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Shit, I always do this. I forget to add something to my post, then I gotta make a second one. Although religion is a great thing to have, It recently (in America anyways) has been affecting politics. Our current president is Christian (Baptist I think) and thusly many laws have been denied.
1. Gay Marriage
2. Stem Cells
3. And Bam Ba Lam Le Abortions
well I think I got it all down this time By the way, Please don't turn this ATHEIST BLOG, into somethin' about abortions, my brain just can't handle that right now.

At 3/9/08 06:15 PM, kamil-fucker wrote: In fact, I know more religious people that commit crimes than atheist people i know.
So you're talking bullshit.

And you know EXACTLY THE SAME NUMBER OF THEISTS AND ATHEISTS?

Otherwise, you need to use percentages. Just saying.

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At 3/11/08 04:44 PM, lapis wrote:

At 3/11/08 02:48 PM, therealsylvos wrote: No. Thats what I though until I looked in rashi. To the orthodox it is incomprehensible to learn torah without Rashi. The alef is superflous. the word is similiar to
Isaiah 13:10"yud-hay-lamed-vuv"

Lol, that just destroyed a lot of the already rather little esteem I had for my intuition regarding Biblical Hebrew. I guess a little more prudence is warranted in the future.

Don't let it, that was my first instict also, however that means tent, and I couldn't make it fit with this usage, so I looked at Rashi and he pointed me in the right direction :) there is no way I'd have been able to pull that Isiai verse out of my ass like that by myself.

But is the Hebrew that you pick modern day Israeli, or old testament?

(one of the Hebrew students was an Assyrian Christian who had modern Aramaic as his mother tongue).

That is freakin cool. Do you have any idea how it relates to the aramaic of the Talmud?

One of the presentations was about how Paul being a follower of the school of Shammai could have influenced bits of his letters in the New Testament.

Really? thats intresting. I know almost nothing about Paul, but I do know that in all the arguments between the School of Shammai and the School of Hillel, Shammai is virtually always the stricter one. hm, not what I'd expect from Christianity.

Not too many of the Hebrew students seemed to care about the Biblical Hebrew though, most were part Israeli and chose a contemporary political subject or a religious subject for which they mostly seemed to rely on relatively modern sources.

Ya, from my experience's with secular Israeli's I know that they aren't too intrested in the Bible.

This is so stupid. I have a group of friends who are Athiest and Christian, and we just decide not to talk about religion because nothing good comes of it. One person believes one thing and other person another, but nothings going to change by calling each other idiots and people praising themselves for their own beliefs. Stop arguing about something that's not going to change and leave it alone. This isn't getting anywhere ._. No one in this thread is an asshole because of their religion, or lack thereof, and no one is a worse person because of those things.

Personally, I'm not atheist, but everyone is titled to their own beliefs. As long as you don't wanna take over the US and turn us from a Democracy to a Theocracy, or blow up the world, or eat babies, or whatever other taboo cultures do....(better finish before you begin to rant Dick Weed).... I'm fine w/ whatever you believe in. :-)

the thing is i think it was preety stupid for someone to create this topic, the reason people become atheist is becuase they see the logic behind it and simply cant turn back to religion, belive me ive treid to become a chistian again however i was unsuccesfull, now i have to deal with the fact that when i die im gone for ever .

damn atheisim!!!! why couldnt i just live in iggnorant bliss >:(

At 3/12/08 12:50 AM, thedo12 wrote: damn atheisim!!!! why couldnt i just live in iggnorant bliss >:(

One could view Religion as the matrix and atheism as the real world.

At 3/12/08 01:45 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:
One could view Religion as the matrix and atheism as the real world.

Whoa.

At 3/12/08 12:50 AM, thedo12 wrote: the thing is i think it was preety stupid for someone to create this topic, the reason people become atheist is becuase they see the logic behind it and simply cant turn back to religion, belive me ive treid to become a chistian again however i was unsuccesfull, now i have to deal with the fact that when i die im gone for ever .

damn atheisim!!!! why couldnt i just live in iggnorant bliss >:(

You would equally end up in nothingness even if you were a Christian still. Now at least your estimates for time remaining isn't waaaay wrong, letting you plan what you want to do better. ^^

At 3/7/08 09:58 PM, johnfn wrote: Christians live in a state of "Well, if I don't do everything I want to in life, there's always heaven". Not only is this self delusional, it's actually detrimental. At the end of their life, they will have put off and missed out on things that might have been important or just interesting to see. Atheists view every day as their last, as they understand that they only have one life and better freaking well make the best of it.

Atheists aren't atheistic because they think there will "be no punishment". First of all, they know they will have no repercussions for their actions, but that doesn't mean they go around and rape people. Atheists are atheists because they have understood that there is no God up there dictating the world, creating the rich and poor, creating cancer, causing wars... it just doesn't make any sense. If people didn't want repercussions for their actions, they would have chosen ignorance.

I have to agree, I'm an Atheist and I just believe that if I enjoy every moment of my life, why the hell should I even have to FEAR punishment?
I hate people which go "oh, a war started, god made this happen"
Please explain to me why 'God" is so powerful and great that he created the world and got pissed off and drowned EVERYONE when his OWN CREATIONS began to go nuts.

Also explain to me why he created the Garden of Even, then put a stupid snake in there with a stupid magic tree where you aren't allowed to "eat the apples"
WHAT THE HELL? I'll eat whatever I god-damn want, apples are delicious!!
Then, Eve ate the apples first...then she PERSUADED Adam to eat them...why didn't God see this coming?

Anyway...that was rather therapeutic :D

At 3/12/08 01:45 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 3/12/08 12:50 AM, thedo12 wrote: damn atheisim!!!! why couldnt i just live in iggnorant bliss >:(

One could view Religion as the matrix and atheism as the real world.

Dont say that theists might start jumping off buildings.

One could view Religion as the matrix and atheism as the real world.

makes sence, although im stll pissed off about the haveing to deal with death thing

At 3/12/08 11:01 AM, thedo12 wrote:

One could view Religion as the matrix and atheism as the real world.

makes sence, although im stll pissed off about the haveing to deal with death thing

Think what bummer it would be if you used this life as nothing but a test for the afterlife, missing out on a lot of great things, only to get nothing when you die?

At 3/11/08 07:16 PM, therealsylvos wrote: That is freakin cool. Do you have any idea how it relates to the aramaic of the Talmud?

No, he mostly focused on different dialects in the region where Assyrians still live and how the pronunciation of certain letters varied between them. But I think Hebrew students can take courses in traditional Aramaic, either compulsory or voluntarily, I'm not sure.

Really? thats intresting. I know almost nothing about Paul, but I do know that in all the arguments between the School of Shammai and the School of Hillel, Shammai is virtually always the stricter one. hm, not what I'd expect from Christianity.

Yeah, but I think it was just a theory and not something that is universally accepted among scholars. If I remember correctly, most of the Shammaite influence in the letters that he wrote after he had converted to Christianity was apparently in his views on the afterlife, his views on circumcision for example were very different.

Think what bummer it would be if you used this life as nothing but a test for the afterlife, missing out on a lot of great things, only to get nothing when you die?

yes i agree , although i do not completly rule out the possibility of an god just that as of now the evidence points towards their not being one.

At 3/12/08 01:26 PM, Drakim wrote: Think what bummer it would be if you used this life as nothing but a test for the afterlife, missing out on a lot of great things, only to get nothing when you die?

at least you wouldn't be aware of it. though a lack of an afterlife of any kind does kind of suck. though living forever probably wouldn't be anywhere near as awesome as everyone thinks.

I feel as though being an Atheist is in full taking responsibilities for one's life. There is no greater deity that can be blamed for the hardships, no one looking over shoulders, and this life is lived in accordance to one's own desires and needs.

At 3/12/08 04:22 AM, Belias wrote:

At 3/7/08 09:58 PM, johnfn wrote: Christians live in a state of "Well, if I don't do everything I want to in life, there's always heaven". Not only is this self delusional, it's actually detrimental. At the end of their life, they will have put off and missed out on things that might have been important or just interesting to see. Atheists view every day as their last, as they understand that they only have one life and better freaking well make the best of it.

Atheists aren't atheistic because they think there will "be no punishment". First of all, they know they will have no repercussions for their actions, but that doesn't mean they go around and rape people. Atheists are atheists because they have understood that there is no God up there dictating the world, creating the rich and poor, creating cancer, causing wars... it just doesn't make any sense. If people didn't want repercussions for their actions, they would have chosen ignorance.

I have to agree, I'm an Atheist and I just believe that if I enjoy every moment of my life, why the hell should I even have to FEAR punishment?
I hate people which go "oh, a war started, god made this happen"
Please explain to me why 'God" is so powerful and great that he created the world and got pissed off and drowned EVERYONE when his OWN CREATIONS began to go nuts.

Also explain to me why he created the Garden of Even, then put a stupid snake in there with a stupid magic tree where you aren't allowed to "eat the apples"
WHAT THE HELL? I'll eat whatever I god-damn want, apples are delicious!!
Then, Eve ate the apples first...then she PERSUADED Adam to eat them...why didn't God see this coming?

Anyway...that was rather therapeutic :D

Well, actually, the Papacy acknowledges some of the Book of Genesis (creation, Noah's Ark, etc.) to be total BS. We believe it explains why we're here, not the how we came to be. Religion is seeking the answer to the question "Why?" not "How?" If one is incapable of exhibiting blind faith, then religion is not meant for said person

At 3/12/08 06:09 PM, Professor-D-Weed wrote: Religion is seeking the answer to the question "Why?" not "How?"

Mind helping me out with this thread?

At 3/7/08 09:34 PM, KennyD wrote: Is being athiest a way of not being responsible for your actions? I mean being a christian myself, what we belive in basically boils down to if you live a responsible, honest life, you will be rewarded with Heaven the place of eternal bliss, if not then you are punished in Hell, the eternal place of agony. However being athiest, there is no consequences for your actions on earth. No matter how good or bad you are, once you die, thats it.

I'm an atheist and I'm held responsible for my actions by friends, family, laws etc. I have been brought up with a morals and ethics that have been passed down by my family that I hold myself responsible for. Religious people are held responsible the same way and some this is taught through religion as well.

With an atheist it's more about society and law, so if it is socially and legally acceptable to rape or murder than an atheist will probably do it. These things can change all the time and are different from place to place so it's safe to say that an atheist can always change as well and have different views.

I'm not trying to start a christian vs. athiest hate-fest, I'm just wanting to know if this is in fact, one of the reasons for being an athiest?

No war from me most of my family is religious and I respect that and value some of what religion teaches. It's not the reason I'm an atheist, the reason I'm an atheist is simply that I don't believe in god.

So, what you're saying is, unless people are bribed or threatened, they won't do the right thing?

That hardly seems moral to me.

At 3/12/08 06:09 PM, Professor-D-Weed wrote: Religion is seeking the answer to the question "Why?" not "How?" If one is incapable of exhibiting blind faith, then religion is not meant for said person

I don't agree at all. Religion is very much trying to answer "How?". Just look at Creationism, Intelligent Design, and the big opposion to the theory of evolution within those who are religious.

If religion is to answer "Why?" and science "How?", then how come religion reacts so mcuh when science does give out an answer?

At 3/12/08 04:22 AM, Belias wrote: I have to agree, I'm an Atheist and I just believe that if I enjoy every moment of my life, why the hell should I even have to FEAR punishment?
I hate people which go "oh, a war started, god made this happen"
Please explain to me why 'God" is so powerful and great that he created the world and got pissed off and drowned EVERYONE when his OWN CREATIONS began to go nuts.

Also explain to me why he created the Garden of Even, then put a stupid snake in there with a stupid magic tree where you aren't allowed to "eat the apples"
WHAT THE HELL? I'll eat whatever I god-damn want, apples are delicious!!
Then, Eve ate the apples first...then she PERSUADED Adam to eat them...why didn't God see this coming?

Anyway...that was rather therapeutic

:DAt 3/12/08 12:50 AM, thedo12 wrote:

the thing is i think it was preety stupid for someone to create this topic, the reason people become atheist is becuase they see the logic behind it and simply cant turn back to religion, belive me ive treid to become a chistian again however i was unsuccesfull, now i have to deal with the fact that when i die im gone for ever .

damn atheisim!!!! why couldnt i just live in iggnorant bliss >:(

Wow. I don't mean to be hatin' but god damn atheism is bringing a wagon full of bull shit. I have noting wrong with atheism its just. When I hear the reasons for atheism I get ticked de los off. "Those Stories could never happen its omg Bull Crap" "How could all that happen? a snake apple Please . . ." "Oh yea well why did god make hurricanes"
All these and more. Sure not every story out of the bible is true, but thats not its point. Its point was to set guidelines through entertaining stories. To give people a little hope, ya know? I don't know why bad stuff happens and know one knows if it is god that caused it. Blaming everything that happens (Good or bad) is another thing that needs to stop. But having nothing at all to believe in, that aint right, wheres the point then? sorry for my thread hope i didn't ruin your blog

NO. You fucked this whole blog up. Go away.

At any rate, Its not the stories that matter, its the idea that people can put so much belief in works of fiction and think they're REAL. Honestly, I have to say Grow the hell up and embrace reality. There couldn't possibly be a god, and even if there was, wouldn't he be a superhero trying to save us all and make us live in peace? No, because, according to christian scriptures, god is a jealous one. Now wait a second. Theres only one god in islam, too. So, does that mean there's 2 heavens? 2 hells? 2 purgatories? What about all the other religions? You're saying theres one god, and everyone else who isn't a christian might say that too. So, to hell with your opinion. <3

At 3/13/08 07:31 AM, Drakim wrote:

At 3/12/08 06:09 PM, Professor-D-Weed wrote: Religion is seeking the answer to the question "Why?" not "How?" If one is incapable of exhibiting blind faith, then religion is not meant for said person

I don't agree at all. Religion is very much trying to answer "How?". Just look at Creationism, Intelligent Design, and the big opposion to the theory of evolution within those who are religious.

If religion is to answer "Why?" and science "How?", then how come religion reacts so mcuh when science does give out an answer?

Well if you read the rest of my post you'd see the answer to your question. The idea of creationism mainly comes from Lutherans and Protestants because they believe the Bible should be taken literally. When I said that quote, I was speaking mainly for the Roman Catholics (I had mentioned the Papacy.)

Lutherans nor Protestants believe the Papacy nor the Pope has authority in their practices.

At 3/12/08 06:09 PM, Professor-D-Weed wrote: Religion is seeking the answer to the question "Why?" not "How?"

Do you not think pursuits like philosophy, sociology, politics, all the humanities, as well as science, might be a better way of looking for 'why' than old mythology? Like, we're all seeking 'why' too, it's just filling that void with 'God' is a stretch, let alone 'Catholicism'. Surely some of the deeper answers will be found in study of the human race, and not the Bible.

Like, I really think organised religion is a hindrance to coming to any of these greater understandings. Everyone respects someone who is searching for enlightenment and The Answer - we all are - but there are some avenues of thought that are self-evidently dead ends, and should be called out.

At 3/13/08 07:09 PM, GriffinLancer wrote: NO. You fucked this whole blog up. Go away.

At any rate, Its not the stories that matter, its the idea that people can put so much belief in works of fiction and think they're REAL. Honestly, I have to say Grow the hell up and embrace reality. There couldn't possibly be a god, and even if there was, wouldn't he be a superhero trying to save us all and make us live in peace? No, because, according to christian scriptures, god is a jealous one. Now wait a second. Theres only one god in islam, too. So, does that mean there's 2 heavens? 2 hells? 2 purgatories? What about all the other religions? You're saying theres one god, and everyone else who isn't a christian might say that too. So, to hell with your opinion. <3

True ignorance, not a pretty sight. A second religion is simply a second interpreting. Secondly why don't you just disprove god for me, right now. Theres notin' about god being jealous or making us live in pease as a superhero or anything of that matter. Goa fooka jurself

At 3/13/08 07:45 PM, Earfetish wrote:

At 3/12/08 06:09 PM, Professor-D-Weed wrote: Religion is seeking the answer to the question "Why?" not "How?"

Do you not think pursuits like philosophy, sociology, politics, all the humanities, as well as science, might be a better way of looking for 'why' than old mythology? Like, we're all seeking 'why' too, it's just filling that void with 'God' is a stretch, let alone 'Catholicism'. Surely some of the deeper answers will be found in study of the human race, and not the Bible.

Like, I really think organised religion is a hindrance to coming to any of these greater understandings. Everyone respects someone who is searching for enlightenment and The Answer - we all are - but there are some avenues of thought that are self-evidently dead ends, and should be called out.

I never said that Religion was the only way of seeking the answer to why, its just the one I chose ;-)

You or anyone else are entitled to whatever the hell you want to believe and the question "why?" always is and shall be answered in different ways.

All I meant was that science is mainly about how and not why. I used to go to a Catholic School and one of the main Chapters in the Biology class is evolution.

At 3/13/08 08:14 PM, KingsHighway wrote: True ignorance, not a pretty sight. A second religion is simply a second interpreting. Secondly why don't you just disprove god for me, right now.

Why don't you go and disprove the tooth fairy, right now?

What qualities of God do you intend for me to disprove? Ie, what would be a satisfactory answer?

Theres notin' about god being jealous

I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Command ments
There's nothing quite as beautiful as true ignorance.

or making us live in pease as a superhero

I think you're supposed to aspire to be like Jesus.

Man I can't believe you didn't think there was anything about God being a jealous God - I'm an atheist and I knew where to look straight away.

At 3/13/08 08:18 PM, Earfetish wrote:

I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me,

Not that you care, but that is only if they do not reject their parents ways and walk the good path.
just saying.