 11:43 AM, Crusher117 wrote: *yawns*

Morning dudes, whats up?

>:(. Me. At 5:00 in the morning. For Sports. on a Saturday. really Pissed. Need Sleep. NOW!
Buh-bye.

At 3/14/09 11:31 AM, sinskae wrote: look, it's not like i vote zero on every crew tag; i vote mainly on the ones i know are spam. If I see a new tag, i'll watch it, but if it's spam, then I vote accordingly

So if the KK were to submit a flash that's actually good, you wouldn't know that it's good because you'd just vote 0 on it because they're known for spam. That's the plain message I'm getting from you.

and I'm not saying that once your a spammer your always a spammer, but look at the KK: how many flashes have they come out with that you would say they weren't spam? As long as those retards "collaborate" together on a flash, that flash will be spam. That's just all i've seen in my year here.

It doesn't matter how many flash movies/games they submit. 1 of them might be good and they might have actually put effort into but you would just vote 0 without even watching it. That to me is a reckless voter.

And no, I'm not going to change my voting habit; I vote according to how i feel about a flash. I'm not going to waste my time on spam groups though.

So then you agree that you're a reckless voter? If you're not going to watch the flash, DON'T VOTE ON IT, simple as that. You don't like spam groups, DON'T WATCH THEIR FLASH MOVIES/GAMES AND VOTE ON IT.

Simple as that. I think my point is well-made and clear.

At 3/14/09 11:31 AM, sinskae wrote: And no, I'm not going to change my voting habit; I vote according to how i feel about a flash. I'm not going to waste my time on spam groups though.

OK and that's good for you. I never said voting habit anyway, I said your attitude towards voting. If you don't want to change it then that's fine.

Also some spam groups are pretty funny. Like the FF for example, there preloader/beginning movie, I find hilarious! Some of there animations are very very funny, so I vote 3+ because they deserve to be submitted.
I just don't judge a book by it's cover!

At 3/14/09 11:59 AM, DarkSoldier wrote: So then you agree that you're a reckless voter? If you're not going to watch the flash, DON'T VOTE ON IT, simple as that. You don't like spam groups, DON'T WATCH THEIR FLASH MOVIES/GAMES AND VOTE ON IT.

Simple as that. I think my point is well-made and clear.

pssh, I'm going to vote, whether I watch it or not. the KK or any of these spam groups, in my opinion, have not come out with anything worthy of passing

So I am voting how i feel. isn't that what we're supposed to do? How does that make me reckless?

At 3/14/09 08:19 AM, Lizzardis wrote: a 50mg chill pill

I have some! :D

At 3/14/09 11:43 AM, Crusher117 wrote: *yawns*
Morning dudes, whats up?

*Points to puppy on couch with me.* It's cold outside, I brought the small breed inside, he's so cute. He sleeps on me. :3

At 3/14/09 11:51 AM, Ninja-Without-Sight wrote: Need Sleep. NOW!
Buh-bye.

So that would make you the Ninja Without Sleep? Ha. Haha.

Made myself laugh, that's all that matters. xD I just woke up, so.. yeah. I have no honest opinion on the bickering, I'd be more surprised to not see it.
And as for rotoscoping, I do it not just with Flash alone, but I bring in Photoshop, After Effects, whatever in the Master Collection that I can click on, I'll use it.
For example, remember Through A Scanner Darkly? Can do that.
This?

-Because I can-, by TheMillz Type: Movie Rating: Everyone

Trying to do that. xD It comes out looking.. um. Visible.. working on understanding how frame-rate and all that junk works and what effects what.. and.. stuff.

Guys, just reminding you, check the site Tails' made for the Flash. If you don't have an account, make one and PM tails your name so he can give you access to the forums. That is where everything via the Flash collab shall go.

That looks great. I think I'll try to join but i need like 200 more b/P points + 50 posts.
So I guess this will be #1. 1/50 49 to go!

At 3/14/09 11:31 AM, sinskae wrote: And no, I'm not going to change my voting habit; I vote according to how i feel about a flash. I'm not going to waste my time on spam groups though.

How can you have any feeling towards a flash if you don't even watch it? I strongly disapprove of your stereotyping methods and I expected better from you. If you keep that habit, you're denying the principles of fairness and honestly which I've established for the NGPD. If you reject the NGPD's philosophy, then you don't belong here. That's all I have to say about that.

At 3/14/09 01:17 PM, Ninja-Without-Sight wrote: Guys, just reminding you, check the site Tails' made for the Flash. If you don't have an account, make one and PM tails your name so he can give you access to the forums. That is where everything via the Flash collab shall go.

Ah, see I had created one a week ago, but it no longer exists there. Ergo, my above post.

Thanks for letting me know what I should have done. No one told me I had to PM ahead of time.

NGPD Roster - Saturday, 14th March 2009
Not much to say, really..Anyone watch Comic Relief, or even do anything for Red Nose Day yesterday?

Rank Ups:
KrevZabijak, Police Captain
SlntCobra1, Police Sergeant

Entering the list:
None :(

Leaving the list:
None :)

Top Five Gainers:
1.KrevZabijak - 471
2.Lizzardis - 189
3.SlntCobra1 - 120
4.Insanimation - 93
5.mwmike - 39

Random Article of the Week:
Roman Catholicism in Norway (Who writes this stuff?)

No. ## ] [ Tot. B/P ][ Gain ][ Gain/Day ][ Name, Rank]
>>>01 ][ ][ 2387---- ][ 0021 ][ 3.00 ][ ThePigeonMaster Police Captain
>>>02 ][ ][ 2364---- ][ 0471 ][ 67.3 ][ KrevZabijak Police Captain +5
>>>03 ][ ][ 2292---- ][ 0016 ][ 2.29 ][ eroth221 Police Captain -1
>>>04 ][ ][ 2098---- ][ 0026 ][ 3.71 ][ sinskae Police Captain -1
>>>05 ][ ][ 1991---- ][ 0016 ][ 2.29 ][ Crusher117 Police Lieutenant -1
>>>06 ][ ][ 1979---- ][ 0093 ][ 13.3 ][ Insanimation Police Lieutenant +2
>>>07 ][ ][ 1936---- ][ 0039 ][ 5.57 ][ mwmike Police Lieutenant -1
>>>08 ][ ][ 1920---- ][ 0000 ][ 0.00 ][ Spartan204 Police Lieutenant -3
>>>09 ][ ][ 1816---- ][ 0006 ][ 0.86 ][ Phobotech Police Lieutenant
>>>10 ][ ][ 1737---- ][ 0189 ][ 27.0 ][ Lizzardis Police Lieutenant +2
>>>11 ][ ][ 1690---- ][ 0000 ][ 0.00 ][ MrAngel Police Lieutenant -1
>>>12 ][ ][ 1628---- ][ 0003 ][ 0.60 ][ TailsPrower Police Lieutenant -1
>>>13 ][ ][ 1556---- ][ 0029 ][ 0.43 ][ NeonFlame126 Police Lieutenant
>>>14 ][ ][ 1420---- ][ 0000 ][ 0.00 ][ Gu-rrilla Police Sergeant
>>>15 ][ ][ 1227---- ][ 0000 ][ 0.00 ][ PowerPrower Police Sergeant
>>>16 ][ ][ 1153---- ][ 0025 ][ 3.57 ][ Ninja-Without-Sight Police Sergeant
>>>17 ][ ][ 1046---- ][ 0120 ][ 17.1 ][ SlntCobra1 Police Sergeant
>>>18 ][ ][ 0852---- ][ 0000 ][ 0.00 ][ xthesnarfx Police Officer
>>>19 ][ ][ 0796---- ][ 0000 ][ 0.00 ][ JimmyDimples Police Officer
>>>20 ][ ][ 0623---- ][ 0000 ][ 0.00 ][ TheOriginalReference Police Officer +1
>>>21 ][ ][ 0609---- ][ 0000 ][ 0.00 ][ Lebastic Police Officer +1
>>>22 ][ ][ 0599---- ][ 0000 ][ 0.00 ][ SonicSheep Police Officer +1
>>>23 ][ ][ 0580---- ][ 0000 ][ 0.00 ][ MrCrawford Police Officer +1
>>>24 ][ ][ 0557---- ][ 0000 ][ 0.00 ][ RS200 Police Officer +1
>>>25 ][ ][ 0519---- ][ 0000 ][ 0.00 ][ TheDeathReaperIsBack Police Officer +1
>>>26 ][ ][ 0464---- ][ 0000 ][ 0.00 ][ Dejanus Portal Security +1

Apprentices:
>>>27 ][ ][ 1700---- ][ 0000 ][ 0.00 ][ SpiffyMasta Police Lieutenant

At 3/14/09 01:57 PM, Insanimation wrote: Rank Ups:
KrevZabijak, Police Captain
SlntCobra1, Police Sergeant

Well done on the rank ups! Krev you will be leaving us soon! :(

Top Five Gainers:
1.KrevZabijak - 471
2.Lizzardis - 189
3.SlntCobra1 - 120
4.Insanimation - 93
5.mwmike - 39

Well done you guys! Mike i'm ashamed of you! 39 B/P, come on you can do better! Congratz to Krev for getting the top!

>>>10 ][ ][ 1737---- ][ 0189 ][ 27.0 ][ Lizzardis Police Lieutenant +2

Hey wicked. I'm in the top 10!

Again nice Roster Ins.

Does anyone know when Perfect is coming back? Has anyone heard from him? How is he?

Playing Field 2!, by dr1aron Type: Game Rating: Ages 13+

original entry:

Playing Field 2, by MercuryLime Type: Game Rating: Ages 13+

blow it

Sorry for the double but his other flash entry is stolen

Good job, now it's under Administrative review. Well done!

At 3/14/09 01:35 PM, TailsPrower wrote: How can you have any feeling towards a flash if you don't even watch it? I strongly disapprove of your stereotyping methods and I expected better from you. If you keep that habit, you're denying the principles of fairness and honestly which I've established for the NGPD. If you reject the NGPD's philosophy, then you don't belong here. That's all I have to say about that.

now, hey, i read the comments on it. it's not like i just immediately vote zero. I have a tendency to read the comments, and see what other users think.

At 3/14/09 03:13 PM, sinskae wrote: now, hey, i read the comments on it. it's not like i just immediately vote zero. I have a tendency to read the comments, and see what other users think.

What if the flash is under judgement? As you know all to and well, you can not see reviews when a flash is under judgement. What are you going to do then? Just click 0?