Why are pedophiles...

[FlashCridic1124]

let out of jail?
Sick minded people like that may wind up on the streets and despite getting convicted, whose to say they won't do it again? Well not just them but all sexual pretadors too, why let them out?

[qStik]

At 3/11/08 01:17 PM, simple-but-sandy wrote: I'm all for the eternal oppression of criminals.

As, in my opinion, people never change.

That's a very depressing and sad view on life.

People do change, but pedophiles are not people, so they should be hunted down and killed in most gruesome ways.

Just my two cents...

[SolInvictus]

its interesting how most people are for treating those with mental illnesses even when the individual is violent yet no one even wants to consider treating pedophiles.

[CommanderX1125]

Isn't it?

Anyway, I have to agree with Sol that people are far too hasty in condemning pedophiles as simply perverts and not potentially mentally ill.

Fun fact: Pedophiles are among the most hated both in the prison population and out!

[FlashCridic1124]

well, I don't think our phyciatric studies and treatments have come as far as to treat such illness. And there are the cases such as that one guy who buried that girl alive and they found her in the bag with her finger poking out of the holes....So, you can kinda see where I'm coming from when I don'tthink it's a good idea to let these guys out of jail...

[FUNKbrs]

At 3/11/08 02:06 PM, SolInvictus wrote: its interesting how most people are for treating those with mental illnesses even when the individual is violent yet no one even wants to consider treating pedophiles.

Sh.... don't use your logic here. It only frightens them.

Cause I mean, a dead baby is WAY preferrable to one that's been raped, right? I mean, dead, that's nice and simple, but raped... well, the victim might actually recover from that and lead a full life in spite of their attacker, and that's just wrong.

And if you can't read the sarcasm in that... I give up.

[SolInvictus]

it would seem mental institutions would be a preferable alternative to prisons since prisons have no reliable means of assessing a prisoners likelihood of reofense, especially those with mental illnesses. without violent or behaviour that indicates that rehabilitation has failed a prison cannot keep an individual beyond their sentence whereas a psychiatric facility is focused on that individuals mental health and i would imagine has the power to prolong their stay if they see that rehabilitation is not progressing as expected.

then again i may be putting to much faith in the abilities of mental institutions.

[HairyFreak]

you should never let prisoners free entirly, there should always be a system to know where they are and what they are doing after they have been in jail, like microchiping or something. Then this could also be another threat to people who are going to commit crimes. 3 months for robbery and a life time of non privacy. hahah

[KeithHybrid]

At 3/11/08 01:17 PM, simple-but-sandy wrote: I'm all for the eternal oppression of criminals.

As, in my opinion, people never change.

People can change. One of my best friends use to be quite the violent sumbitch before I met him, but when by the time I met him (when he was a senior in high school), he was a hoot to be around, and I woulda never guessed he used to have a hair-trigger temper.

However, the same cannot be said for most sexual predators, and all pedophiles. Once they strike, their mind will be permanently broken. No amount of jail-time or therapy can ever fix them. It is for thie reason that I believe any crime involving sexual assault upon a child should be punished the pervert being put down.

And that's my two cents.

[CommanderX1125]

At 3/11/08 04:10 PM, KeithHybrid wrote:

At 3/11/08 01:17 PM, simple-but-sandy wrote: I'm all for the eternal oppression of criminals.

As, in my opinion, people never change.

People can change. One of my best friends use to be quite the violent sumbitch before I met him, but when by the time I met him (when he was a senior in high school), he was a hoot to be around, and I woulda never guessed he used to have a hair-trigger temper.

However, the same cannot be said for most sexual predators, and all pedophiles. Once they strike, their mind will be permanently broken. No amount of jail-time or therapy can ever fix them. It is for thie reason that I believe any crime involving sexual assault upon a child should be punished the pervert being put down.

You can't make a sweeping generalization by saying that pedophiles cannot be resocialized through therapy and imprisonment without providing some evidence of it. As for the death penalty, we can barely get that for full fledged murderers who have killed and raped, multiple women, so it is a long stretch to try and apply the death penalty to pedophiles. At least with them, as has already been pointed out, the victim has the chance to live a life whereas a murder ends any possibility of recovery.

Now, as for whoever said the person should lose all privacy after their sentence, they technically do. They are placed on a registered sex offender list, and basically an employer, neighborhood, and police department within the offenders area is made well aware of the person previous crimes. It is quite literally easier to find a job as a murderer, get a house in a good neighborhood, and live out the rest of ones life then if a pedophile attempted the same course of action. This could be why it is more difficult to reintegrate them into society.....

Regardless, I like Sol's idea of locking them in a psychiatric facility as opposed to prison where they can be evaluated and released when the facility deems them no longer a threat to society and themselves.

Anyway, that is basically my rant on the matter, and yes I know it is basically a festival of quotes, but why bother with your own words when someone has already said your piece?

And that's my two cents.

[FlashCridic1124]

At 3/11/08 02:34 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

At 3/11/08 02:06 PM, SolInvictus wrote: its interesting how most people are for treating those with mental illnesses even when the individual is violent yet no one even wants to consider treating pedophiles.

Sh.... don't use your logic here. It only frightens them.

Cause I mean, a dead baby is WAY preferrable to one that's been raped, right? I mean, dead, that's nice and simple, but raped... well, the victim might actually recover from that and lead a full life in spite of their attacker, and that's just wrong.

I'm suprised no one mentioned long term mental afects that the victim may suffer if they remain alive yet.....

[SolInvictus]

At 3/11/08 04:49 PM, FlashCridic1124 wrote: I'm suprised no one mentioned long term mental afects that the victim may suffer if they remain alive yet.....

its not in detail but Funk did bring it up "Cause I mean, a dead baby is WAY preferrable to one that's been raped, right? I mean, dead, that's nice and simple, but raped... well, the victim might actually recover from that and lead a full life in spite of their attacker, and that's just wrong".

[FUNKbrs]

At 3/11/08 05:25 PM, SolInvictus wrote: its not in detail but Funk did bring it up "Cause I mean, a dead baby is WAY preferrable to one that's been raped, right? I mean, dead, that's nice and simple, but raped... well, the victim might actually recover from that and lead a full life in spite of their attacker, and that's just wrong".

SHh.... their tiny brains can't comprehend that a sentence can use sarcasm to express a simple visceral truth.

[SmilezRoyale]

What, exactly, makes pedophilia different from other sexual orientations?

I mean... in a few years kinder gardeners will be having sex so...

[KeithHybrid]

At 3/11/08 09:45 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: What, exactly, makes pedophilia different from other sexual orientations?

I mean... in a few years kinder gardeners will be having sex so...

...not even the Grinch would touch this with a ten-foot pole.

[FlashCridic1124]

At 3/11/08 09:45 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: What, exactly, makes pedophilia different from other sexual orientations?

I mean... in a few years kinder gardeners will be having sex so...

Umm, you're normally supposed to be attracted to your own age, and wtf does that have to do with this, yeah a few years, but pedos are attracted to them as they are now and thats fucking messed up..ya see where I'm going with this? Ok good. Considering little kids are naive, physically, and mentally underdeveloped, so to be attracted to that is basically a mental disorder with no cure.

[Lindione]

I like the idea of putting them in institutions but I doubt we could afford it. They would fool that system as well. The reason they are letting them out is because there aren't enough jails or there are too many prisoners.

Heres an idea, we put them all in secluded settlements in Nevada.

[SmilezRoyale]

At 3/12/08 03:47 PM, FlashCridic1124 wrote:

At 3/11/08 09:45 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: What, exactly, makes pedophilia different from other sexual orientations?

I mean... in a few years kinder gardeners will be having sex so...

Umm, you're normally supposed to be attracted to your own age, and wtf does that have to do with this, yeah a few years, but pedos are attracted to them as they are now and thats fucking messed up..ya see where I'm going with this? Ok good. Considering little kids are naive, physically, and mentally underdeveloped, so to be attracted to that is basically a mental disorder with no cure.

And normal people are supposed to be attracted to the opposite sex

sorry, but it's true, if it wasn't normal we would have gone extinct a very long time ago.

And the 'it's just wrong' argument doesn't work.

You know, some of you may as well ease into this, because pedophilia is going to become legal in a few years.

[FlashCridic1124]

The thing is, years ago, people didn't live as long, and now we usually make it to 80 or so. The thing about this is that I'm now wondering if your taking about teenagers however, because then I would have gotten what you meant. I mean, considering my 22 year old brother did go with this 17 year old chick once so....but My main argument is for like little kids and stuff. For teenagers that's a little weird still but chances are that it was there choice, for little kids it's usually rape or something. And no it won't be legal in years to come people humans life span has increased. I'm also now wondering if your defending pedos o something too....

[SmilezRoyale]

I'm not defending pedo's, i am questioning the logic that there are 'good' sexual orientations and 'bad' ones.

But if me stating that i am defending pedo's will get you to answer the question using logic and not emotion, then i'll 'admit' to defending them.

[FlashCridic1124]

Oh...well in that case, I guess on a logical standpoint you can be right, although it is in human nature to adapt and be attracted to those out own age. Technically speaking though, it is also supposedly natural that one will be attracted to the opposite sex, yet people will not ridicule homosexuals in the same state.
This is because it is the way they had been born and had developed through life as so, yet are interested in generally peers. But if one is to be attracted to the opposite sex, logically a homosexual could be considered to have a mental disorder perhaps? Yes, logically speaking your right, there is no 'bad' sexual orientation. This applies to logic though, the logic in which people will cease to use as such things like this are frowned upon in society and thought vile and evil.
Although, there is a difference in a logic and that is that one who molests children will cause mental damage a lot of the time and is attracted to one which they could easily manipulate and mentally should have gotten over that type of urge after there years at that age.
Now, pedophilia can be expressed hetero or homosexually, so technically one who is male and attracted to boys is a homosexual, yet still is attracted to the premature state of human life, something that genetically should have been a passed phase in life.

[morefngdbs]

Pedo's... if they are a repeat offender, I believe castration ( chemical castration will do) is the only way they should then be released, after serving their sentence out 100% of course.

The other good option ( in my view of it... but I'm jaded I have 2 daughters) is clamp their dick in a vice that they can't open, give them a dull knife & then set the damn place on fire, but leave the door unlocked.

Then the choice for what comes next is totally up to them.

[Professor-D-Weed]

I believe in second chances...... but those guys are just a bunch of sick fucks.

[KardedKattle]

Well not to mention the fact that pedophilia is a very easy crime to fake, especially in divorce cases, I believe there was a woman who bribed her daughter with a pony to say that her father raped her.

[SmilezRoyale]

What if we get kids to be more accepting of sexual intercourse?

Is it ok then?

[I know it's crazy, but deal with it, my questions have purpose. ]

[Christopherr]

At 3/11/08 03:13 PM, SolInvictus wrote: it would seem mental institutions would be a preferable alternative to prisons since prisons have no reliable means of assessing a prisoners likelihood of reofense, especially those with mental illnesses. without violent or behaviour that indicates that rehabilitation has failed a prison cannot keep an individual beyond their sentence whereas a psychiatric facility is focused on that individuals mental health and i would imagine has the power to prolong their stay if they see that rehabilitation is not progressing as expected.

Recent laws have made it very hard to commit someone to an asylum. It used to be that if someone had an obvious case of the crazies, it was a simple matter to send them to the crazy home, where they'd be treated better than in a prison, but never released.

Now they get sent off somewhere, and they come back the same. People never change, especially child molesters.

[Cuppa-LettuceNog]

What you just said applies to every single crime, ever.

[TheBlackDahliaMurder]

At 3/12/08 05:25 PM, morefngdbs wrote: Pedo's... if they are a repeat offender, I believe castration ( chemical castration will do) is the only way they should then be released, after serving their sentence out 100% of course.

Castration will do nothing to curb sexual desire, just their ability to get erect. And still, they can use blunt, or even sharp for that matter, objects in place of a penis.

Also, Chris Hansen.

[Sajberhippien]

Paedophilia isn't a crime. It's a mental illness and studies show that as much as 1% may have it. It's not a crime, it's a sexual attraction.

Child rape is a crime, though.

In the same way that homosexuality isn't a crime, but a man raping another man is.

[ThePretenders]

Did you hear about the group of Daily Mail readers who called for a boycott of Adobe software products?

Because Abobe created .pdf files.

Funny joke.